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Either you watch for free and receive advertising - which the advertisers are paying for and the content person gets their part
You buy “YouTube Red” and pay a monthly fee to go directly to videos without advertising (which I do and it is a great experience!) - again, the content providers get their part of your monthly fee.
YouTube is very dependent on the content providers to help bring in both kinds of revenue. Content providers are dependent on you watching their videos to make money (the number of views determines how much they get).
That may not be a perfect explanation because I am not a content provider - it is just my understanding up to this point.
Adipose cells contain fat… All cells contain water. “Fat is needed for water” doesn’t work. Fat itself contains no water. Logically, if your body is drawing water from cellular reserves it would draw it from all tissues, not just adipose.
So, when you lose fat, where does it go? Most people don’t really know. If you remember the Principle of Mass Conversion from chemistry, you’ll know that matter cannot simply appear or disappear—instead, it goes through chemical conversions and changes states. Just like your car’s engine turns gasoline into heat and exhaust, your body utilizes a similar process.
The mitochondria (cellular energy centers) in your muscle or liver cells pull some of the fat (stored as triglycerides) from within your fat cells and put it through a metabolic process. This converts the fat into heat, carbon dioxide, water, and ATP (adenosine triphosphate). Let’s break those down.
Heat: Heat energy is vitally important for being not-dead. You know how you, being a warm-blooded mammal, keep your body temperature right around 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit pretty much all the time? Yep, it’s by burning calories. When you’re cold, you burn way more calories to keep yourself warm. And in case you’re wondering just how much heat energy is stored within fat, next time you make a pan of bacon, pour the excess fat into a can and put a wick in it. You will be shocked by how long it burns.
ATP: As you may remember from our look at creatine, we need ATP for muscle function. Our primary source of immediate energy is produced when we break a phosphate molecule off the ATP, and it makes a little explosion of available power in your muscles. Then it becomes ADP, and it can’t be used again until it picks up another phosphate molecule. Krebs Cycle, baby. Basically, it carries fuel to your muscles.
Carbon Dioxide: Whenever you burn anything (see heat, above), it gives off carbon dioxide. It’s true with gasoline, and it’s true with body fat. The carbon dioxide will travel through your bloodstream until it returns to your lungs to be exhaled out.
Water: Fat typically feels kinda wet to the touch, right? That’s because there’s some water in it. You’ll pee it out.
So that’s where the weight actually goes when you lose it.
THE utilization by the body of ingested food substances and of tissue reserves yields among other things quantities of metabolic water. As the complete combustion of 100 gm. of fat produces about 110 gm. of metabolic water, whereas 100 gm. of carbohydrate yields only 55 gm. of water, fat reserves and fatty foods are believed to be particularly valuable as a protection against desiccation.
Sure, and fat is more energy-dense than protein & carbs. And yes, when fat is metabolized it will produce some water. But it does not logically follow that when you are dry-fasting, that your body will catabolize ONLY fat. Why wouldn’t it catabolize all tissues it can? It’s been shown that water-fasting is associated with various amounts of lean body mass loss in addition to fat loss. If we’re going to go with this unsourced “3x the power of water fasting” figure then you’d lose 3x the amount of lean body mass as well. Do you know of actual studies showing otherwise?
And do you know of any studies supporting this “3x the power of water fasting” idea, like I asked above?
That fine its your choice to wait for ‘all the science to come out to satisfy you’ there is plenty of science and personal n=1 out there that verifies the validity of dry fasting. By your standards we should wait for ‘all the science to come out before we practice Keto’. I for one am not willing to wait on others when it comes to my health. I trust my research and careful approach to the practicing of my keto and fasting regimen.
Everyone must make their own choices and do their own research it’s out there for anyone willing to take the time to Google it
This thread has given you a few you can use it as a starting place and Google it to do your own research. I have spent hundreds of hours of research on keto and fasting so that I can understand the studies and research and how it applies and can extrapolate one to another. Its clear you don’t trust the research of others so you should do your own research.
See, the title of this thread is “Dry Fasting. Is there any science to this?” You are claiming there is. Is it truly impossible for you to provide even one link to a scientific study? I’m going to conclude, after having asked you directly three times, that it is impossible and you have no solid evidence to back up your claim.
Youtube videos and a link to an article on a site called “Interstellar Blends” lol. Guess what, I watched the video & read the Interstellar site. It had 2 links to studies on dry fasts, neither of which showed ANYTHING about the effectiveness of dry fasts compared to water fasts.
The present study explored the possibility that dehydration influences Klotho expression. Klotho transcript levels were determined by RT-PCR, and Klotho protein abundance was detected by Western blotting in renal tissue from hydrated and 36-h-dehydrated mice as well as in human embryonic kidney (HEK293) cells. Dehydration was followed by a significant decline of renal Klotho transcript levels and protein abundance, accompanied by an increase in plasma osmolarity as well as plasma ADH, aldosterone, and 1,25(OH)2D3 levels. Antidiuretic hormone (ADH; 50 nM) and aldosterone (1 μM) significantly decreased Klotho transcription and protein expression in HEK293 cells. In conclusion, the present observations disclose a powerful effect of dehydration on Klotho expression, an effect at least partially mediated by enhanced release of ADH and aldosterone.
Interesting, but again not relevant to human dry fasting compared to water fasting.
Most of our theorys come from animal studies
Did you read the research and studies on dry fasting and then compare them to water
Did you research the doctors and clinics that perform medical and therapeutic dry fasting
Keto has little research and its efficacy has to be extrapolated from similar studies and research.
Keto has a ton of research, which I am more than happy to link if you like. I found 1 study on dry fasting in mice lookng at downregulation of klotho expression. How is that supposed to be compared to anything?
I’m sorry you found this discussion insulting. I feel that you have dodged the question. You said there was science. I said “show me the science”. You said “go google it for yourself”. I did, although that is beyond the call of duty as normally the burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim, and showed that the science you claimed was linked is not relevant.
Ball’s in your court. If you make a claim and can’t back it up, and feel it is rude of me to point out this out, I’m sorry.