“Slaptember!” Challenge

(Edith) #41

@Fangs, I totally understand. It is so hard when you KNOW the answer and a loved one won’t listen. I have that problem with my dad. He’s 84 and all I can do at this point is try to keep him from having a slow, painful death due to malnutrition.

#42

and what fueled this was he wanted pancakes and went out for food to get: 2 monster pancakes, 4 bacon and monster side of hash browns and drenched it ALL in maple syrup and I have to hold my tongue on that and then he ‘needs to eat’ more sugar laden crap and ALL I HEAR lately is how crappy he feels.

His ‘early retirement’ job since we took early retirement from the farm and real jobs we had stuff…he has only gotten worse and on these drive trips for cars he got, he eats nothing but fast food all the time on the road, and he don’t do ‘as healthy’ as ya can in crap situations like that, he does all in JUNK

I am one step ya know…one step from batsh** crazy on him and he won’t know what hit him LOL but in the end what good?

thanks a monster ton everyone for listening…this ain’t a give advice and change a sugar monster at all what I am looking for…this is that acknowledgement of I deserve heathy change and not feel guilt or horror as one won’t come along IN ANY way with me ya know.

I just had to vent. I vented, feel better LOL cause ya’ll get it! I can chill more now as I screamed out the crazy of it all HAHA

(Kellyn ) #43

You just can’t change other people, as much as you want to. My husband still eats the SAD diet and drinks beer heavily all day. I was telling him about how much weight I have lost so far and he said he really need to start losing weight to. His idea of losing weight though is eating less, which never happens because by the end of the night he has drank so much that he starts eating pasta and cooking whatever else processed food we have in the house. He made cabbage soup recently, I think in an attempt to help him eat less during the day. :roll_eyes: He just doesn’t get it.
Needless to say, he is the one who is going to have to make the decision to start eating whole foods or realize that the way I am eating will help his health.
Fangs, you just keeping taking care of yourself. And we will be right here for you to vent to when needed. :hugs:

(Doug) #44

As it happens, nothing but hamburgers here yesterday and chuck roast today.

But I always felt bad about the old saying, “Slap you like a redheaded stepchild,” or “Beat you…” or “Smack you…” I pictured an adopted redhead reading that stuff and thinking, “Well damn, I’m doubly screwed…” :cry:

#45

The iron complex my doc has me on contains vitamin C so the iron absorbs better. Its like day and night when I take it, versus when I don’t. Love that stuff!

#46

I did. It is. I’ve had menorrhagia since I was 12. Tried all kinds of BC pills, etc. Absolutely sucks. This is just how my change in life is playing out. Not up for a hysterectomy…but it is tempting. LOL!

#47

Thank you KP cause with your hubby you understand how this all goes down. As I improve more and more and more he is sinking and sinking more and more. UGH but I love that I can vent here and while I know I can’t change anyone, needing to scream about it to those who get it helps me alot!!! Hugs for helping me!!

#48

yea yea I thought something like that too when FB was saying lets Slap the month HAHA too funny!
Ahh, a great chuck roast is a thing of beauty to me :slight_smile:

#49

I got me that feeling I just need to chill out a bit LOL

forget it all, change me and focus on what I can do and not pretend I can ever change other things that are very personal to others I guess?

Whew…some days guys ya know!!! Time to leave that all alone!!

#50

Sorry guys, I am here again.

Oh it sounds exciting :smiley:

Well, it’s sugar to me. I do eat fruits in fruit seasons but I can’t look at it as something oh so healthy and must eaten several times a day (wtf?) and a big amount is clearly a very bad idea, at least for me and many others. It’s some kind of sweets, the sugary kind, at that… I wonder what I thought about fruits in the past, probably something similar but I ate them in huge amounts sometimes (1kg in 30 minutes or 3kg in an afternoon is really not hard). They felt, well, natural enough but that’s it. No one ever persuaded me that fruits are needed. They were tasty and juicy, that’s it. The same with vegetables, they were among the tastiest, most tempting things ever so I ate them (and some other food to satiate my hunger too).

I am pretty good at not tasting what I cook, I made boiled millet, a millet dessert with raisins and chocolate, split peas and bread today, picked pears and cut up an injured one without tasting (new skill, I cut up ZILLION pears this year). It’s normal, no problem. I didn’t even notice I can do even the dessert without tasting, I used to taste it to check if it has enough lemon. But it’s an old beloved recipe at this point.
But when I am surrounded with fruits ALL the time… I have not much chance as I can’t bring myself wanting not to eat them, I just can’t see anything wrong with it despite the sugar. Fruits are special even if I don’t desire and need them anymore, just have them. It feels very weird, hopefully next year will bring changes and I reach some balance or something.

At least they don’t tempt me when I am hungry but I don’t want to eat my normal food I have. I had this today, I made so much carby stuff, I didn’t want to make some proper food for myself while already hungry. So I just ate simple things but I have my limit. Tomorrow will be fine and I learn not to neglect my own not every day dish for lunch. My “getting satiated with 3 eggs” phase is over, I need a substantial amount of food with variety (or not if there is something exciting and new but we don’t have that now. when I first ate a substantial amount of beef, I ate only that. and an egg yolk as it’s too weird not to eat eggs :D).

I don’t know what is the case with people and well, I can’t possibly know anything but well, my carni days are special right away… Booze is luxury, not needed and I lose the desire wanting interesting different kinds of food for the sake of it on carnivore. I mean, I have some proper food and I need some variety there but I don’t want the usual extra, crunchy snack (well I can have that), sweets, bread type thing, whatever… Booze is just another special luxury to me. So if I am perfectly satiated and satisfied, I don’t get this desire to have some. I start to eat a bit more carbs and my bigger need for variety comes back. So it makes sense to me that my already pretty low need for booze mostly turns off without carbs. Mentally, I probably will arrive to the point that I want some because why not but it’s not particularly important. Hard to say as it’s normal for me not drinking any alcohol for months. I just refuse giving up the right to have some if the fancy hits :slight_smile: Seriously, what harm could possibly cause my 18ml whisky? It’s the generous amount when I really try to spill a bigger amount. My alcohol consumption got quite weird since I went keto (and refused to give up my old favorite wine and it had a 20% sugar content but a super long shelf life due to it). But I still can drink 2 dl beer in one sitting, it’s just the harder stuff. Including wine :slight_smile:
Zero tolerance isn’t for me.

Of course I don’t drink on my short carni times, I can wait much more.

Yay!
It always was pretty obvious to me that my carnivore-ish may include some vegetables (a gherkin, a tiny tomato) and maybe other things but sweeteners are out. I don’t know why, I always ate sweets on keto, each and every day but it sounded a sound idea for carnivore-ish. And well, I don’t desire sweets on carnivore… So it was easy.

Sounds legit, I had some carni days and I started to dislike the bubble gum I found okay before… I hate most sweeteners so it was hard to find an okay one and I did it. Oh well, it’s not like I really needed the stuff…

Oh Fangs, it must be hard for you. It’s bad enough for me to think about Alvaro’s Mom with diabetes and heavy obesity but living with someone and seeing that they eat lots of sugar and it harms them… I can’t even imagine but it must be very hard and sad :frowning:

It wouldn’t be necessarily a bad idea, the biggest problem is that he doesn’t do it due to drinking… And probably the heavy drinking alone is a quite serious problem too :frowning:
Why would cabbage soup lower our calorie consumption? It never did in my household. It’s tasty, though, well, for the carb-lovers, it lost its charm towards me… I liked it before my flirting with carnivore when I was a huge veggie lover. It raised my calorie consumption as it had carbs that made me hungrier… I am no volume eater, I get satiated with fat and protein calories.

(Edith) #51

I already found today a little easier than yesterday.

This morning I had two eggs and roast beef fried up in suet. That lasted me many hours. I was hungry again mid afternoon, so I had a snack of roast beef cooked up in suet, just enough to tide me over until dinner since I wanted to eat with the family.

The dinner was roast beef with the suet again along with a salmon burger. I did put a little garlic aioli on the burger.

I thought was going to want to use seasoning on my meat, but I’m actually finding the salt tasty enough.

The challenge I was finding today was to not snack on processed meat like beef sticks or salami. That’s more of a habit than a craving. They’re just so convenient.

I’ve also given up Diet Coke for the 20th time. I think I’m a little more motivated this time, because I am doing it to support my husband. He gave up all alcohol and is particularly missing having a beer or four on the weekends.

(Edith) #52

I hope carnivore helps you out with this.

#53

I find pre-baking/ roasting a few kilos of salted chicken wings broken down (disjointed) into “niblets” make an excellent carnivore craving crusher. They just sit in a big container in the fridge. Any craving - go and grab a wing. It’s important, I think, to have these instantly available carnivore foods available during a challenge.

Back, before, as @Fangs predicted, I realised that I don’t drink anymore, I used to sip about 30mL of Grey Goose vodka. Now that sounds like a gangsta-rapper juice. But the thing that struck me was that it had flavours (like a really nice whisky). I used to regard vodka as pretty much ethanol. But it was surprising how taste appreciation changes on low carb eating, once all the sweet stimuli are put in the past. Now I find all the different flavours in water. I have the option for spring water, rain water, mains water, or bottled water. The tap rain water on a friend’s farm is so delicious that I bottle it to drink if I am in the city. The tap rain water from my own tanks is so pure but doesn’t have a twist of some minerality as the friend’s rain water.

I heard something about the benefits of using rendered suet as a tallow base in which to cook. Is it the fat from around bovine kidneys? It is something to do with an extra-long long chain fatty acid in that fat source that helps with human body fat loss (aka the Croissant Diet guy). Am I on the right thought track?

#54

@Fangs our loved ones will need us when they get properly sick. We all know that the person least listened to are the ones that are closest.

Ha, with my mum, she will show me a book or a TV show on better health and low carb eating and say that looks good. Even though I have been eating LCHF for 6 years and with her telling me I will get fat(ter)… still waiting for that prediction. But she sees me. She sees my energy. She sees that when I say I’m not hungry is because I am actually not hungry, not because will power is stopping me from eating crappy carbs.

There is more to communication than what is said. Only 20% of communication is through speaking, and that’s only if you are listened to. The rest comes from being present and being healthy.

(Edith) #55

Yes, I need to have some easy to eat snacks that are not processed.

As far as suet is concerned: yes, it is from around the kidneys, but I know nothing else about it’s composition.

#56

I think suet tallow is high in stearic acid. Ah, grass fed suet more so (just read the bottom link)

#57

Thanks for all for letting me scream a bit. I had to vent it out.

I am surrounded by sugar and more sugar like you would not believe. Just crappy eating all the time. My 15 yr old eats better than her Dad LOL at least I did put more LC ways in her life so I am happy on that, but my hubby, omgoodness he best come to the light. I mean he is only like 30 lbs gained but I swear he is heading into more and more down the line. He is just increasing sugar intake more and truly not giving it a thought, which at some point, I will again assert myself again and say COME ON! LOL

but right now…letting it all drop again, try to steal my nerves against the horrible food I see around here and just let it all pretend to me it doesn’t exist. Best I can do at this point, I mean I turn blind eyes all the time, then that one day, BOOM, Momma goes crazy over it HAHA

But I vented, I am over it. I will just move forward and close my eyes and keep on trucking :wink:

yesterday food was

2 beef tenderloin steaks
1 chicken breast
Big chunk of leftover pork roast

Off to mom’s house (she is 92 and raring to go) and off to take her shopping and have to stop for pool chlorine and then home later, when I get home I got a monster ribeye with my name on it :slight_smile:

Back to normal ZC programming now HA

(Liz) #58

This is what I am struggling with ! My mind is still getting adjusted to the idea of no calorie counting and eating til sated but I am getting better.Already feeling the bloating and inflammation are really lessening, able to take less painkiller which I really want to do. Sleep is improving, hip measurements down and half a pound gone on the scales…all giving me the reasons to stay zc.
Food wise today has been omelette stuffed with wonderful fatty pork salami and leftover pork belly on the side…I anm a happy old gal right now! Later I have lamb mince, 25% fat which is ready and waiting to devour with probably extra butter or dripping. So simple to cook and eat this way, loving the benefits and not missing dairy right now so onwards and upwards…hope everyone doing ok today :+1::handshake::crossed_fingers:

#59

Had a couple burger patties last night after work. Used the fresh beef, and was it ever tasty!!! The issue I have with getting my eats back on track is really centered on my work schedule right now. I don’t get hungry until around 11 or 12 each day, and can’t always take lunch or a break when I’d like to. If I’m in the stock room or behind the counter, that’s fine- I’m distracted enough to forget about it. But if I’m in the pharmacy, standing still counting pills and the tum tum starts grumbling, that’s another ballgame. Concentration is key in there- so - I’m trying to adjust my eats to accommodate that situation. Today, it means eating when I am not exactly hungry just to hold off the grumbles- until after I’m out of the pharmacy. Hoping to get my OMAD schedule back, and just eat a 6pm - 7pm window.

Got a 5day business trip in a couple weeks, so, perhaps by then I’ll have it under control. Got to get ready for work. We already lost power here from 530 to 8am. High winds are kicking in, so it will likely happen again.

On that whole hubby and family thing- oooooo - Been there, done that. Do I have the stories!!! LOL!
Hang in there. I don’t try to win all the battles, just so long I win the war. Hubby has kept off his 15-20 pounds after I challenged him to fast and to carnivore. If you have a competitive spouse, a good challenge or bet is a handy tool at affecting change in their diet.

#60

Interestingly went to 2MAD today with the omelette at 2pm and steak (with an egg) at 6pm.

It’s interesting because in August I set up the OMAD days for Tuesday and Wednesday. It seems my body is used that timetabling.

Omelette is 3 eggs + bacon + mackerel (tinned)

Had a coffee and a discussion about vaccination at the local coffee van.

The oranges remain untouched. I almost mindlessly ate a carrot. It was just there in the fridge. Almost.

I’ll get more chicken wings tomorrow.