Pain in back hips and butt at day 4 of extendedfast

[Lovethyself]

could be neurological or related to nerves as well, worth getting checked out. Hope it improves xox

[KetoinAfrica]

Thanks. I’m off to the chiropractor tomorrow. Keeping up with keto WOE.

[CandyLindTX]

One more odd thing that happened today, a good 4 days after I broke the fast for good: I noticed bumps on my thighs that have never been there before and when I squeezed one a hard, light yellow, seed-like thing came out. Its size, shape and consistency was similar to a decent size grain of sea salt. I poked around at the other bumps, about 10 on each leg, and only water came out, but all the bumps were hard, like they had a seed inside. I’ve read about rashes before, though I wouldn’t call this a rash, per se

Read up on xanthoma, an inherited condition in which benign fatty deposits develop under the skin at different areas all over the body. That “seed” might be cholesterol. There’s not much here on the site, except in the Bob Harper thread (he’s got the inherited condition) and one other about xanthomas under the eyes. It might be worth a doctor visit to see if that is what your “rash” is. I’m not sure why that came to mind when I read your description, but … maybe.

[Suzanne_Leigh]

Thanks for this info, @CandyLindTX. I’ll do some research.

I’m now 7 weeks past that fast and I’ve still got a few of those bumps. I’m into day 3 of new fast. Will be interesting to see what happens with the rash/bumps as this fast progresses. I’m shooting for 10 days this time.

[Alpha]

@Rian

Any update Rian on the back pain will be appreciated.

My situation is almost exactly like you described that is how I found this thread. It only comes when IF.

thanks

[Rian]

I never put my finger on the exact mechanism but I can say the pain gradually improved over time to the point of no longer being an issue. About all I can say is hang in there, the pain will eventually subside.

[Alpha]

thanks for replying

I do not want to speak too soon , but kale maybe helping.

[Madeleine]

@Alpha, @Rian @Suzanne_Leigh Not sure if this helps anyone, but I don’t think I saw it mentioned above: caffeine withdrawal gives me severe leg aches - to the point that I can’t sleep. The first time I did a water fast I could not figure out what was going on but I eventually pieced it together.

[Alpha]

thanks @Madeleine

Yes anything in my opinion is worth mentioning.

But caffeine is OK with me . even when I quit I just get slight headache .

but I suspect that cafeine is causing my high triglycerides.

I deleted a sentence here that I thought I wrote in another thread )

thanks

[Rian]

caffeine withdrawal gives me severe leg aches

Hmm, very interesting. Seems plausible, I’ll add this to my list of reasons to avoid caffeine as I seem to have developed a wide range of sensitivities to it recently.

[katmm]

Another thought on hip/back pain a few days into a fast. Jason Fung has said that your immune system is replaced when we fast longer than 72 hours. Those new white blood cells are produced in our bone marrow. The locations which have the largest amount of bone marrow? Hip bones. Cancer patients who take drugs to mobilize their bone marrow after chemo are very familiar with this pain.

Kathy

[DiMo]

Another thought on hip/back pain a few days into a fast. Jason Fung has said that your immune system is replaced when we fast longer than 72 hours. Those new white blood cells are produced in our bone marrow. The locations which have the largest amount of bone marrow? Hip bones. Cancer patients who take drugs to mobilize their bone marrow after chemo are very familiar with this pain.

Great integration of information from various sources! Having worked with cancer patients for years, this TOTALLY makes intuitive sense to me.

Thanks for sharing.

[Alpha]

very interesting

when I start searching I was convinced something is wrong with my kidneys.

not any more.

[Rian]

Those new white blood cells are produced in our bone marrow.

I guess pain from the rapid production of new white blood cells could be referred to as a good hurt. That’ll be my new way of thinking about it as this sounds more plausible than any explanation I’ve heard so far.

[pwoolston]

I am on day 4 of a dry fast and my back and thighs and buttocks etc. started aching pretty bad. I decided to try my foam roller on my back and lower body this actually took the pain away for 4 hours and then it came back and I did it again. This is how I have been managing it this works well also cracking your lower back also works and Yin-Restorative Yoga.

[Alpha]

Try eating some kale

This pain is so confusing, and I have tried so many things that is why I am not sure what exactly helped me but the kale is a prime suspect.

[pwoolston]

I finally had a bowel movement which alleviated the pain.

[pwoolston]

No

[sugar-addict]

I finally had a bowel movement which alleviated the pain.

This thread and the above answer has inspired me to start the following thread/ poll about a golden rule I know from 10 years’ experience with EF…

Having trouble with EF? Discomfort etc...? Try the EF golden rule of using a laxative pre fasting

Do you empty your bowels completely (gentle laxative) before an extended fast? Do you have trouble doing extended fasts? 0 voters This thread: https://www.ketogenicforums.com/t/pain-in-back-hips-and-butt-at-day-4-of-extendedfast/22077 and one answer to the thread in particular, has inspired me to raise an issue about extended fasting, that I mostly see “ignored” here on the forum… I come from a background of EF (10 years experience) and am part of a (non-English speaking) fasting…

[pwoolston]

I’m having the same issue it comes and goes usually it’s more intense when I lie down. I use my foam roller which helps a bit and also magnesium bathes. I’ve looked all over the internet and can’t find any answers. I am on day 14 of a dry and water fast.