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YOUNG CARNIVORE so this shows us life will get forward and our health and research can thrive 
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MOOvember Carnivore
Fangs
#64
robintemplin
(Robin)
#65
@MeganNZ⊠Oh, those parking lot eating frenzies!
Always hoping no one would see me.
Mostly eating my own shame.
Kinda nice to remember from whence we came, isnât it?
robintemplin
(Robin)
#66
Mr Bear, thanks for sharing that. A bench is such a great idea.
I imagine your dad saying, âHey son, have seat and tell me whatâs on your mind.â
Glad Mrs. Bear is better. And love the photo. Looks like a bungee jumper. Wheeeee!
Karen18
(Karen)
#67
Well here we are early evening again, where do the days go? ⊠and of course the nights are drawing in. Fireworks going off al round. I used to nip upstairs for a front seat viewing in the warmth and usually we could add the dry hahaha but it isnât raining at the mo and the pops and bangs and weeeeez are going on around the locality but I canât really be fussed to go upstairs to watch it all from my bedroom window. I must be getting drab and boring and and bit of a stick in the mud lol ⊠dont care lol I am sitting with a nice hot water bottle on my lap under my blanket 
Usual brew n read first thing but in the lounge as it started raining a tad bit outside. Then went to the gym and did a lower body workout before coming home to make a cheese omelette which was nice. I out some lamb chops in the slowcooker and they were ready about 3pm after I had had a mug of Bovril. They were tasty too. Had a bit of cheese to munch on also.
Felt like the cough has really eased off today so feel I am really at the end of it thankfully. Cant grumble albeit was a bit nasty I never felt ill or feverish with it. Thankful for small mercies.
Went up and caught the remnants of some fireworks in the distance and a cool moon moody sky to share with you all.
Shinita
#68
First not smooth day. I mean I had this âwhat on Earth should I eat?â thing again (but it wasnât that very hard to figure it out). Maybe I overdid pork (maybe not but I still need a break), yeah, I badly need OMAD⊠But it didnât happen today so obviously I went up to 3 meals as 2 is just impossible for me. But I care more about my macros. They are shrouded in mystery as I had soup and bacon ends
Lunch. The soup wasnât enough in the end so I had sponge cakes with cheese (can I call them cheese sandwiches? they are that and itâs shorter) as well. That did the trick.
Dinner. After the soup with chuck pieces I didnât want meat so I made scrambled eggs with bacon. I ate the eggs and left the bacon (except a few pieces) as it was so horribly salty. I will need 1-2 eggs for every 10g bacon or something. Even trying to ignore the bacon pieces, I needed a lot of sour cream with it to lower the saltiness. Not a creamy sour cream, I will mix it with yogurt if I will have yogurt. I visit the village in Monday so I will do a tiny shopping.
And then I couldnât get satiated for long so I ate around 8pm too, twice. I made some quick cheese sauce using Gouda (as I dislike grating cheese but grating a hard one? nope, I will ask Alvaro tomorrow) and sour cream (as I had that but cheese and sour cream is a very traditional combo anyway) and butter, of course. Or not of course, no idea what is cheese sauce normally is from, I barely ever see such things in my life and never made any. It was lovely, I ate it with sponge cakes.
And then I got hungry again and ate a slice of pork chuck roastâŠ
I had 10 sponge cakes today. Sigh. I need to make another batch tomorrowâŠ
And I will focus on eggs and non-pork meats. Chicken liver is defrosting (just a tiny help⊠bacon is very fatty anyway) but turkey comes next! Itâs so very different from pork, I may get bored of all pork, I still welcome turkey. It probably helps that I donât have it very often.
Guesstimation says 137g protein and probably more fat. I am cold 
When I couldnât take a cold shower using the HOT tap (it gets lukewarm after minutes, cold until then but not as cold as using the cold tap, that wouldnât be much over 10C) and was super cold sitting in 18.3C fully dressed (I use 2 warm socks now), I wondered about the animals who canât be such a princess⊠If life gives them soaking rain in 1C, they need to handle it. Of course I would handle it too if I had no way out but I would be SUPER miserable.
Tomorrow we will take a long walk (unless there will be rain), bake things and decide when to turn on the A/C. I guess 3 hours a day should be enough for now. Heating season, we canât avoid it anymore.
Alvaro cooked various carbs over open fire today, I helped to feed the fire. It behaved less well as usual and that says something. I breathed way too much smoke in the process. Thujas burn in a fun way and in the end there was darkness, beautiful fire⊠And smoke.
I wondered, not for the first time if we will have the wood from the rebuilding of the house (maybe 11 years ago?) 50 years later. We just canât burn it in any decent pace as SOME trees are always need to be cut out in the garden. And itâs a small one! With very many trees, I actually like that⊠Oh well. The small but still not very small branches rot in many years and I can use it for the soil⊠My veggie/flower patch (with a wild walnut tree that appeared there) needs it. This will be the year when I use that crumbled-away branch material from next the terrace! If itâs bad English, sorry, I canât figure it out now.
I start to use the small thorny branches to make better soil too. We cut up the big ones but it would be super much work to do it with the small ones. They prick me more than enough already anyway.
But burning the thuja branches are fun I like the effect of pines too But our pines are thankfully very healthy, we only cut off a few branches here and there.
Karen18
(Karen)
#69
Even got my own personal show. The pub across the road from me were setting their display off from their roof.
FrankoBear
#70
Not sure about my blood glucose monitor. It gave me readings of 8am fasting glucose between 6.0 - 7.2 mmol/l over four tests (108 - 129) from the same blood drop site. They are all too high for my liking. Fasting blood ketones are 0.2mmol/l.
I tried something last night that worked. After noticing that I have been eating for comfort after work stress, I ate a smaller steak. It was enough. Now I am at home and more relaxed with time I can check in on myself. Still 2MAD. Had quite a physical day outside yesterday. Felt it last night in muscle use soreness. But this morning Iâm feeling good. Could do it all over again.
This is a forest red-tailed black cockatoo. They are going extinct. I try to not let that happen by planting habitat trees.
carnivoor2
(Vic)
#71
Its pouring rain here at home.
Today Iâm going to Spain for a small project.
Vacuum sealed meats ready to go.
Planning to eat raw and simple for a week, it freeâs up time so I can be more productive.
Aiming to free up some time so I can spend it in Nature walks.
Fangs
#72
@Karen18
love fireworks. what holiday or event was this to warrant such nice fireworks?
@carnivoor2
Safe travels to Spain!!
Pouring rain here also!
-------------------fast post
big rain here. gray ick dayâŠblah
off to store for kiddo needing some stuff in a bit.
home for some chores to handle
got chuck roast on sale so I did get a few but think I will hit store again and buy a few more. Weather getting cooler now so I can oven roast in my dutch oven a big olâ roast and eat on it for a few days. yea forward thinking on that one.
simple food day. beef and chicken and pork, whatever I desire but some pork chops are sounding fine as first meal later.
ZC!
Shinita
#73
And I got hungry again. And again. Now I am unsure what is the problem. Not having a big meal or not having enough meat during the day⊠I had plenty of energy and protein, I am sure that was enough. Maybe the unusually huge amount of cheese messed with me (I didnât want meat and had cheeseâŠ). I donât know. Oh well, I keep trying to do things right and hopefully I will figure out things
But isnât it stupid to have problems with the amount of meat when I ate very, very much meat in the previous days? And I had other protein sources? And meat too just less than normal.
Probably the cheese and the too small meals, I suppose. But they werenât even really small
Next week is no cheese unless I REALLY need it for some reason. But why would I? I have options.
So, yesterday was about 5MAD (my 4th meal had a half hour break in it so maybe 6? doesnât matter).
Very, very unreliable guesstimation says 185g protein and 200g fat. I didnât even walkâŠ
The pork at night felt very good. I USUALLY try to make sure I have a pound of meat in my first meal (at least being there and I eat as much as I want) but the soup just made it impossible yesterdayâŠ
Oh well, new day, new experiments! 
Even if I donât have an explicit experiment for today. I just baked 12 new sponge cake muffins and fried 500g chicken liver (with bacon fat. I mean, the fat tissue part, my liver has tiny bacon fat cubes now). I was supposed to have a decent amount of leftover pork chuck but I jumped it at night (I tried not to, I ate various other things first but I was still unsatisfied and unsatiatedâŠ) so I only have a bit and some more in the soup. It should be a nice day eating wise.
We had a tiny rain and started to heat the house. After airing it was 17C downstairs. 35 minutes later I turned off the A/C, it works quickly, it was 20C Thatâs 68F, apparently, I was in the mood to look it up. We never kept that a warm house before the A/C as it wasnât actually needed but this thing is very effective. Normal, inside heaters have only 100% efficiency, the A/C in this not very cold weather is nearly at its best, whatever that is but the number is way way higher. And itâs good as we wouldnât fit into our electricity quota otherwise, itâs an unfair system, people heating with electricity must use a tiny fragment of energy to get the low price compared to people heating with gas or wood. Even though electricity is way more expensive so people only use electricity if their heating need is small or they are rich and doesnât care (though wasting money isnât the way to get and stay rich⊠and one canât ever be rich enough for this, the money can be spent way better), it surely cause a sudden problem for manyâŠ? I think so.
Itâs so good every power meter gets its own quote, we would be in trouble otherwise. Going over the quote raises the electricity price significantly but it makes the gas price MANY times more (just for the out of quote amount), that must be toughâŠ
We are fine only because we have a VERY well insulated small house with an A/C and we donât need a really warm house. And we are 2 persons. And cats. Everybody is a small heater, I think a human is 100-120WâŠ? Surely it varies more but somewhere around that.
Karen18
(Karen)
#74
It was Guy Fawkes Night 5th Nov.
This was my daughters view from the window of her new house over the big park where they always have a big display.
Shinita
#75
Wow. You have a holiday for such a thing? Itâs always some big revolution or our very first and very important saint king or something here. (We had a few Soviet Union holidays, now we celebrate the 1956 revolution⊠It was tiny and without a war unlike the 1848 one but still. Hungarians always rebel after a while. People like to be free. The heroic attempts never were successful but itâs better than just suffering silently even though the punishment is severe. People showed they have their own will and it actually influenced later happenings for the betterâŠ)
I have just learned Australia has holidays for sport days⊠(And they had various Queenâs Birthdays in various states.)
Interesting what different countries have as holidaysâŠ
Fangs
#76
@Shinita
it is very normal for nutritional aspects to switch around on carnivore.
some times we need tons as the body wantsâŠnow if YOU know this is not emotional eating thru stress or some comfort food hungerâŠif real hunger just hitting ya then eat carnivore. It is okâŠcause before ya know it things change again.
I was eating tons, eating nothing hardly, eating middle, eating omad, eating 2 meals a day then back to grazing all day long zc and then I was back to didnât wanna eat much and did fine then 'feed me Seymour NOW! person HAHA
Just eat as needed if hunger is real. the body repairs demand that we do this but once we get the hormones and metabolism more stable and nutrients in the body and vitamins being absorbed well thru the healing, then the body âhits a more setâ point for us zcâers. Then we kinda fall right where we need to be. Most of on plan longer eat 2 times per day and if we make meal 1 our âgreat mealâ and eat ALL we need comfortably then meal 2 can be our âwhatever we feel we needâ meal to get the entire day handled til tomorrow.
this is where just trust the zc processâŠbelieve me it shows you just the path ya need.
@Karen18
NOW WAY KâŠthat is wild. never heard that one LOL
Any reason to just hit the pub, blow off explosives and party up and celebrateâŠ???..darn great holiday! I would be right there partyinâ up and at that bonfire! Cool
Karen18
(Karen)
#77
Haha it isnt a holiday, if it landed on a mid week day it wouldnât be a national day off but it was a very big milestone in our history.
@Fangs yep the brits love a booze up and really donât need any excuse lol. At the official firework display site there is usually a massive bonfire which they have to poke about with prior to setting alight in case there are any little critters nesting inside (take a number of days to build it) and the kids used to go round the houses with a Guy they had made, dressed in rags wheeled in a barrow, collecting pennies for the Guy. Bit like Americaâs Halloween trick or treaters that our country has adopted. Been a tradition for many many years.
Shinita
#78
@Karen18: Oh I get it now. Still unusual to me as we only have âproperâ, day-off holidays and only a very few of them can possibly have fireworks. Only 20th of August and 31th of December (okay, that one is a workday - but many people donât work between Chistmas and New Year because their workplace is closed down then - just like 24th of December that is totally the only Christmas Day for me⊠but 25th and 26th are the off days. but the firework happens late and the next day is a holiday).
And I never heard about Bonfire day and the kids with their Guy⊠Itâs good to learn things.
@Fangs: I know it may happen and I actually wondered about it but I seriously doubt my body needs this much food now. That would be more consistent and I would feel itâs the case I suppose. I am sensitive to timing or more like the size of meals and not satiating items can balloon my energy intake needlessly, I experienced that many times before. if I choose the right items and donât get hungry unusually early or get satiated way too quickly, I typically am fine without eating a ton. I donât think I ever possibly need this much food unless of course if I am more active or I ate low in the previous days. I even understand my body wants much meat after low-meat times. But now? I surely messed up something as itâs not right. And I definitely HATE eating âall dayâ, being hungry a lot, not feeling quite right, convenience ruined⊠It is definitely wrong and I will figure it out and solve it. I donât like wasteful eating, I did it too much in my life But I definitely not worry that I eat too much protein or fat and it does bad things to me. Apart from the annoyance, inconvenience and keeping me from losing fat I eat okay food and my body stops me if I go too far but itâs still not ideal yet.
Today was better, no wonder, I donât have 2 quite high-cal days in row on carnivore. I think I am done with the day now. 2 hour eating window, 2 meals I was satiated for quite long and could eat a decent sized meal. My 2nd meal was smaller, I didnât really want food but I knew I needed more and it was dinnertime (and I was hungry 10 minutes before, that mattered too. I went downstairs and it disappeared. but I didnât care at that point). I just ate some leftovers I didnât mind. And made another cheese sauce with sour cream (oh I have read about sour cream. the article said the Brits has âsour creamâ at 12-16% fat only while ours must be over 16. there is a low-fat stuff with 12% but it apparently canât be called âtejfölâ, our word for sour cream. and indeed, itâs soured cream, from the top of the solidified milk, it was a very popular dish before, the whole solidified milk, I mean, whatever is the term for it. we use the word sleep in it :)). Using the aged cheese, partially. Nope, I strongly prefer the young Gouda. Maybe Alfredo sauce has enough cream to balance out the strong flavor but my creation with less and sour cream, that had a too strong flavor.
I might be unusually sensitive to cheeses with a strong flavor, I do like them but I canât eat them normally, only morsels. I have this with blue cheese too.
I ate some bacon end pieces today. I wonât buy it anymore, itâs horribly salty, no matter what I eat it with, itâs suffering. One package of sliced bacon for crunch per year should be enough for meâŠ
I ate some liver but got bored of it in no time but itâs only 500g, super easy to eat in a few days even a little at a time and Alvaro will help. Then I will wait for some weeksâŠ
Tomorrow is turkey day so it will be delicious. Hopefully I wonât miss my proper pork, I donât have any now. So I will experiment to figure out if turkey as my main meat can possibly work or not⊠
I have processed pork and liver so it wonât be just turkey but I like to pair it with some substantial meat, pork or ruminant meat, I know that works.
But we will see.
I donât know which pork slab I will choose next⊠But probably the one I had the longest time ago. Pork shoulder! With some leaner stuff with it. I will be careful. Or I will be wild and curious. Or I will do OMAD so I wonât eat 1000g of it again⊠I should learn to handle pork shoulder as I surely wonât resist the super sales in the future either⊠I donât remember if my shoulder overeating days had low-meat times before them, quite possibly⊠But itâs still a tricky item as I canât eat that much of any other meat, not even my favs. They are more satiating - and how crazy is that a fatty pork satiates me less per weight than a leaner one?
But maybe I changed. Maybe my very meaty current days make a changeâŠ
Too many factors change all the time
I will track tomorrow. Who knows if I will eat later? But I will do my best not to.
Naghite
(Michael)
#79
Not enough fat in my diet yesterday, so had an early breakfast with 1.5 oz of suet as part of the meal
Shinita
#80
And I tried to plan a day⊠With the turkey wing⊠I added all the bacon and extra fat I could and it still was like 70g fat⊠That wouldnât work. Maybe I get out the pork shoulder earlier. I am simply doomed without fatty meat. Wow. I never knew this before as I never liked leaner meat enough to eat it galore (or it simply came with enough fat, I only lately could buy those lovely turkey wing bases but they barely have any skin on).
Wait, I have some fatty pork skin in the fridge tooâŠ
Itâs good I plan, I automatically would eat something with a very lacking fat content. Maybe I should do that for my first (part of my first?) meal, to see what my body says Itâs so NEW to me, eating lean meat as the base of my meal. I did that with leanish pork but I used to have more fatty extra items, both dairy and processed meat.
I wish it would be simpler but I donât have that much pork chuckâŠ
Oh well, I like experiments. I wonât focus this much later.
Karen18
(Karen)
#81
50 stair runs to start my day the brew n books in the garden. It was a cold day but no wind so felt quite mild. Had 2 sausages,2 bacon and 1 egg for brunch.
Snacked on some cheese on and off then ate 2 of 3 pork knuckles and ate 3rd one cold this evening⊠it tasted better cold.
MeganNZ
(Megan)
#82
We have Guy Fawkes here in New Zealand but no one gives a thought to the meaning. Some folks just enjoy setting off fireworks.
Hopped on the scales this morning, lost another 1.1kg. Thatâs a total of 14.5kg (32 pounds) now since the 23rd May this year. Weight loss has definitely slowed but itâs still happening. Sometimes I feel a bit frustrated and wonder if I should actually go âon a dietâ (i.e. eat less) but I know that is wrong thinking. I just worked out my weight loss per week and feel better - 600 grams/1.3 pounds a week over the past 24 weeks. For someone eating whatever they feel like, and however much they feel like, thatâs pretty good lol.
I think feeling frustrated is more a feeling about how Iâm spending my days atm and itâs just tagging onto the issue of weight loss. I am a terrible procrastinator/avoider and I have 2 quite stressful things I absolutely must do and canât put off any longer. Iâll do one of them today for definite or my benefit will get cut off, and hoping Iâll do the 2nd as well. Both things involve leaving the house and talking to people. Life âhave toâsâ show me just how dysfunctional/low functioning I am.
Anyway, a bit blah here. But I know what I need to do to feel better and am having a good talk with myself about it.
Shinita
#83
But why, you lose wonderfully⊠I lost 2 kg in the last 2 years, well I totally should eat less. If and when my body is on board with it, of course I can just choose my food items well, avoid eating when I donât need it and hope for the best (but donât get disappointed when it doesnât happen)
I never was the classic dieter type though I had some determined times. That didnât help much.
Yep, itâs a great pace of fat-loss! I was very, very happy when I had half of this but it didnât last long enough (and I never expect to get back that again despite I weigh as much as I did in the middle of it and I am more active)⊠I ate as little as I comfortably could back then but it was enough, I was satiated all day, it was easy and no tracking! Oh golden times. But itâs good I stopped losing as I went even lower with my carbs and eventually I arrived where I am nowâŠ
I have read stories from people who has it WAY worse than me. I can satiate myself and donât gain, merely donât lose, itâs not so bad. All the struggles in vain are problematic but I have my fun too so okay.