Vintage Ladies Keto Klub

(Melissa Marie) #321

From everything I have read if you don’t account for your new weight you will plateau. You have to adjust your calories based on your new weight and can’t keep eating the same to continue loosing. Is there any way to stick to the food in the diet that is recommended but modify the quantities of what it is you are eating to see if that will help?

I definitely understand your frustration. I have given up diets many times because of things like this. But now I actually have hope because there is so much more information available on how to modify things in effort to see results. Fasting might help break your plateau also.
Stick with it and try new things. :slight_smile:

(Melissa Marie) #322

So yesterday I had a test. DH is sick and we have a thing where we get Mc Donalds when we are sick. It is easy and the comfort food made us “feel better.” I had been craving a burger and fries… it was literally the only thing I wanted. I told him if we go I was going to cheat… and have what I wanted. Being somewhat supportive, he said as long as I got back on track. On the way there I had a conversation with myself about my health, all that I have been working for, where I want to be, how far I have come and especially reflecting on all of the things that people here on the forum have said were resolved by this WOE!!! By the time I got there I changed my mind and ended up getting two triples minus the bun and a unsweet tea. It was actually good and I was very happy and especially FULL. It was too much food. lol but it was good! And although I wanted the fries, I really didn’t miss them!!! :hamburger::fries:

Ended up fasting till noon with ketoade and then only ate two pieces of turkey and some mozzarella. No carbs at all yesterday (except cheese?) I just wasn’t even hungry, but by dinner I was starving. So the two triples hit the spot and then some.

And as of this morning I am down 10 lbs total :tada::confetti_ball:

EXTRA MOTIVATED for sure!

EDIT:Almost forgot… I had a ton of energy after dinner and wanted to organize my closet. It literally came out of nowhere after I ate. The energy was great, just at the wrong time, I have to be up at 430am for work. Had a tough time getting to sleep, got less sleep than I normally do, but wasn’t tired this morning.
:flushed::confounded:

(Karen) #323

I love that you ate in a more keto direction after your reflective talk. You are doing so well!!

K

(Melissa Marie) #324

Thank you Karen :slight_smile:

(Jo) #325

Ladies, I just want to put out to our little corner of the forum that it does concern me that there is a focus on low calorie (like under 1500)… I know that some of the keto websites recommend calorie deficits but in the long run you can run the risk of lowering your metabolism, which is counterproductive.
In my research, I think (for me) it is better to suppress insulin through intermittent fasting (16-18 hour etc.) than through calorie restriction.
I really am trying to not eat when I am not hungry, and eat when I am - which is really hard because there are so many social cues and opportunities to eat for entertainment and not for physical need.
I think that carb restriction (under 20 net or even gross some days) is a better way of thinking than calorie restriction.
I’m really done with being hungry! If it’s the end of the day and I’m still hungry, I’ll eat a little pat of butter.

I want to make this sustainable for myself. I’m doing this for the long haul… My success is slow, but change is happening.
Keto is teaching me to be patient.

I hope I don’t sound preachy. I’m just very concerned about approaching Keto with calorie restriction in mind.

(rhondi) #326

Yay! so happy to have found this bunch. I’m 63, mostly carnivore, getting healthy but not expecting to share amazing before and after photos. Im not expecting to look good naked just better in clothes will suffice. Now that I’ve found you I will be coming back. Keto on ladies!

#327

Hi everyone! I am tickled to find this “mature” group of others who are doing this lifestyle. I am 58 and started Keto on January 8th. So it hasn’t been long but so much easier than I imagined. It helped that I love pork rinds and fatty meats. My biggest hurdle was when I took my grandsons to a movie. I always bought myself my own huge tub of popcorn and bought the kids their own so I did not have to share. This time I made a batch of parmesan chips and brought a few to munch on during the movie. That worked out perfectly! So far, I have lost 10 pounds the first two weeks and have seemed to stall lately. But I shall persevere and keep on Keto as a lifestyle. So glad to have found this forum and group.

#328

Hi All. Newbie here. 56-year-old, peri-menopausal, mother. I started Keto mid-December 2017. I am confused with trying to get accurate numbers from a keto calculator. I have tried 4 different calculators and all the macros really vary. I’ve seen everything from 1240 calories, 25 gr carbs, 80+ gr protein, 90+ gr of fat all the way up to 1350+ calories, 30 gr. carbs, 106+ gr. protein and 100+ gr. of fat. Just wondering if anyone has experienced this type of range?

(Karen) #329

Mine (note no deficit) is 56g protein, 20 carbs, 133 g fat. 1500 calories. All I can say is I’m currently stuck, but not hungry!

:grinning::grinning:

K

(Karen) #330

“Keto ruled me” calculator let’s you select a deficit. It’s old school thinking. Pretty much everyone on this forum is 20 g carbs or less, protein in moderation, fat until satiety.

K

#331

You were fasting the 12-14 hours OR were you doing a IF or EF? My understanding is not to a IF or EF before blood work. I will try Dave Feldman protocol before I do my bloodwork.

(Karen) #332

The Doctor pretty much wanted blood before breakfast. Not an IF or EF really😀

(Melissa Marie) #333

I haven’t been abiding to the numbers at all really. Just eating to satiety. But in the event ppl get stuck I’ve seen fasting recomended, which is a huge but temporary deficit! Lol can you explain more about the new way of thinking vs the old or direct me somewhere that gives more explaination about why not to use a deficit. I’ve read that just because you can eat all you want doesn’t mean you should or that you will loose weight doing it. But I’ve read that some people can but after the initial weight comes off everything else will be slower especially if sedentary. Im assuming we all have to learn what works for us and especially as older women things are different than younger women and especially men. Just trying to learn more. Especially if my thinkin/understanding is incorrect. :slight_smile:

(Karen) #334

I love this commentary

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#335

Thank you! I’ve hit a bit of a plateau, so not sure if I should be adjusting my marcros. I’ve been having a lot of cravings for chocolate lately. Didn’t have that when I first started. I’m paranoid about my calories and my fat intake. I’m trying to stick to 1240 cal/day & 95gr. fat. I guess I just need to play with my macros a bit so I feel satiated but still losing a bit.

(Nola) #336

I’m not sure anyone here is advocating low calories? I hover between 16-1700 every day and I’m consistently losing. I do the standard 20 carbs, but sometimes my protein is higher than I like it to be, but I’m never going to stress over an extra portion of something if I really want to have more of it.

The keto calculators are an invaluable tool for all of us that we should revisit once in awhile as a guideline to stay on track… maybe we ought to start pointing people toward that more often.

(Melissa Marie) #337

LCHF WOE weren’t analyzed or considered in the 2nd and 3rd articles that I saw but it is mostly agreed in a general sense that a continual deficit can decrease your metabolism (and cause other problems) which in the end impacts weight loss and can cause weight gain. And CICO does work for a percentage of the population who aren’t experiencing a host of other things that conflict with it. It boils down to lifestyle, health, and whether or not it is is sustainable for you specifically. For us I understand CICO wouldn’t work which is why we are here. An interesting thing I found was that in the example provided in the first link a deficit was used to show how things work. I think after reading what you sent and looking around a little more this was the most important statement I found that is more related to the point being made about deficit.

Why we stall

and

Why we stall

So I understand why a deficit wouldn’t be helpful for healing or sustaining in IR ppl and why it actually conflicts. Thanks for bringing all this to my attention. I am not IR (at least not detectably) so it will be interesting for me to see how things go long term. Apparently everyone stalls at some point. For now, still loosing and staying mostly satiated and not tracking calories. KCKO :slight_smile:

#338

Hi All,
I’m late 50’s. I started Keto about a month ago. Lost only two pounds. Weight was 153. Did a keto fast for five days and lost weight quickly, 8 pounds. I’m now IF for the past two days. Today, I woke up with a terrible pain on right, mid-side of body. I’m treating for liver and possibly gallstones, with lemon water and Chanca Piedra. Anyone else experiencing the pain? I haven’t eaten yet today, because it hurts more when I’m upright. One site said to eat more often and possibly air in GI. Thoughts anyone? (Besides going to the doctor, it’s Sunday. I’ll call tomorrow.)
Thx.

(Susan) #339

Hi everyone,

I thought I would jump in and introduce myself on this thread. I’m new to the forum but not to keto. I am 52, post-menopause (surgical, 20 yrs. ago) and 5’3" short. :blush:

I’m down 70lbs from my highest recorded weight of 250lbs in Jan. 2012. I lost the first 20 or so eating “clean” low-ish carb. But in 2014 I was having some terrible problems with GERD and decided to take my carbs even lower. So, I’ve been keto since Feb. 2014.

I lost most of my weight in 2014-2015 and then my weight loss slowed way down and eventually pretty much stalled. I was nowhere near goal, but I felt good and was happy where I was, so I just decided to maintain for awhile and let my body adjust. I knew I would get back to losing more someday. However, in the latter part of 2017, I got lazy and let carb creep sneak in. I was eating too many nuts, drinking too much wine, and using a lot of artificial sweeteners. I also started finding way too many excuses to have a cheat meal. All this naughtiness caused me to gain 4lbs, and then I went off the rails a bit over the holidays and put on another 4 lbs.!

So, in January I snapped myself out of my carb stupor and recommitted myself to keto. I’m just glad I was able to get myself back on track before too much damage was done! Since then I’ve lost those 8lbs I gained, plus another pound and got to record a new low weight yesterday. I’ve seen that some of you are struggling and getting discouraged, so I thought I would share what is working for me:

Fasting: I incorporated fasting, first doing 16/8 IF and now I’m doing 24 hrs. MWF, but my “day” starts at 6:30 p.m., so I get to eat dinner every night. I can’t believe how well this is working. I’m losing 1.5 - 2 lbs a week so far. On my eating days, I’m not really counting calories, but I guess I am eating around my TDEE or maybe a tad higher. I plan to extend these 24 hr. fasts to 36 hrs. in the coming weeks.

Tracking Macros: I went back to carefully tracking macros to avoid the dreaded carb creep and over eating protein.

Sweeteners: I don’t know if AS have any effect on my insulin or BG, but I do feel that they were at least driving cravings. I am strictly limiting any AS use to meal times. This seems to be working to keep me from wanting more, more, more. I’ve also given up peanut butter as it is a huge trigger food for me.

Alcohol: I’ve had to say “so long” to my beloved wine for awhile. I will occasionally have bourbon or vodka and flavored seltzer.

I’ve learned so much from the podcast and this forum and thrilled to be here. Good luck in your journey (and it is an EPIC journey!) and KCKO!

(Karen) #340

Love the links Melissa! Just what I needed to hear right now. I’m stalled

K