What happened with Jimmy Moore at the weekend?


#25

Heā€™s had multiple podcasts, so not sure which one/s youā€™ve listened to. There are some 1200+ episodes of LLVLC out there, which i enjoy browsing through the archives because he interviews many interesting low carb and keto advocates. Along those lines, there is some good stuff in Ask the Low Carb Experts.


(James storie) #28

The main thing that makes Jimmy so popular among ketonians is the fact that heā€™s been doing podcast longer than anyone else in the industry. Also, his sense of humor aside, he always has quality content. A lot of the people who are successful in the keto/low carb world owe him for the recognition.


(Richard Morris) #29

Not to be pedantic ā€¦ but @carl has been podcasting since before there were podcasts. I believe 4 years before Jimmy first began to podcast.

Jimmy has earned a special place in the low carbohydrate community because he was itā€™s primary healthcare consumer voice for a long time.


(James storie) #30

You got me there, I forgot about @carlā€™s other podcast!


(ianrobo) #31

The industry as you say is the health industry, of course Tech geeks being doing it longer :slight_smile:


(Jason Cordier) #32

Here clearer details to follow what happened for one side. There is a bit of Jimmy hate going on by fans, but I posted so you could see Jason and Meganā€™s explanation of what happened from their perspective.


(KayCee) #33

Thank you


(Karen Parrott) #34

I see Jimmy Moore as a community ā€œconnectorā€. He has the social connectors to key players in the field. That brings immense value to the community so that key social and science work can move forward faster, to help more people.

That being said, as a lay person who had 40 years of prior obese, overweight and binge eating, I need to take my key and core advise at a personal level 1:1 from others who were obese as children and are long term weight maintainers >2 years due to weight maintenance requirements and the stone cold data facts that somewhere between 2-40% of folks relapse.

Hereā€™s my 2 cents and soap box-IMO.
We are smart people with almost too much advice paired without the optimal level of critical thinking, lab testing, targeted group support, and science. The Art and Science of Weight Maintenance is still developing. Me included 5.5 years out.

Itā€™s truly my hope that we can grow more individuals and groups based around Weight Maintenance and LCHF/Keto. Surely Iā€™m not the only one who doesnā€™t have health when they donā€™t have a normal range BMI.

A good part of it has to do with my genetics (FTO/TD2 and ghrelin genes ) , height (being short) and what I consider food addiction. My joints ache and Iā€™m in tears when I regain. I deserve better.

Hereā€™s to focusing on the strengths we all bring to the community and to leaving the differences behind us. Jimmy brings connection to the community. Thatā€™s valuable. Growth requires change. We can expect to see experts connect and disconnect based on many factors. Needs, key learning changes, new research, new connections, better fits within the community.

I started in 2011, late and have totally changed up who I learn from and who I had to stop following because I would start to binge eat, even in this community. We can and will learn and grow. Bring the social Art. Bring grace and social intelligence.

Take what works, move along until the whole puzzle fits for you. Be ready to change up- this group or individuals.

When you lose weight and maintain you will become much hated by most, loved by a few. Weird but true. Nobody wants to hear what worked or do the work or accept your answer may be 5-10 years down the road.


#35

I have never listened to fasting talk but like Keto Talk. I like Jimmy and even though I am a very cut and dried person, I find him easy to listen to when I am driving. He has a professionalism that keeps the discussion lively but informative.

Was recently driving and was listening to another podcast by two science people (not Megan or Jason) whose writing I find fascinating. Listening talk to each other I almost fell asleep on the road! If Jimmy had hosted them it would have been much more listener friendly.

Also, I think he has a specific role when co hosting with a physician, to encourage the expert to stop and explain the science to people who have never heard of a Fodmap or vLDL. I am sure when he says, what is that it is not because he does not know but because he needs to slow the geek train in a way people can understand


(Michael Wallace Ellwood) #36

I agree with this, and in reply to another poster, I never found even his older podcasts or blog posts amateurish. And clearly he put a lot of time into them, and would have found it hard to hold down a full-time job as well, so advertising was a must. Even the saintly Chris Masterjohn advertises these days, and no one much criticises him.


(ianrobo) #37

oh I do, he is very dry and frankly boring to listen to and now he has started to quote studies and we know what to think of them !

I like Jimmy a lot and his relationship with Will on Keto Talk took a while to get used to but now works better.


(David K) #38

I am on the ā€œI listen to Jimmy Moore podcasts in spite of him not because of himā€ wagon. I havenā€™t listened to Keto Talk since Doc Muscles left, not because he left but because I havenā€™t listened to any podcasts in a while.


(Richard Morris) split this topic #39

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(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #40

Jimmyā€™s personality has never worked for me. I respect him, but donā€™t particularly care to listen to him, and have no idea why. Itā€™s just one of those things. But Iā€™m sorry that things didnā€™t work out between him and Dr. Fung and Megan Ramos. The keto world is small enough that I hate to see any of us in conflict. I hope they can at least stay friends, whatever it was that actually happened.


(Norma Laming) #41

Well the only thing that stands out for me there is that Dr Fung is now booking new consults for 2020. If anyone can wait that long then by what definition could they need a Dr? Remind me of the old GPā€™s surgery joke I read a few years ago, where a receptionist offers a patient an appointment for two weeks time. The patient objects ā€œbut Iā€™ll be better by then!ā€

I often think that for someone who clearly has such problems with food and weight, Jimmy Moore might do well not have a job where the focus is so much on food. Really, with the sort of problems he faces, you need to do something where youā€™re not thinking and talking about food all the time. In fact, though I didnā€™t care for it so much, he would do well to listen to the recent ketodudes podcast about the problems that women have in losing weight. Journal, journal, journal!


(Cathy) #42

I would suggest that Dr Fungā€™s bookings (so far into the future) are because there are so many people that are desperate to lose weight and get control of their metabolic disease. They are holding out hope that his program will help them. Lots of people seem not to be able to do it on their own. Maybe because it is vehemently opposed by the medical establishment and society in general.

I have not listened to the most recent ketodudes so not sure what the 'journal, journal, journal comment means. Perhaps you would be kind enough to elaborate?


This weekā€™s LLVLC episode with Mark Sisson
This weekā€™s LLVLC episode with Mark Sisson
(Norma Laming) #43

Why not listen to the podcast?


(Cathy) #44

I apparently have listened to all the podcasts so I guess I donā€™t know which one you are referring to and what the ā€˜journalā€™ reference is. Perhaps you could name the podcast?


(Mark Rhodes) #45

I believe it is simply to keep a food log. Jimmy was commenting recently with Mark Sisson that he was stalled and Mark tried to help him break Jimmyā€™s stall. Jimmy just eats Keto but does not log.

This is excellent advice and my experience. When I donā€™t feel right or I donā€™t achieve the results I think I should have the best place to start is not to change a thing and log for a week or two. Discovered too much xylitol in me makes a difference. Likely the insulin spike in response to sweet taste.


(Jase) #46

Looks like jimmy is winding up fasting talk- breaking news!!
Weā€™ll see what new project is around the corner. Looking forwards to it as FT was getting a little stale


This weekā€™s LLVLC episode with Mark Sisson