very important to eat on carnivore and alot of other great info in this post.
Zero Carb Information Videos
Fangs
#203
https://realfoodcarnivore.com/how-to-make-beef-liver-capsules/
HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN LIVER PILLS
this is wild and wooly using real liver and making your own capsules etc. but you can buy capsules premade and you can buy freeze dried liver alreadyâŚbut this is a fun read for those who are interestedâŚthis lady tried it all LOL
Fangs
#205
remember everyoneâŚyour mind and body will trick you every single way it can to get sugar back! Donât fall for it at allâŚlet sugar go! Donât allow it to rule you ever!
Fangs
#207
FANTASTIC READ from the âolden daysâ HAHA
not THAT long ago but before S Baker, or Paul S, or Charles W or the Petersons there was big knowledge on why a meat based menu was best for life and healing.
The carnivore knowledge was out there âlong agoâ 
and was just as important back then as it is today, but with all things, this world moves so fast day to day, what is great can be dismissed in a flash as the ânew BSâ takes the stage LOL
PaulL
(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing)
#208
I love these lines from Chapter One:
Even in those days [1919] we thought there was nothing to the treatment of obesity but to see that patients exactly adhered to a low-calorie diet. If the output of energy exceeded the intake, weight loss had to be automatic. It was not realized that low-calorie diets mean relative starvation with attendant weakness and hunger. . . .
At the end of a year a brief survey of clinic patients on low-calorie diets showed that the results were something worse than terrible. And they were no better in my office practice.
It was understandable perhaps in clinic work. Dispensary patients may be born failures with a tendency to fail at everything. But if more intelligent patients in the office were unable to lose weight successfully there had to be something wrong with the method.
If they could see this a century ago, youâd think someone would still remember it!
Azi
(Linda )
#209
Itâs an exellent read he was often quite blunt with his patients but even he saw back then what a few drs are saying today âŚand he often makes the point thats grains are to feed animals so eat the animals and its flour that hardens our arteries not fat not meatâŚthe sad part his treatment was out there and in the hospitals in New York such a shame it wasnât kept upâŚbut I think for him having treated patients from then all the way up til he wrote the book in 1961 goes to show that it def works, its sustainable and its not just a âfadâ diet.
Fangs
#210
I absolutely agree. Why are we so blind?
Also I SO agree
----------What kills me most in a way is just hospital foodâŚthe one place you go to heal is the place they feed you the worst?? With my mother in law having a full on sugar meal for breakfast when she is in for diabetes issues? I truly truly am dumbstruck sometimes on the crazy of it all out there!
PaulL
(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing)
#211
Interesting paragraphs from Chapter Four of Strong Medicine:
In the effort to work out an effective anti-obesity routine, and in an entirely arbitrary way, a half pound of fresh fat meat without salt was chosen to be eaten with each meal. Apparently it was a fortunate choice, for that is the amount I still recommend.
From what I have observed, a half pound of meat per meal [in the context of three meals a day] is the minimum quantity needed to maintain the work of repair of body cells.
Trial-and-error work seemed to show that the proportion of lean and fat had to be about three to one. Fat by itself is not easily digested. It must be mixed with something else. So the portion of meat after cooking should consist of two ounces of attached fat and six ounces of lean.
Most fat people donât eat enough fat meat three times a day to start the fire that will burn off their own excess fat.
Lots of food for thought, you should excuse the expression.
Azi
(Linda )
#212
Yes because alot of groups are now choosing to push this high protein low fat keto and carnivore Iâve noticed to the point that they are promoting low cal eating on carnivoreâŚi
Fangs
#213
very trueâŚso many âheavily and wronglyâ tweak a good keto plan or a zero carb eating planâŚtweak it truly to where it doesnât work!!! and then they go off and bad mouth the eating plan LOL
Fat is massively important on keto/or zc and yet it âgets super overly controlledâ by people sometimes who âthink they knowâ it is best to control itâŚall I can say to that is EAT WHAT the body is telling you to eat, eat how it is directing you.
everyone has wants for big big fat intake days and days where we truly donât need it or want it, that is just the body saying, hey I donât require big fat eating day! Your physical body wonât steer us wrong ever, we just have to listen and react and not get in our own way sometimes guessing we know better.
Fangs
#214
wonderful chat but listen carefully in it
dairy is the biggest issue for all carnivores trulyâŚstart with âhearing that!!â and this is not a video for NEW CARNIVORES!!! this is more for those who are going longer and longer and more veteran status of over at least 6 mos. on plan and no results in weight lossâŚwhich is rare cause healing hormones and more MUST take place and that is SO individual a timeline for all of usâŚbut newer carnivores should just EAT! But for longer term people, coming from Keto Plan or Very Low Carb into Carnivore and are not getting results after a decent amt of time on plan should realize a few things and can âtry a few thingsâ but be very very aware while doing anything different. Tweaking up carnivore is never a great way to rollâŚalot of bad can come fast when we monkey too much, so listening to your body is key on trying stuff.
Fangs
#217
https://www.facebook.com/groups/zioh2/posts/5743263059049212/?cft[0]=AZX6wbEz0feBbaGnHeZtTY5tL64dh-MW77lCGMZEeEHuG61JZsWcypJmDT-K_Zpx_l-IFxl8bkFV0f5IypwâOOegOD84ae4U7CdWKDBUNVwSgvSEpm-grUBWZrr6Y1GRV0&tn=-UK-R
WOW IT IS TRUEâŚMCDâS HAS CHANGED ITS ORDERING STYLEâŚbut many do not rely on fast food burgers, BUT MANY carnivores absolutely still use this in their daily livesâŚcheck out Kelly about it all
Fangs
#218
Great post from Kelly from Zeroing in on Health:
Hi, ZIOH! I want to make some things a little more clear about the âLean Lean Fatâ protocol that I discussed in the video with Craig and Maria Emmerich .
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âLean Lean Fatâ tweak is NOT the same thing as Protein Sparing Modified Fasting. PSMFing is a very calorie-restricted diet. This group Is NOT okay with eating less meat than our bodies need. If your body is asking for 3 pounds of meat per day, eat it! I do not think it is helpful or wise to ignore your bodyâs requests for nourishment, especially when you are eating only meat. Your body knows how much meat it needs in order to feel great and to have optimal health. Eat what your body needs.
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Brand new Carnivores should not focus on tweaking anything. For the first several months or more per individual on Carnivore, I would strongly recommend that people just focus on breaking addiction, getting their health back, and eating all of the meat that their body needs. No tweaks. Just meat. And I think that should be any meat that you can afford, that makes you feel great, and that you enjoy. Just eat.
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Health is always more important than the scale. Please donât ever do ANYTHING that makes you feel worse in the name of getting smaller. Without our health, we have nothing. I would focus on feeling great and living a long and healthy life, more than seeing a number go down on a scale.
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IF you are no longer dealing with health Issues and addiction, there are many ways to tweak your Zero Carb diet. Many people find that cutting out dairy allows them to drop some excess body fat. Some people have also cut out salt and have seen positive results. Some people find that getting sun, taking walks, sleeping more, or even getting a hobby can help them to finally balance their hormones and allow them to lose weight. All are great things to toy around with to see if they allow you to feel great and also lose excess body fat. Another option is to experiment with eating leaner meats or higher fat meats. (
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When I have a âleanerâ Carnivore day, I eat unlimited calories and unlimited amounts of protein. I do eat less fat on those days. If you try some leaner days and feel awesome, great! You may learn that your body doesnât need as much fat every day as you once thought. On the flip side: When I eat âhigher fatâ days, I still eat unlimited caloriesâŚbut I eat unlimited amounts of fat, and with less protein. You may learn that you feel better when you add fat. You may find that switching back and forth has some benefit. Or you may find that you did your best when you just ate more of a 1:1 ratio. Weâre all a little different. Thereâs nothing wrong with experimenting to see what works best for you. Itâs all meat. Eating leaner or higher fat may not be the ticket for you, but thereâs nothing wrong with trying different ratios to see if it helps you to feel better and to get the results you want.
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I do not think any size pants or any number on a scale is worth EVER feeling less than your absolute best. If your energy, mood, immune system, satiety, or general health ever suffers in the name of losing weight, I would re-prioritize. Health comes first. But I am also convinced that we can prioritize health AND be at a healthy body weight. Much of our weight is controlled by hormones, so reducing stress (or finding healthy ways to deal with stress) is a key factor that is often overlooked.
I love this group and all of its moderators. They are constantly trying to make sure that people are focused on health more than just a number on a scale.
I love you guys. I mean that.
************S0 I find this encouraging in that what one person on year 2 is NEVER a healed person who starts so as âwe readâ about how we progress just remember if newer donât DO WHAT longer term carnivores are doing just cause ya read it LOL in that we must go by the body, all the time, on what it asks, and the âdevil is big in the detailsâ of being the worse path you can take when newer cause you donât know you are carnivore just yetâŚthat comes with time on plan!