What happened with Jimmy Moore at the weekend?


(ianrobo) #1

Jimmy has apologised for his behaviour but I can not find out what happened between him and Jason Fung/Megan Ramos ?

Can anyone enlighten me ?

Jimmy Moore @livinlowcarbman
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Expressing genuine sorrow and remorse is one of the most difficult and humbling things a humanā€¦ instagram.com/p/BVVSz7SF96L/


(Bart) #2

(Adam Kirby) #3

Fasting Talk was cancelled due to personality differences or something. Some audience members were requesting Jimmy tone down his schtick and he didnā€™t want to. Fair play to Jimmy for making an apology like that.


(ianrobo) #4

oh very strange they never heard him before then ?


(Adam Kirby) #5

lol I know right.


(ianrobo) #6

ah sorry saw the link above just ā€¦ thanks ā€¦


(Bacon for the Win) #7

it apears that all of the posts airing their dirty laundry have been removed. I mustā€™ve had too much time on my hands that day as I watched it all come unglued. Fair enough to say that Jimmy has done some soul seraching and is honestly trying to mend the relationship now.

He is what he is and has never tried to hide that or change. It behooves us all for everyone to play nice in the sandbox.


(ianrobo) #8

Jimmy Moore is Jimmy Moore, I love him and his style his was the first podcast I found and listened to - Keto Talk on this ā€¦

Fasting talk was not my thing but listened to the odd one and not sure why anyone would think he would change


(Bart) #9

He no longer is the only show in town so people have options now. When you make something your business, when you make a living from it not just do it for fun there may be a time that you have to change in order to survive. Dr. Fung and Megan Ramos really do not need Jimmy Moore in order to have a successful podcast. If they did not enjoy working with him, then why do it.


(Crow T. Robot) #11

I donā€™t think thereā€™s anything anyone can tell you that will change your mind. You either like his style or you donā€™t (or you donā€™t care). I mostly donā€™t care. If I let myself get upset with things that annoy me, Iā€™d be miserable. I myself donā€™t much like his on air personality, but he seems like a good guy and deserves a lot of credit for keeping the Low-Carb fires burning during the Atkins backlash. He gets a lot of good guests, and even though he talks over his guests and canā€™t seem to let someone else be the ā€œstarā€, itā€™s still worth listening to for the information. Thatā€™s about all I can say.

As for Fasting Talk, if he refused to respond to complaints, then he made his own bed. Itā€™s all well and good for him, heā€™s just a guy with a podcast. Jason and Megan are health care professionals who need to be taken seriously. I just read his apology and it was a good one. Good on him for that. I still donā€™t know what exactly he was apologizing for ā€“ maybe the original Facebook post that likely turned some of his more passionate followers against Jason and Megan, but Iā€™m speculating.


(Jane Reed) #12

When Jason and Megan clean up their potty-mouths, they can come over to the ā€œtaken seriouslyā€ side.

I never much cared for Jimmyā€™s silliness but this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black


(ianrobo) #13

I will have to say this. I like what Jason Fung says but I think he has an issue with how he says it.

The problem is now everyone is seeing podcasts as money generators we get this kind of thing. It is no coincidence they claim recording takes so long and yet will set up one directly linked to their business, everyone is on the same page here.

@canketo there is a thread on here with all available podcasts and the only way of knowing what one is right for you is to try them out. I always want the information so have about 40 feeds onto my phone which takes some listening. The most open minds will listen to all sources then use the science and evidence to come to your own conclusions.

We as humans do not need to simply follow one person or group (though many find that easy), they do not have the monopoly on wisdom.


(Linda) #14

Iā€™m really getting into Dr Rhonda Patrick of ā€˜Found My Fitnessā€™. Quite scientific, so a bit of it goes over my head, but I really enjoy learning as much as I can.

I think youā€™d like it.


#16

This is the forum wiki on podcasts: WIKI: Favorite Keto Related Podcasts

Thereā€™s another wiki on books: WIKI: Book Recommendations

Also read the comments because not everyone has been editing them into the wiki post at the top.


(Michael Wallace Ellwood) #17

I too think he is a good guy who deserves respect. I hadnā€™t noticed him particularly talk over guests, although heā€™s always so bubbling with enthusiasm it might sound like that sometimes.
Heā€™s had some great guests over time, and Iā€™d always found him to be rather respectful of them.

I do think his ā€œKeto Talkā€ one can be a little self-indulgent sometimes, but is still worth listening to.

I have no idea what the problem was between him and Dr. Fung and Megan Ramos and I guess Iā€™ll never find out now, but itā€™s not really important in the grand scheme of things.


(Jane Reed) #18

I want to say something about website and podcast advertising.

Jimmy and others have been criticized for this and I canā€™t, for the life of me, understand why. When you attempt to upgrade your website and the sound quality of your podcast, being a neophyte in each field, you put in tremendous amounts of time and money. At some point, like Jimmy, you may realize that the time you wish to spend at publicizing your message canā€™t be balanced with a regular job. You have to accept ads if you want to keep on.

I was listening to Jimmyā€™s podcasts many years ago and the sound quality was poor. His blog posts and website were amateurish. Now, his written and audio publications are quite professional. For us now-sophisticated web users, who despise cheesy efforts, his publications are up to our standards. This all comes at a cost. Obviously, Jimmy decided to take the plunge and try to wrest his living from the ads he could carry while doing yeomanā€™s work in the low carb field.

I would like it if @carl and @richard would, in a post completely separate from this thread, let us know how much time and money they spend on their podcast, blog posts, and this forum. Or, if not personal to them, a general description of these costs that bloggers and podcasters face. Jimmy, and all those like him who have dedicated so much that has been to our advantage, without cost to us, should never be dissed for taking advertising. Someone on this forum did that and it was just wrong.


(G. Andrew Duthie) #19

Never at the level that @carl does it, but Iā€™ve hosted a podcast, produced screencasts, and Iā€™ve blogged for many years.

All are time-consuming in their own way, particularly if you are looking to produce a quality product. For some of us, that amounts to a labor of love, and/or a means of helping market our brand or our business, and as such we donā€™t necessarily try to directly monetize that effort. But it doesnā€™t make it any less time-consuming.

So I agree completely that complaining about advertising in podcasts is counter-productive. Those who do a good job, and build a sufficient following to be attractive to advertisers should not have to feel bad about using ads. Theyā€™re simply recouping some of the investments theyā€™ve made.


#20

Agreed! We all deserve to make a living.

And not only that, anyone who doesnā€™t care to listen to the ads can simply fast forward past them, so I donā€™t get why the complaints.


(ianrobo) #23

of course if adverts are such a problem can fast forward them ?

If not for Jimmy I would never have heard of Ketonix and that really helps me


#24

I was responding to @devhammer who I believe was responding to @Buttonwillowā€™s general comments. :slight_smile: