MOOvember Carnivore
MeganNZ
(Megan)
#227
Wow Linda, thatâs intense! Glad you are okay. I wonder what the heck happened. Is it possible that type of veg is just plain toxic, but our bodies learn to accommodate the toxins over a period of gradual and ongoing exposure, so symptoms are mild and generally ignored or put down to other causes?
Fangs
#228
simple really FB. I donât do well anymore on rendered beef fat in burger.
I ate tons of it starting zc well. About 2 yrs or so ago I found I loved less fatty burger. I only buy 85/15 or above now. But lately even the 85/15 I am not loving. My best is 90/10 or 93/7.
I find both are like eating filet mignon steak. The texture is so soft and tender and more melty in my mouth kinda thing. I donât rely anymore on rendered beef fat as some kind of good fat for me. Guts ainât happy with it anymore.
It is just a personal progression walk for me on burger meat and fat content.
-------------So here is my pork loin I ate yesterday. Just shy of a lb. of meat. I sliced thin and cooked fast and high to crisp a bit in some butter. YUM! Finger ate it in record time LOL
second meal was tuna and mayo with 4 slices salami.
Today I am making my mini meatloaves with the 93/7 burger. Will shoot a pic when I get them made in a while.
I ended up packaging up the burger for freezer and froze it and then I saw I froze it and had to defrost for the meatloaf I wanted yesterday and knew I had that pork loin defrosted I had to eatâŚomgâŚwhen I get âtoo much meatâ around me in the fridge I have to say, eat this, freeze that, defrost that to eat later and what a darn bad issue to have right? 
too crazy sometimes on how my meat supply works for me LOL again, yea like it is a real problem 
What kills me is last wk I had to throw out a smaller NY Strip I had in the back of the fridge that got put behind the âfamily crapâ and I lost it. I cringe to the max throwing out my meat!! ugh.
Feeling great now except some sinus issues. Super cold here and that is not me and feeling the winter blues and putting me more in a mood, bleck. Still planning my sunny full on retirement life in the HOT South area where I will thrive vs. freeze my buns off in the cold LOL
ZC strong all!
carnivoor2
(Vic)
#229
Karen18
(Karen)
#232
I never feel satiated eating deli these days. I always feel the need for some proper hot food.
JJFiddle
(Judy Thompson)
#233
@FrankoBear the Mayo Clinic! Love it!
I like mayo too add that extra binding fat to meat salads like tuna, chopped chicken or egg. I did experiment with just salting boiled eggs and wonder if itâs just the saltiness of mayo thatâs so satisfying sometimes. As kids we loved it, would eat it straight. Mom staged a terrifying inquisition once, âWho left the spoon in the mayonnaise?? If somebody doesnât confess Iâm gonna spank all 4 of ya!â We still laugh about that. It lasted for hours, or at least it seemed like hours. My sister never would confess 
@MeganNZ âThe skin is MINE lolâ Love it! Donât give it to hubby either, he doesnât eat it and I just have to eat his in the kitchen later lol.
Thereâs only 1 duck fat here.
At least, thatâs whatâs in my grocery store. Leaving it out a few minutes though, it softens, out I can sous vide anything at 100°F to soften or thaw quickly.
@azi OMG!! Great account of death by veggies! That cream cheese combo would have made me so happy in the old days too. Love Dr. Chaffee, heâs my fave podcast.
@MeganNZ What a great dog mommy you are! Iâve always considered it an honor when a pet trusts me with their life and health.
The past 3 days Iâve tried every day to get in here and read and post. Today was earmarked for this purpose - with all the interruptions I think Iâve finally gotten there. Only about 30 posts behind but hubby kept wanting to talk or practice.
Lastnight we had our little 15 minutes of fame on the local radio station and it went quite well. I think only my brother in AZ heard the broadcast but we had a good time. He asked us to come back in a few weeks and play Christmas music. Itâs on the internet live and only 15 minutes. But they changed our time a couple times so I couldnât let people know.
So back to Wednesday. We had to take the car for a big repair in a neighboring town and stopped there for lunch. I got a sausage and cheese platter. Ate half and brought the rest home.
We also went clothes shopping, still picking up western clothes for our performances. Reba McIntyre has a line, they look great. Hubby was jaw-dropped at the medium sized clothes. It hadnât registered with him.
Wednesday night we played at the roadhouse. Mimsy was chased around by a 10 week old puppy thatâs bigger than she is. She was not amused.
Yesterday we had to go back to get the car, came home and had beef tritips Iâd cooked in sous vide for 24 hours.
They were incredibly rare and tender!
Today, a combination of turkey and tritips. You can see my steak hiding under all these turkey wings and the 1 thigh. I couldnât finish it all. I have so much admiration for @Naghite for your ability to consume 4500 calories
Fangs
#235
@carnivoor2
you always put a smile on my face with your posts 
Junkfood, yea I sure get that and alot of time I just call it scraps!
--------------So I made 2 bigger meatloaves out of my burger I defrosted.
3 eggs to that meat and bake. OH WOW it was so soft and delish that I ended up eating 1.5 of it allâŚI got a 1/2 left for today to scrap up in second meal. First meal today got a nice steak defrosting. steak and burgerâŚyup day zc done for me.
Naghite
(Michael)
#236
In fairness, I am doing ADF, otherwise that would be way too much if I ate every day
Absolutely, every day. Bit shy that day of vitamin C (62%) and B1 (73%), but normally I get enough of those, so not worried about one or two light days for those vitamins. Today I will get more than enough of both of those.
FrankoBear
#237
Lamb chops (5) tonight with some delicious white fish called Pink Snapper. 1 x playing card 5mm thick slice of pan-fried sheepâs milk halloumi cheese. Midday breakfast was 3 rashers middle bacon and 3 chicken eggs scrambled. A hot beef bone broth was downed during the afternoon. There was coffee.
I went to the beach with Mrs. Bear and Billie. Weâre just out the other side of a few stormy cold-front days. On the walk I counted 43 large black cockatoos foraging in the coastal sand dunes. They were eating wild geranium seed heads and the flowers from the saltbush. These birds are rare and going extinct. It was a joy to see and sit with them.
Our old mate Dr. Ted Naiman has some things to say about the carnivore diet on the Diet Doctor podcast. The video is book marked to the section. The topic is satiety.
Fangs
#238
guys I started this thread for US, Carnivores!! A ZEN thread to check out how we ALL ARE doingâŚvisit and give input!!!
Shinita
#239
I wrote this early yesterday and now I send it alreadyâŚ
@Naghite: And people think carnivore doesnât offer variety 
Oh, slicing thin, what an idea⌠Something never crossed my mind. I love crispy thing⌠I will tryâŚ
I usually just cut my (very fatty) meat into small cubes and fry it in its own fat I like it but surely there are other lovely ways to fry meatâŚ
Hi people, we have a rainy day again 
My poor garden, I would have some work to do in it but not when itâs wet⌠Oh well, itâs not THAT important I suppose.
We just gave up and started heating at night too⌠4C mornings and not quite warm days, a not warm enough yet house (as we wait with heating until we actually start to feel cold and itâs below our normal winter temperature since we have the A/C. so first we need to warm up the house) and 3-5-7 hours of heating downstairs just isnât a good enough combo. Oh well. The first night didnât bring much difference but last night (heating longer and higher) finally did. It was 19C at noon! Thatâs cool, erm warm Rainy but cold day so airing brought down the humidity, nice. We still need to use the dehumidifier after washing, we always fill the washing machine so there is a lot of wet clothes then. And we never had a drier and never will, not important while taking up space and I never have enough of that. Normally (when itâs not winter) we can put most of the clothes and other cloths outside, thatâs nice. I like that we have a roofed terrace part and part of it even gets sunshine! Some part doesnât as it has 3 beautiful big pines in the way. Fortunately they are very much living, only the thujas died or dying.
Clothes drier, oh, what a modern concept⌠I lived in a house without water! (Just in summer, it was my Grandmaâs. I loved it. I mean, there wasnât water even on the property, that came later. No, there was a well a few hundreds of meters away.) I washed my clothes by hand when I was a beginner programmer in the capitol⌠Oh and the same big city had rented places without a toilet (well, there was a common one, one for multiple apartments). I was shocked, that is the level I just couldnât accept ever (and rooms without a window. okay there was one looking at a tiny⌠erm, duct? vertical tunnel? other peopleâs toilets looked at it. NOPE. oh I saw horrible places in the capitol whenever I tried to rent a place using my very tiny money). It was bad enough to have a stranger as a roommate in the first months. But I needed a room not to lose my first job I managed to get after a long search. I was born at the wrong time.
I have nice fatty meat now (the SUPER fatty one they sold as pork chop. I will track it as pork shoulder, the fat content is at least that much. but maybe a tad less than the 70/30 scraps I used to buyâŚ), I will eat a pound of it nicely fried, I chose some quite fatty pieces So my roast probably will be just not too fatty.
I focused on leaner pork in the past and while I still think it can help me sometimes, it doesnât work so well now that I eat less eggs and fatty dairy doesnât seem to help with satiation. I too easily overeat protein if I use leanish meat as my main food I think. Or if my satiation will be quick again in the future, I undereat fat during the day.
I try to buy a lot of pork chuck in the near future, that is the chillest. I love it, fat/protein ratio is brilliant for my needs⌠Not the cheapest though but if it satiates me just right and gives me more joy, the difference isnât much.
Anyway, itâs pork so itâs cheap compared to many other items.
I drop my dairy now that I have quite fatty protein to base my day on and freshly made at that! I roast 1300g fatty pork, it should be enough for 3 days, I will eat other meats , my pickled herring is nearing its expiration date and I probably will need the variety soon anyway.
Apart from hardships regarding getting satiated (I was so unsatiated after my dinner yesterday, it passed but then I had some problem at night as so often⌠but I was sleepy and focused on something else, I had enough of eating at night anyway so I managed to get away with a slightly creamy coffee), itâs quite chill now. Itâs carni day #4 for me now (not clean enough even for me due to the carbs in my catfish spread and I had to eat a little whipped cream I made for Alvaro as he didnât need it anymore, it had 1-2 grams of non-animal carbs again and it was sweetener at that. okay I go back to normal whipped cream and only a little amount gets sweetened, I did it many times but I supposed he will eat it all. he didnât. but itâs November and I am not THAT dedicated. I am just training. I will be super dedicated in January, I totally expect it being full carnivore. how hard it could be? I will buy various items to help me out in need. I donât have any processed meat now except some sausages I dislike because it doesnât uses real intestine but some too thick thing. edible but it bothers me. the taste of the sausage is fine but I ate way better of the same kind) and itâs quite fine. I mean, exactly zero temptation or compulsion or whatever to eat off. It is expected but considering my November this far, I should appreciate I can behave now. Not like I have other good options. Satiation is hard enough with meat and eggs now and they are my best items (apart from gluten but letâs not talk about that, I donât even have any now).
But the majority of my fasting window and usually a part of my eating window is spent in nice satiation and not thinking about what to eat in the near future. I probably even think less about food, still much. Nice topic.
Oh by the way, I used the program @FrankoBear introduced to us. Most styles like bacon, apparently. Even the âchewed, partially digested and vomitedâ style (Arcane) that makes some super detailed carpet patterns decided to put an almost recognizable egg and bacon on the pic⌠As I added eggs, itâs me, after all. Brilliant choice.
Pandora is very pretty, it made a piece of wonderful art from garbage bags too⌠It is obsessed with putting some shiny, juicy greens to pinkish things but it doesnât do it with bacon for some reason.
Shinita
#240
So, yesterday. I donât remember, itâs good I have notes⌠3MAD, maybe? I had 655g pork and a little pickled herring (and eggs and dairy of course but not very much. not very little either). The latter was a huge disappointment. I didnât feel the very tiny amount of sugar in it but it was full with pickled vegs, more than I expected and poor fish became a mush and mixed with the pickle juice with barely any decent looking (well melted looking but at least mostly fish) pieces It was super sour anyway and I love sour so itâs something. It wasnât spoiled or anything but it wasnât really nice. I wonât buy it again but I donât want to give up on pickled herring And all the others I checked this far contained sugar and various horrible tasting sweeteners. Sigh. Oh well, Alvaro hates the smell of it anyway. And I lived without it for decades. (I still will check them here and there⌠)
I canât track so I stopped today. For yesterday⌠Still unknown as I have no idea about the fattiness of my pork but I took an educated guess, I have experience, after all. I ate an okay amount or a bit much and definitely high protein.
And I got a bit distressed. My output processes are always perfect or near perfect. I never have the D. Just now and it was quite extreme for the minute it lasted. And my insides were tender afterwards. And I donât get it, what did it wrong?! I ate well
I just hope it never will happen again, once per life is more than enough for me. And I feel sorry for everyone who has it 100 or 1000 times worse/more often.
I still got hungry later and tasted my fresh pork roast. It wasnât tender yet so I roasted it more.
Today I was satiated until quite long and then I was borderline hungry for hours. I ate at 16:20 I wasnât very hungry, ate my 450g pork (accidentally, I didnât weigh it first), some eggs and dairy and thatâs it. So it was a quite modest but okay day I suppose. I feel a bit odd though, maybe I will get hungry again.
No tracking is nice and I need to train to avoid it so I will do that for some days.
I am still drinking coffee and opened another box of cream. I am incorrigible. I donât have as many as I used to but still too many. Oh well, I canât focus on everything at once and quitting coffee isnât the most important thing for now.
I focus on not eating when I donât need it yet at the moment. What I eat is straightforward, a bit above a pound of meat, a few eggs, little dairy. Things go smoothly now, I like my food and I am not nearly as hungry as days ago.
Shinita
#241
Midnight meal. Well my first meal was a tad low it seems, it felt wonderful to eat some more, still okay macros I suppose (eyeballed things and the meat seems about as fat as pork chuck :)).
530g pork and a tiny bit of pickled herring as meat today. Less meat than usual, I came a long way⌠I am nicely satiated now.
FrankoBear
#242
Naghite
(Michael)
#243
Breakfast today was large thanks to 17 ounce sirloin. Started with
But I was still hungry, so ate half of
That was 2 pounds total and took 45 minutes to chew and swallow with
17 oz sirloin
3 oz thymus
2.5 oz spleen
1.5 oz chicken liver
1 oz beef liver
1 oz mussels
1 oz bone marrow
5 oz cheese
Second meal was
4 oz Buffalo heart
2oz snails
5 oz salmon
4 oz pork ribs
2 eggs
5 oz cheese (rest of package)
Snack was not carnivore đŤŁ
Total for day was an astounding 395g protein, 325 g fat, 24 g carbs and a total calorie count of 4578.
Wait until tomorrowâs picture, I am thawing a 23.5 oz sirloin steak for lunch 
Karen18
(Karen)
#244
Wow I think I missed some Posts!
Food over last few daysâŚcos I think you must all be thinking Iâve starved myself since that lamb and pork lol
Been busy for a few days. Was dancing Friday afternoon which was lovely, went on my own and feeling quite alright as I donât get a lot of chance to sit down, the young men (all probably over 70) donât like to see me sitting took the ham with me from the freezer so it was defrosted in time to munch on way home (45min drive down and an hour back) I hadnât had anything to eat before going so the ham saw me through to my proper meal about half 5. Which was the bacon n eggs.
Yesterday did CrossFit with my daughter, it was a teams workout (of 4) and a pretty enjoyable one too. Still chugging away with this cough non stop till the workout actually started and then thankfully it stopped all the way through. Got a few looks at the beginning cos I reckon they were thinking is she going to make it through the workout lol! But I did and I was pleased with how I performed and I didnât let the team down hahaha
Saturdays munchies were a cafe brunch of 1 sausage, portion of bacon and cheese omelette which I laboured over surprisingly. I did finish it but it was touch and go lol not particularly big either, I have eaten more on occasions at the cafe. Later in the early evening I had chicken wings and yes I ate all those in the pic, not all at once though, just 2/3rds hot and about an hour later the rest cold. Then fancied trying the bacon. It was crispy and I ate the whole lot cos it was just right, not too salty and just crispy enough. Not had that before but would buy again as a snack. Would be good as a travelling snack for a long journey.
Up bright n early Nd have been reading quite a bit sitting outside with my coffee. It is pretty chilly and my fingers n toes are starting to get a bit numb so will now go indoors and get organised for the gym and an upper body workout this morning. Catch you all later.