MOOvember Carnivore

(Judy Thompson) #233

@FrankoBear the Mayo Clinic! Love it!
I like mayo too add that extra binding fat to meat salads like tuna, chopped chicken or egg. I did experiment with just salting boiled eggs and wonder if it’s just the saltiness of mayo that’s so satisfying sometimes. As kids we loved it, would eat it straight. Mom staged a terrifying inquisition once, “Who left the spoon in the mayonnaise?? If somebody doesn’t confess I’m gonna spank all 4 of ya!” We still laugh about that. It lasted for hours, or at least it seemed like hours. My sister never would confess :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
@MeganNZ “The skin is MINE lol” Love it! Don’t give it to hubby either, he doesn’t eat it and I just have to eat his in the kitchen later lol.
There’s only 1 duck fat here.

At least, that’s what’s in my grocery store. Leaving it out a few minutes though, it softens, out I can sous vide anything at 100°F to soften or thaw quickly.
@azi OMG!! Great account of death by veggies! That cream cheese combo would have made me so happy in the old days too. Love Dr. Chaffee, he’s my fave podcast.
@MeganNZ What a great dog mommy you are! I’ve always considered it an honor when a pet trusts me with their life and health.
The past 3 days I’ve tried every day to get in here and read and post. Today was earmarked for this purpose - with all the interruptions I think I’ve finally gotten there. Only about 30 posts behind but hubby kept wanting to talk or practice.
Lastnight we had our little 15 minutes of fame on the local radio station and it went quite well. I think only my brother in AZ heard the broadcast but we had a good time. He asked us to come back in a few weeks and play Christmas music. It’s on the internet live and only 15 minutes. But they changed our time a couple times so I couldn’t let people know.

So back to Wednesday. We had to take the car for a big repair in a neighboring town and stopped there for lunch. I got a sausage and cheese platter. Ate half and brought the rest home.

We also went clothes shopping, still picking up western clothes for our performances. Reba McIntyre has a line, they look great. Hubby was jaw-dropped at the medium sized clothes. It hadn’t registered with him.
Wednesday night we played at the roadhouse. Mimsy was chased around by a 10 week old puppy that’s bigger than she is. She was not amused.
Yesterday we had to go back to get the car, came home and had beef tritips I’d cooked in sous vide for 24 hours.

They were incredibly rare and tender!
Today, a combination of turkey and tritips. You can see my steak hiding under all these turkey wings and the 1 thigh. I couldn’t finish it all. I have so much admiration for @Naghite for your ability to consume 4500 calories :sweat_smile:

(Megan) #234

Whoa Michael! That looks incredibly nutritious.


you always put a smile on my face with your posts :100:

Junkfood, yea I sure get that :wink: and alot of time I just call it scraps!

--------------So I made 2 bigger meatloaves out of my burger I defrosted.

3 eggs to that meat and bake. OH WOW it was so soft and delish that I ended up eating 1.5 of it all…I got a 1/2 left for today to scrap up in second meal. First meal today got a nice steak defrosting. steak and burger…yup day zc done for me.

(Michael) #236

In fairness, I am doing ADF, otherwise that would be way too much if I ate every day :slight_smile:

Absolutely, every day. Bit shy that day of vitamin C (62%) and B1 (73%), but normally I get enough of those, so not worried about one or two light days for those vitamins. Today I will get more than enough of both of those.


Lamb chops (5) tonight with some delicious white fish called Pink Snapper. 1 x playing card 5mm thick slice of pan-fried sheep’s milk halloumi cheese. Midday breakfast was 3 rashers middle bacon and 3 chicken eggs scrambled. A hot beef bone broth was downed during the afternoon. There was coffee.

I went to the beach with Mrs. Bear and Billie. We’re just out the other side of a few stormy cold-front days. On the walk I counted 43 large black cockatoos foraging in the coastal sand dunes. They were eating wild geranium seed heads and the flowers from the saltbush. These birds are rare and going extinct. It was a joy to see and sit with them.

Our old mate Dr. Ted Naiman has some things to say about the carnivore diet on the Diet Doctor podcast. The video is book marked to the section. The topic is satiety.


guys I started this thread for US, Carnivores!! A ZEN thread to check out how we ALL ARE doing…visit and give input!!! :slight_smile:


I wrote this early yesterday and now I send it already…

@Naghite: And people think carnivore doesn’t offer variety :smiley:

Oh, slicing thin, what an idea… Something never crossed my mind. I love crispy thing… I will try…
I usually just cut my (very fatty) meat into small cubes and fry it in its own fat :slight_smile: I like it but surely there are other lovely ways to fry meat…

Hi people, we have a rainy day again :frowning: My poor garden, I would have some work to do in it but not when it’s wet… Oh well, it’s not THAT important I suppose.
We just gave up and started heating at night too… 4C mornings and not quite warm days, a not warm enough yet house (as we wait with heating until we actually start to feel cold and it’s below our normal winter temperature since we have the A/C. so first we need to warm up the house) and 3-5-7 hours of heating downstairs just isn’t a good enough combo. Oh well. The first night didn’t bring much difference but last night (heating longer and higher) finally did. It was 19C at noon! That’s cool, erm warm :slight_smile: Rainy but cold day so airing brought down the humidity, nice. We still need to use the dehumidifier after washing, we always fill the washing machine so there is a lot of wet clothes then. And we never had a drier and never will, not important while taking up space and I never have enough of that. Normally (when it’s not winter) we can put most of the clothes and other cloths outside, that’s nice. I like that we have a roofed terrace part and part of it even gets sunshine! Some part doesn’t as it has 3 beautiful big pines in the way. Fortunately they are very much living, only the thujas died or dying.
Clothes drier, oh, what a modern concept… I lived in a house without water! :smiley: (Just in summer, it was my Grandma’s. I loved it. I mean, there wasn’t water even on the property, that came later. No, there was a well a few hundreds of meters away.) I washed my clothes by hand when I was a beginner programmer in the capitol… Oh and the same big city had rented places without a toilet (well, there was a common one, one for multiple apartments). I was shocked, that is the level I just couldn’t accept ever (and rooms without a window. okay there was one looking at a tiny… erm, duct? vertical tunnel? other people’s toilets looked at it. NOPE. oh I saw horrible places in the capitol whenever I tried to rent a place using my very tiny money). It was bad enough to have a stranger as a roommate in the first months. But I needed a room not to lose my first job I managed to get after a long search. I was born at the wrong time.

I have nice fatty meat now (the SUPER fatty one they sold as pork chop. I will track it as pork shoulder, the fat content is at least that much. but maybe a tad less than the 70/30 scraps I used to buy…), I will eat a pound of it nicely fried, I chose some quite fatty pieces :wink: So my roast probably will be just not too fatty.

I focused on leaner pork in the past and while I still think it can help me sometimes, it doesn’t work so well now that I eat less eggs and fatty dairy doesn’t seem to help with satiation. I too easily overeat protein if I use leanish meat as my main food I think. Or if my satiation will be quick again in the future, I undereat fat during the day.
I try to buy a lot of pork chuck in the near future, that is the chillest. I love it, fat/protein ratio is brilliant for my needs… Not the cheapest though but if it satiates me just right and gives me more joy, the difference isn’t much.
Anyway, it’s pork so it’s cheap compared to many other items.

I drop my dairy now that I have quite fatty protein to base my day on and freshly made at that! :slight_smile: I roast 1300g fatty pork, it should be enough for 3 days, I will eat other meats , my pickled herring is nearing its expiration date and I probably will need the variety soon anyway.

Apart from hardships regarding getting satiated (I was so unsatiated after my dinner yesterday, it passed but then I had some problem at night as so often… but I was sleepy and focused on something else, I had enough of eating at night anyway so I managed to get away with a slightly creamy coffee), it’s quite chill now. It’s carni day #4 for me now (not clean enough even for me due to the carbs in my catfish spread and I had to eat a little whipped cream I made for Alvaro as he didn’t need it anymore, it had 1-2 grams of non-animal carbs again and it was sweetener at that. okay I go back to normal whipped cream and only a little amount gets sweetened, I did it many times but I supposed he will eat it all. he didn’t. but it’s November and I am not THAT dedicated. I am just training. I will be super dedicated in January, I totally expect it being full carnivore. how hard it could be? I will buy various items to help me out in need. I don’t have any processed meat now except some sausages I dislike because it doesn’t uses real intestine but some too thick thing. edible but it bothers me. the taste of the sausage is fine but I ate way better of the same kind) and it’s quite fine. I mean, exactly zero temptation or compulsion or whatever to eat off. It is expected but considering my November this far, I should appreciate I can behave now. Not like I have other good options. Satiation is hard enough with meat and eggs now and they are my best items (apart from gluten but let’s not talk about that, I don’t even have any now).
But the majority of my fasting window and usually a part of my eating window is spent in nice satiation and not thinking about what to eat in the near future. I probably even think less about food, still much. Nice topic.

Oh by the way, I used the program @FrankoBear introduced to us. Most styles like bacon, apparently. Even the “chewed, partially digested and vomited” style (Arcane) that makes some super detailed carpet patterns decided to put an almost recognizable egg and bacon on the pic… As I added eggs, it’s me, after all. Brilliant choice.
Pandora is very pretty, it made a piece of wonderful art from garbage bags too… It is obsessed with putting some shiny, juicy greens to pinkish things but it doesn’t do it with bacon for some reason.



So, yesterday. I don’t remember, it’s good I have notes… 3MAD, maybe? I had 655g pork and a little pickled herring (and eggs and dairy of course but not very much. not very little either). The latter was a huge disappointment. I didn’t feel the very tiny amount of sugar in it but it was full with pickled vegs, more than I expected and poor fish became a mush and mixed with the pickle juice with barely any decent looking (well melted looking but at least mostly fish) pieces :frowning: It was super sour anyway and I love sour so it’s something. It wasn’t spoiled or anything but it wasn’t really nice. I won’t buy it again but I don’t want to give up on pickled herring :frowning: And all the others I checked this far contained sugar and various horrible tasting sweeteners. Sigh. Oh well, Alvaro hates the smell of it anyway. And I lived without it for decades. (I still will check them here and there… :wink: )

I can’t track so I stopped today. For yesterday… Still unknown as I have no idea about the fattiness of my pork but I took an educated guess, I have experience, after all. I ate an okay amount or a bit much and definitely high protein.

And I got a bit distressed. My output processes are always perfect or near perfect. I never have the D. Just now and it was quite extreme for the minute it lasted. And my insides were tender afterwards. And I don’t get it, what did it wrong?! I ate well :frowning:
I just hope it never will happen again, once per life is more than enough for me. And I feel sorry for everyone who has it 100 or 1000 times worse/more often.
I still got hungry later and tasted my fresh pork roast. It wasn’t tender yet so I roasted it more.

Today I was satiated until quite long and then I was borderline hungry for hours. I ate at 16:20 :slight_smile: I wasn’t very hungry, ate my 450g pork (accidentally, I didn’t weigh it first), some eggs and dairy and that’s it. So it was a quite modest but okay day I suppose. I feel a bit odd though, maybe I will get hungry again.

No tracking is nice and I need to train to avoid it so I will do that for some days.

I am still drinking coffee and opened another box of cream. I am incorrigible. I don’t have as many as I used to but still too many. Oh well, I can’t focus on everything at once and quitting coffee isn’t the most important thing for now.

I focus on not eating when I don’t need it yet at the moment. What I eat is straightforward, a bit above a pound of meat, a few eggs, little dairy. Things go smoothly now, I like my food and I am not nearly as hungry as days ago.


Midnight meal. Well my first meal was a tad low it seems, it felt wonderful to eat some more, still okay macros I suppose (eyeballed things and the meat seems about as fat as pork chuck :)).

530g pork and a tiny bit of pickled herring as meat today. Less meat than usual, I came a long way… I am nicely satiated now.


Never get AI to make you breakfast. I asked for bacon, eggs, and coffee. They made me this:

(Michael) #243

Breakfast today was large thanks to 17 ounce sirloin. Started with

But I was still hungry, so ate half of

That was 2 pounds total and took 45 minutes to chew and swallow with
17 oz sirloin
3 oz thymus
2.5 oz spleen
1.5 oz chicken liver
1 oz beef liver
1 oz mussels
1 oz bone marrow
5 oz cheese

Second meal was

4 oz Buffalo heart
2oz snails
5 oz salmon
4 oz pork ribs
2 eggs
5 oz cheese (rest of package)

Snack was not carnivore đź«Ł

Total for day was an astounding 395g protein, 325 g fat, 24 g carbs and a total calorie count of 4578.

Wait until tomorrow’s picture, I am thawing a 23.5 oz sirloin steak for lunch :heart_eyes:

(Karen) #244

Wow I think I missed some Posts!

Food over last few days…cos I think you must all be thinking I’ve starved myself since that lamb and pork lol

Been busy for a few days. Was dancing Friday afternoon which was lovely, went on my own and feeling quite alright as I don’t get a lot of chance to sit down, the young men (all probably over 70) don’t like to see me sitting :wink: took the ham with me from the freezer so it was defrosted in time to munch on way home (45min drive down and an hour back) I hadn’t had anything to eat before going so the ham saw me through to my proper meal about half 5. Which was the bacon n eggs.
Yesterday did CrossFit with my daughter, it was a teams workout (of 4) and a pretty enjoyable one too. Still chugging away with this cough non stop till the workout actually started and then thankfully it stopped all the way through. Got a few looks at the beginning cos I reckon they were thinking is she going to make it through the workout lol! But I did and I was pleased with how I performed and I didn’t let the team down hahaha
Saturdays munchies were a cafe brunch of 1 sausage, portion of bacon and cheese omelette which I laboured over surprisingly. I did finish it but it was touch and go lol not particularly big either, I have eaten more on occasions at the cafe. Later in the early evening I had chicken wings and yes I ate all those in the pic, not all at once though, just 2/3rds hot and about an hour later the rest cold. Then fancied trying the bacon. It was crispy and I ate the whole lot cos it was just right, not too salty and just crispy enough. Not had that before but would buy again as a snack. Would be good as a travelling snack for a long journey.

Up bright n early Nd have been reading quite a bit sitting outside with my coffee. It is pretty chilly and my fingers n toes are starting to get a bit numb so will now go indoors and get organised for the gym and an upper body workout this morning. Catch you all later.

(Robin) #245

A willy wonka breakfast.


Oh you got a fork :smiley: Whenever I asked for a fork, I didn’t get one. The same with spoon.
(They don’t even know anomalocaris and that was the biggest, baddest predator in the Cambrian sea!)

I loved the “coffee cream” pics (after I added “tray”, they stopped making sceneries…), they were beautiful. Bacon and eggs were usually fine too*. Never combined them but it sounds a fun thing to do!

*Sometimes I got scenery. Created by a very hungry artist, apparently :wink:

Sunny days and it’s not a carni day as I tasted Alvaro’s food, more than a minimal amount but still quite little, good enough for me occasionally but I start at carni day #1 tomorrow again.
It was edible but meh. I won’t taste it next time unless I won’t have better options but the chance for that is minimal.

My leftover pork is quite lean. Juicy so not dry, I easily eat it but only when hungry and not much at once I suppose… I use sauce, lard, sausage and hunger to eat a decent amount of it.
My pork chuck is defrosting, I need to procure more meat soon.

So I eat more eggs than usual today (and bigger, creamier coffees). I got 2 of Alvaro’s cheesy puffs (those had a yolk while his never do so actually they were designed for me), ate ice cream (super meh, I may not make it again, I can use up leftover whipped cream better. and it’s not the lack of sweetener, it’s meh anyway) and started to eat my “marshmallow”. Or I got too far from the original recipe so let’s call it “raw fluff”. I added yolk, it makes everything better except seitan (there is probably a few others but I don’t know about them) and I substituted the sweetener with whipped cream, it was a huge success. As I made it neutral, it has no flavorings but why would it need any? It has yolk and cream, two quite flavorful items. The whites (and water and gelatin) are worse but the end result is still very, very nice. Anyway, it’s half about the texture! :smiley: It is beautiful. Everything improved due to the whipped cream, it just got fattier. It was a very low-cal high-protein treat before.

I just need some more recipes for crispy/crunchy dishes… Eggs aren’t very good with that.

(Karen) #247

Well I have just got back from the gym almost 4hrs later lol. Did the upper body workout which took up about 50mins then went in the spa. I was on my own sitting peacefully in the sauna so a great time to pray. Prayed that i would have an opportunity to confess my faith and quite literally as soon as I stopped praying a lovely lady walked in and blow me down said she was a Christian … well we just sat and chatted and moved to another sauna and sat and chatted and then moved to a steam room, an ice room another sauna and sat chatting :grinning: I had nothing to rush home to except some fuel and she didn’t have anything untill later in the afternoon when she does a gospel radio show! Been lovely. We sat in one steam room chatting and 4 young girls came in, all silent, sat down and spent the entire time looking at their phones lol… poor things! I reckon we probably disturbed their silence but hey ho we were in there when they walked into it was nice of them to remain silent and let us talk :rofl:

Was ready for a bite to eat when I got in but not overly hungry. Thought I would try the sardines I got yesterday … yuk give me tinned my day … took one small bite Nd they went in the bin. Not like me I know but they were just so tasteless and hadn’t been filleted very well. So i pulled out the packet of roast pork slices I also got yesterday and that is edible. I have a steak ribeye to eat later that had been reduced so I hope that taste good.

(Megan) #248

Grace isn’t okay again damnit. Reluctantly ate some of her breakfast yesterday, slept most of the day, didn’t want to move much. Unable to sleep tonight so gave up trying at 3.30am. She doesn’t seem to be in pain. Maybe a bit nauseated b/c she’s licking her lips a bit. No diarrhea or vomiting. No idea what’s going on. If she didn’t have the cancer diagnosis I’d just be shrugging this off, but knowing she could go downhill at any point changes everything. I feel sick with worry and helpless.


and this is our daily lives if we have the time to relax, stop, see what comes forward to us and we find our peace in others as it hits us dead on. really fab post K!!! A human connection, love it!!

-------------------so got internet issues…ugh…just one now after trying to fix but got temp fix. we shall see if the Dino here can fix this or have to take laptop to a geek crew LOL

ate up some pork lion again and later got streak and shrimp. easy peasy zc’y for me.

(Karen) #250

Pork lion and shrimp n streak sound great… different… but great. You’ll be heading to bed roaring naked lol! :rofl::heart_eyes:


Hey Megan, BIG VIRTUAL HUG for you. We, in this little group, are thinking of you in this difficult time. Grace will let you know if she is too tired. Get as many pats as you can. You know each other very well. The vet will have the numbers to help decide which decisions to make. :hugs:

(Michael) #252

Todays meals totalled 365 G protein, 284 g fat, 22 g carb. Total calories 4100.

Small breakfast early for me at 9 am

Large lunch with mega steak and snails and half of a cheese package

Dinner, 6 eggs and rest of cheese package

Desert was non carnivore, shrug.