yea if it was JUST ourselves on plan, easy peasy for what we want but darn most of us have ‘others’ we gotta deal with LOL
I dealt wtih mine and darn if it wasn’t hard on many times thru my changes but I held firm and ‘they had to’ adapt around me a bit but heck it was super simple in their adaption around me in full truth. They never ‘gave up much’ ya know and I never felt any quilt in what little I asked when I did.
At least you realise that eating cookies is not harmless. That puts you miles ahead of the average Joe. Admitting to the addiction and knowing where the “worse and worse body hurt” comes from, puts you even further ahead. You can be proud of that by itself.
Now all that remains is staying on the tracks and ban the poison out of your world.
My personal view is…
No refined products. Never.
Eat only real food. If it didn’t have a mother its not real food, its candy and junk.
Eat to live, do not live to eat.
It schould only take 2 steps from alive to my plate. Factory food is a big NONO.
Humans are Carnivores at their core.
Eeeaa you catch my drift 
oh happy birthday to me. 59 today and I knew it was coming but forgot HAHA
going into the end of my 50s in better shape and hoping my 60s are stellar
It’s not necessarily bad 
I got desensitized to so many carby stuff just because I saw them every day for years
But yep. It has a downside too and probably a way, way bigger one in the beginning… Or in the middle for me. The beginning was super easy. First I went from high-carb to paleo and it was the easiest thing ever. Even when I went low-carb a month later (of course I automatically did high-carb paleo, it’s me), it was smooth and great (except I missed my usual amount of fat. I so loved fat but I had to stop overeating and on low-carb, I could. so I fought valiantly, it wasn’t very hard but I had to put efforts into it, for many years. maybe I always will tend to overeat fat off carnivore if I am not careful). Hardships came later. When years passed and I felt nostalgic, wanted to be more relaxed (just because I enjoyed low-carb and it was smooth, I made some tiny efforts and after years I wanted some chill…?).
I am lucky, actually. Alvaro isn’t choosy and can adapt. He works with zero meat and with meat almost every day (just very little. I am curious if he ever learns to eat a whole chicken leg or something). He eats desserts between 5 and 95% carbs, he doesn’t mind. And so on. He has some fixed points and they are mostly carby but it is easy to avoid serious problems.
Though I sometimes felt stressed at the time when our woe were the farthest from each other. He almost only ate vegetable dishes (2 course lunch? 2 vegetable dishes, of course) and I couldn’t afford such carby things (and I got hungry from veggies anyway. I just loved them but they didn’t work well). Eating the same dish almost every day was tricky, sometimes I wondered how I did it…
But we both can eat meat so it’s way easier now. He missed meat a bit before anyway. And now that we have it, he decided it’s wasteful to eat it every day (but probably does it at this point, I will take notes) and a chicken leg is 2-3 meals anyway… Oh well, it’s not my problem.
He stopped complaining about lard, by the way. So I always use that if it fits the dish 
I understand if someone may eat zillion things but they just WANT that one specific problematic one and I wouldn’t want to go between Alvaro and his heart’s desire, my woe and my personal hardships aren’t his responsibility and he shouldn’t suffer because of me (he wouldn’t anyway just like I wouldn’t avoid what I desire, we are similar at that). But if it’s not a real problem for him, that’s different. That’s why I consider myself lucky that Alvaro doesn’t really have these desires or they are towards dishes I don’t particularly want.
Brownies never caused problems. They couldn’t on keto and low-carb as we never ate carby ones. I have a lot of recipes and what he used as a staple all the time, I found bad. I had my own… Oh. I forgot I had that, it was ages ago… It was good and very eggy as I skipped all the butter and most of the chocolate from the recipe. Are all brownies that insanely fatty? It was horrible in its original state. Oh well, I don’t need such things now and Alvaro makes his own, carby and totally inedible ones. Or I make some low-carb thing that is edible but I have better food. So it’s all good.
I obviously don’t bake sugary stuff, I mean added sugar (and I learned to bake sweet stuff after I went low-carb so I haven’t even experiences with baking with sugar). When I went (almost) paleo for a while, Alvaro followed as best as he could so he cut out sugar immediately, among many others. I was spoiled. We had gluten free years back then too.
And if someone loved their bread… That was him. And he just gave it up for years, no problem. He replaced it with other carbs but still. Some people cry that they can’t eat gluten, it’s so horrible and rice flour is so very expensive (no. almond flour is expensive, about 10 times as much, I don’t know exactly but both are pretty much unnecessary IMO). Giving up gluten seems no big deal to me as long as we cook for ourselves, it’s surely trickier in some other circumstances.
More people should try to get out of their comfort zone (it’s easy for me as giving up sugar and gluten and much more was totally in my comfort zone. but during the years, I had my own hardships).
I wish if I met some different and better woe as a younger one too… But it could have been much worse.
Happy birthday, Fangs!
And I am really sorry I couldn’t stop writing again.
thanks all
but FB I expect to see ALL those steaks in my freezer by the end of the day right? that is what you intended?
Much sympathy SB. I am also off the carnivore wagon for the moment, sometimes life just overtakes intentions. I made mincemeat (a fruit based Christmas delicacy in the UK) because we are now planning to have some family members over at Christmas within the regulations and you have to do some festive recipes for such gatherings. I have now “tested” the product twice and eaten chocolate so planning to pick up the carnivore baton again in January or at least after the Christmas festivities (such as they are) have finished. This time of year makes me weary and somehow carbs help with that.
I think it’s the shortened daylight hours. December in my area (Virginia) tends to be gloomy: short days and cloudy. That combination usually makes me want to hibernate.
My Grammie was British, and used to make mincemeat. I do miss that. It was one of my favorites, moreso that pumpkin and apple.
Yeah, it has been ridiculously stressful lately- with so many demands on my time. I enjoy the work. but having said that, I used to be able to control my schedule more when I was strictly self-employed. Not having that much control anymore kinda gets in the way of my groove. Carbs never help to solve anything, and certainly do not bring me any comfort- given the amount of physical pain I’m feeling.
I hate to say it, but revisiting some of my earlier posts helps me. Re-living the extreme pain and heartache of my brother’s sudden and unexpected death reminds me of the all the reasons I embraced this way of eating to begin with. Nothing serves as a better reminder than that cold hard truth accompanied by the emotional gut punch.
@Fangs …
HAPPY FANGSDAY TO YOU!
HAPPY FANGSDAY TO YOU!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR FANGSY!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! 
Happy Birthday Karen!!
@Shinita I’m sorry Alvaro couldn’t come home
@SecondBreakfast you’re not starting over, you’ve learned and are growing from the experience!
I think I may have to give omad a short break through December. I keep eating my full meal and then having a snack later. It’s stressing me out. Or just stress is outing me lol. Today, I had a great meal of sirloin, tuna, hollandaise sauce, bone marrow, broth, pâté, jerky, butter, cheese and eggs. But today has been massively stressful and this evening I had a (unsweetened) yogurt and some butter. I honestly wasn’t all that hungry, but have been fighting mental hunger. Yesterday I overcame it but today I did not. I think the lack of any kind of sunlight, plus all the current world events and my world events is putting me into a little bit of a depression. I’ll get over it though.
Why wait Polly? Baton picking up, wagon reseating, horse catching are all easier the day after.
I am actually very interested as to why. 
Please, anyone? Or any links to this deferment behaviour. I’d love to know, as I get the same feeling when I muck up.
But I’m looking from a different side, I am 8 days back into carnivore, after mucking up in NoCarbvember. At the start of the 12 days of Carnivormas I was down in the dumps, carbodehydrated cravings crazy and not seeing how I could get up. But you lot were the wind beneath my chicken wings. Now I can feel a different type of dumpings. Can feel oxalate dumping starting. But the sweet cravings have subsided immensely. For about 3 days I crave the sweet thing that I ate or substitutes. But 3 days flies past in December. It’s the speediest month of the year. Those 3 days done and determination rekindles, I find.
On the 8th day of Octopus
My true love fed to me
A Netflix binge
And a sleep-in
Swimming with the Labrador
Hot sunny summer
A few little cravings
Due to excessive advertising
NoFun in the morning
3 egg omelette
2 stripes of middle bacon
4 slices cheddar
Cooked in last nights steak fat
Drinking lots of water
It’s now 6 hours later
Had a few sliced cheese cigars
That is Jarlsberg wrapped around pate (or smoked salmon)
Eye fillet ‘roast’
I’ll cut it into steaks
It’s 350g
That’s a bit over 12oz
5 Golden Rings!
Sleep is solid
I feel a bit sunburnt
Fasting glucose 100
That’s higher than I like it
But it’s just a spot check
Fasting ketones 0.3mmol/L
I am in ketosis
That’s why I can write these lyrics
And a car fridge in the pantry.
Missed one:
On the 6th day of Carbsless
My true love
Took me out for lunch.
Yes, Fangsy, it was a pre-birthday lunch (birthday tomorrow)
It was a gourmet farm and winery
A paddock to plate eating experience
The menu just tells you what you will be eating.
There are no choices.
It’s what is available and in season on the day.
We could hear the lambs bleating in the house paddock.
I do like meat with a handle
Lunch.
Yesterday my gut got infected with something disagreeing. Its like a war of the gut bacteria with growling included. I feel like I ate plants, of course I didnt.
Happy Fangsday! 
Fangsy!
