First time trying brains (lamb). Fried them in bacon fat after cooking the bacon and eggs. Super fatty!!
Bought some other interesting offals as well. Will wait until I have pictures to share though.
OctCarniFest :)
OldDoug
(Doug)
#303
That - in my opinion - sounds quite similar to how itās used in the U.S. āNoshingā implies substantial action, like eating rapidly or forcefully. Rather a ānum num numā situation, if you will. If anything I think there is an implication (in the U.S.) of it being outside of regular meals, like appetizers, late-night snacks, etc.
Fangs
#304
yea I would get that your forward thinking would change a bit after a life scary issue like you experienced, ahhh, put that money into a beautiful garden and enjoy the heck out of it!! All those nice relaxing days enjoying your garden is key now to just give you a nice relaxing meditative type place to chill. Cool
-----------------for me I ate lighter yesterday
I did 4 thin cut pork chops, which I guess would equal too normal cut ones.
can of tuna with a big tablespoon of mayo
tin of sardines
never ate my steak. didnāt want it. had no desire for it. It is in the fridge and I know I need to eat it today. I canāt lose it but darn I hate when I defrost meats and then find out I have no draw to it but yes, first meal will be that steak to eat up.
then I got 6 big olā chicken wings going in the oven for more food if wanted.
I am hitting into āeating lighterā days right now. I feel it in my body. It isnāt āasking for any heavy meatsā at all. No draw to them mostly so I will go with the flow and eat as my body is directing and when it flips and tells me to hound down tons of dense meat and fat I will 
being we got colder temps now I woulda thought I would go into heavier eating cause of hibernation type effect type thing, but nope, no needing alot right now and I only eat when hungry soā¦I will just go with the flow of it all and let carnivore show me the way.
Rock on hardcore carni now for the end of the month!!
Azi
(Linda )
#305
I got hungry last night about 5.30 so I cooked up 12 jumbo shrimp.
Todays food sirloin steak and 2 eggs I weighed my steak after I cooked it this morning 9.3 ounces probably why I got hungry yesterday lol since I only ate one steak split into two meals with eggs then the shrimpā¦ so I cut back an egg down from three to two.and ate the whole steak not just half. So we will see how that goesā¦
I might take out some bacon and have bacon and eggs later and save my last sirloin from the pack for tomorrow ā¦
With the soaring meat prices I figure throwing some eggs into the mix is a cheap way to help stretch the meat out a little I ate eggs every day on keto, and never really had much interest in them since starting carnivore except the odd meal my husband would cookā¦so its been a nice change
DIYGURL
(Traci Simpson)
#306
Funny! I cooked a āpoundā of ground bison, which turned out to be 12oz after I cooked it. Eat all that with about t TSP of cream cheese, and another 3 oz of roast for lunch around 10:45AM. For dinner I had 2.5 hotdogs with a few chunks of melted cheese around 6:30 or so. I was not that hungry but I knew if I held off, Iād be really hungry probably around 8:30 which is just too late for me.
Fangs
#307
yea I get this. Alot of packages of meats in the store are smaller cuts than us carnivores want but darn sometimes you gotta buy what is there. I find alot of my steaks fall into that 10-11 oz size in packages. They really are not enough, I feel ya on that!
-------------WELL DARN
I defrosted my wings thinking it was all wings, but darn somehow I packaged 2 darn legs in that freezer pack. I am not a legs person, but yes I am going to eat them but darn, I will thru that meal say, darn I shoulda have 3 more wings instead of these 2 darn legs HAHA
Man I am picky!
oh wellā¦eat what ya got putting in oven to be ready for later when I want them fast. I will first eat my, hmmm, like 10 oz NY Strip steak first meal tho.
Septimius
#308
Argh, apologies for the nosh discovery for you all.
The worst part is that a blokeās junk is also sometimes referred to as āmeatā.
So meat noshināā¦ I would not have kept a straight face opening this thread for the entirety of the month. 
FrankoBear
#309
Thanks for the tip off to look at fibromyalgia. Mrs. Bear looked into it and my combination of symptoms do fit a diagnosis. But they fitted into some other things as well. Iām going to another doctor tomorrow as I had a very sore morning this morning where I couldnāt even drive my car. There will be more tests to do as we rule out some more things.
I think a low carb healthy fats diet is a good foundation treatment for fibromyalgia. I am pursuing a slower pace of work than I usually do at this time of year and have been absenting myself from unimportant meetings and sitting in the sunshine with a coffee, meditating on wind and bird noises, and chatting to the Labrador.
Staying on plan with a fattier carnivore eating plan.
Shinita
#310
I would give 10000 useless wings for a single leg 
But only if itās some tasty fowl, not the usual one.
I am back. I learned about my current abilitiesā¦ I am pitiful but at least all the apples couldnāt tempt me, I tasted none during my visit and the way back home. The car smelled wonderful and Alvaroās oatmeal will get its fruits for a long, long while.
The food was okay though these thicken thighs werenāt as good as my memories about the other ones. But itās possible I had so much enough of chicken at this point. I only ate a few.
It was good to bring my own meat (pork, obviously) and eggs though I only ate the sponge cakes with some soup, not the boiled eggs.
I obviously went astray at nearly full speed, hopefully I will lose that at some point, stupid compulsions. But the food tasted good, I feel pretty good and I managed to keep my OMAD! Thatās very useful (quite needed) but seemingly fully automatic now if carbs are present. I had a too early dinner and a too early lunch, I mean, I wasnāt quite hungry yetā¦ But they gave me long-lasting satiation, food was completely out of question!
I still ate so much better than many people, obviously, I focused on meat and eggs, after all just with more extra than usual.
I ignored the vegetables as well but itās not a new thing.
Oh the beef soup, they were a tad surprising. It shouldnāt have, I saw recipes, it was normal. We just use way more meat in itā¦ (I saw meat soup recipes in the cookbooks, more about the books laterā¦ Using 300g beef. For a soup for a family! I get it that itās just soup but we donāt even start to make soup with such a tiny meatā¦)
I plan some relaxed days quite close to carnivore (that I donāt call carnivore-ish as my carnivore-ish bans almost everything, itās not just about amounts) and then the strictest thing I am able to do in the beginning of November. Maybe I even try the water only challenge for a short time, at least before my first mealsā¦ That would be a big thing for me!
I opened my last bag of cream, Alvaro will help with it as 2.5dl is a huge amount, it wouldnāt be good to eat it all this week! We still have some whipped cream box if Alvaro needs them for his dessert here and there (but itās never vital for him), they tastes a bit worse but their shelf life is extremely long. I only use cream in my coffee but thatās so little per day (and not even needed) that it makes little sense to buy cream often. Itās lovely here and there but not all the time as I did it this year. I want changes.
My woe must have changed Alvaro, he bought some sausage in the shop yesterday I donāt remember him ever doing anything like thatā¦ He was very receptive when I wanted dry sausages from the pig farm shop, he was eager to get some but initiating the transaction all by himself? Thatās new! 
He likes and often eats his scrambled eggs with sausages now. Bresaola works too but the pork jowl is some creepy fat mass to him. I bought a little again, itās so useful 
Oh I spent a big part of my time reading cookbooks at my aunt. Those old ones with lots of other things in it. I was curious how different people thought about nutrients and the right feeding of a sick/diseases one especially someone with diabetesā¦ And what other things changed during the last more than one century. Well the most modern one was fromā¦ 1969 at most, whatever, I have some idea about the modern attitude as well.
It was interesting. And I soooooo donāt agree with the famous ladies stating that things must be done this way and something is tasteless (whatās wrong with lace curtain in the kitchenā¦? of course I have those, tiny ones on the top of the windows so I can enjoy the beautiful view too, like the summer lilac with butterflies and hummingbird hawk-moths!)ā¦
For some reason, people with fever was told to consume a ton of milk. Like, 1-2 liters every day. I know nothing about feeding feverish people but it sounded excessiveā¦ The oldest book (1916) was quite odd, it seems people drink booze and milk then and not waterā¦ Booze EVERYWHERE! Like in the milk if the sick person hates it. Add some cognac and they will love it, she wrote. 2 liter milk with a lot of booze, I am not sure itās so great for a sick one but I am no expert.
Only the old book had this booze obsession. The world changed tremendously after WW2 especially here. Wealthy people with lands and servants disappeared and people did something they called socialism, I never figured out what that could beā¦ Whatever.
Most of the dishes stayed the same, though, eating isnāt something people change easily, traditions are strong there. Though the seed oil and margarine consumption got quite strong, thatās about the only big difference I saw. The newer book extremely strongly encouranged seed oils, it seems that was the time when people still used lard for cooking. I mean, that was the norm as no one can ever take lard from Hungarians (the book wrote itās the main traditional fat for Hungarians, butter for French and mutton tallow for Brits). But itās not that widely used now. Fortunately super fatty pork is still extremely popular and is everywhere. I canāt be happy enough about that since I learned (a few years ago) that one canāt buy fatty meat anywhere in some countries. I canāt even imagine why and how that works.
The old book obviously was all for animal fats, what else? And there was all the boozeā¦ They wrote a lactating mother should drink only a little alcohol, not a ton as it was COMMONā¦ They wrote a 2-4 years old kid shouldnāt get coffee or beerā¦
And that diabetics canāt live without drinking alcohol during and after meals. Like, all the timeā¦ I never ever saw such an idea for diabetics. The old book considered the only proper woe for them being some slightly weird ketovore with lots of booze (not too carby ones, of course). Or I donāt know how should I called it as the ingredients were a bit oddly handled. Liver and nuts were considered a bit too sugary so one should be carefulā¦ But all the not super carby ingredients (the very high-carb ones should be all banned) are fine in moderation. So a little fruit is fine while liver should be limited. I had a hard time to imagine getting dangerously much sugar from eating liver before I simply gave it upā¦
So. Diabetics should eat mostly fat and protein, fatty animal protein sources are precious etc. But as eating fatty meals cause discomfort that only a glass of booze can sooth, this woe requires not too shy drinking at all mealsā¦ Even healthy people want booze after a fatty meal, she wrote. Alvaro and I didnāt get the memo, it seemsā¦ I have exclusively fatty meals and I think about booze maybe once a month and I either forget to act on it or not. I donāt feel I am special because of thisā¦ Okay, I obviously know I am notā¦ So this was super odd!
Same book as the more modern one talked little about not healthy peopleā¦ Fat ones (itās the simplest way to use a simple short word for overweight/obese/etc. ones and I couldnāt care less about oversensitive ones, my country doesnāt do that so excessively)ā¦ They should eat less, move more and SLEEP LESS according to the book. That was new too, I heard the opposite but this? She picked 4 vegs and 4 fruits and they are fine, ALL the others make one fatā¦ It so doesnāt work that way but whatever. I will continue sleeping 7 and something more hours at night
The āoh I wanna lose fat so I eat salads and low-fatā started with the more modern book, it seems. The old one talked about reducing carbs and sugary booze.
And I forgot the details but it was against eating salads for some group too. Never ever saw such things from some popular mainstream author beforeā¦
There were some oddities. Sour cream banned - but cream is all fine. Lean meat only, almost no added fat - except butter, that can be used galoreā¦ Well at one point there was limitation on butterā¦ It shouldnāt be too much, 50-100g per day is enough Yeah, I would think 100g butter is enough for most of us Itās quite excessive for me but thatās me, I get my fat from elsewhere.
Butter was a darling in the books especially in the old one. Itās allegedly easy to digest. They were big on giving the sick easy to digest food but what is that, that was super complicatedā¦ I donāt know much about these, I just follow my body. I have this problem with the ālight/heavy foodā people tends to say nowadays. I feel drastically different dishes light and heavy than othersā¦
Only the modern one had some specific ideas about ideal weight and ideal macros. Obviously both were off, we canāt just say a single number for everyone with the same gender, age and height. But still, I would imagine they had some statistics. No way universtity students needed 3350 kcal per day in averageā¦ It was a modern book so the macros were miserably carb-heavy. No idea what is the recommended fat intake now, never cared about it as it had nothing to do with me, the book gave about 75g fat for everyone and only the minority of it should be animal fat according to them. Some cute amount of protein, usually 100g or more and the rest carbs. Considering what the uni students got as energy needā¦ It wasnāt pretty in my eyes even if I vaguely compared it with my massively overeating high-carb times. I doubt I could go that far with carbs. The heavy physical workers got 650g or something? The uni students 410ā¦? I am sure most of them can survive it just fine, some can even thrive on it, I donāt want to say much just that it was already scary to meā¦ Unfair to compare those carbs to ours, I know that as we always ate high-fat. We canāt do a HCLF day. Being forced onto it, it sounds very tragic.
And people learned from these books that they MUST eat everything. Not just carbs (and vegs and fruits, I saw the hype again, of course, itās quite sad. effective too, I am sure many people believe only they have vitaminsā¦ people believe even more stupid things, after all), one book wrote that baked goods with yeast is a MUST for everyone, itās part of the healthy woe, period. What.
I didnāt want to make a thread for this so I wrote this here.
Karen18
(Karen)
#312
Lads finished off the back today. I now have to paint exterior extension walls and shed and then start popping some colourful plants into the mix. Its all very hardscape and nothing else at the mo. But I feel very relaxed knowing I donāt have to worry about the brambles and ivy breaking through. Iām sure some will try but at least I should be able to control it now.
I also took a ride on the bus into local town to do banking and little stroll around. I went on my own which is the first time on my own since the stroke. Felt good but I only managed about an hour and a half before I could feel I was flagging and the groggy headache was coming on. I did have back up, my son in law was at the ready if I felt I needed a lift home 
love him to bits.
Returned home for a brew and then got on with putting the left over slabs in and behind the shed and had a little rummage in the skip to see what else I could salvage before the skip gets collected. I do have a serious problem in letting go of things that may come in handy.
Brunch was sautĆØd chicken and cheese.
Dinner was 2 big burgers with some grated cheese on top. They were nicer than the beef patties yesterday.
Fangs
#313
Cool. Your changes are quietly being seen and set into him, love he is bringing home the meats!
yea so much wild unreal info out there. Everyone the expert on what another should eat for best survival based on? Not a darn real science fact in truth LOL crazy times we are in and darn if this isnāt about all issues thru our lives.
@Carnivoor
dark restaurant or not, I sure can tell those steaks are juicy and niceā¦yum
@Karen18
happy you got out and about and thrilled you listened to your body and didnāt push it. Sounds like you are getting back to more normal routine now!
------------------SO MY chicken was wonderfulā¦wings were better than those legs but I woofed them down.
I ate them first. Had 0 desire for that steak. huh
then I ate a can of tuna with some mayo in it.
then I ate 6 slices of salami
I did not want that steak. I donāt know why but I have 0 interest toward beef right nowā¦but I did this before when I went off beef for a whileā¦but my focus is on freakinā chicken right now? WTH? I donāt know LOL
I have 2 nice sized country pork ribs to defrost to cook for first meal laterā¦then I have some chicken breasts I am gonna fry up in some yummy butter and just hound them down.
that steak I do believe will become the dogās steakā¦lucky dog!
Finish off strong carnivore for Oct everyone!
Azi
(Linda )
#314
I ended up having a third small meal of 12 jumbo shrimp but the dogs love them too so I had to share little bits with themā¦
First meal today was a sirloin steak 2 eggs im out of eggs so ill grab some in a bit will need dog food anywayā¦
Fangs
#315
you are rockinā how you need to get thru your day.
I also focused on seafood as āthat extraā meal without being heavy fat laden to nourish me and make me happy. Seafood is way underrated in carnivore plan I feelā¦but it might be cause most donāt need it at some point cause the heavy meats float their boat and give them all they need, but darn, when ya need it and are flipping around and trying some adventure in your eating, seafood and fish were a big go to for meā¦well fish not so much, but seafood, darn delish!
your dogs got some shrimp, mine will be getting that steak I left too long in the fridgeā¦darn our pets must love us to the max 
Fangs
#316
omg I got my 2 monster sized pork ribs in the oven.
the smell
I am SO waiting. OK OK I can wait.
what is it about meat in the oven just waffing over us to make us drool?
I donāt know but I love it
robintemplin
(Robin)
#317
Sorry @Fangsā¦ couldnāt hear you over my own drooling from imagining those ribs roasting in my oven! I need a very nice neighbor who is also keto or carnivore and likes to actually cook and is very generous and shares. I might be willing to move.
Fangs
#318
well I hate cooking, my my fast fry eat or steam up seafood or oven out massive ribs, yea I can just do that!
I just took a nibble off one corner rib, just tender, but a tiny bit more heat to make it all in, massive inhale of delish pork meat and the juicy fat I love to go with it.
and yea the house still smells so darn great
I tell ya when carnivore is good it is OH SO good to us LOL just thru my oven doing the work
Redrobins
(Heather)
#319
I havenāt posted for quite some time, but I have still been following the thread.
@Karen18, glad to hear you are on the mend following your scary stroke ordeal. It is such a God-send to have people to help you out in such a time of uncertainty.
@Azi I was especially interested in following your 3 day low fat cycling. Did you happen to track your macros when you were doing that? I only ask because I have found (purely out of curiosity) that I hover around 69% as my average for fat intake per day. I read āDanaās Zero Carb Get Lean Macro Formulaā that @Fangs posted, and I just canāt seem to get my fat intake average higher overall. My calories hover around 3,000 per day, with no weight gain.
I cut my strength training exercises to 2 days per week, instead of every other day, like I was doing before. I was just feeling so wiped out and tired all of the time. Iām still struggling with water retention in my legs, so Iām working to cut out the boneless skinless chicken breast Iāve been eating daily. It has 15% broth solution, so Iām sure that is the culprit. My legs also retain water from the weight training. I feel like itās a neverending battle. 
I would really like to get rid of the flab on my thighs and stomach and drop another 15 pounds, but it doesnāt seem to matter what I do, it never budges. I know I need to stay off the stupid scale, but Iām such an addict with it. I just need to focus on my health and stop with the vanity side of things.
Azi
(Linda )
#320
Try doctor berries beef butter bacon and egg challenge that might up your fatsā¦
No I didnāt do macros dr cywes doesnāt use those but lean days I went with lean lean meatsā¦fat meat days fatty as I couldā¦but I was really hungry so be prepared to eat moreā¦now im cycling in medium fats and extra meals low fatā¦I dropped 2lbs so far but will it hold lolā¦
