Meat MAYham


(Karen) #41

Yesterday I had a lay in for a change and had a good talk to myself, really didn’t know whether to continue stair running and thought what reasons to carry on with them. I got out of bed and my back was so stiff from the thrusters in Saturdays workout at CF that I thought ‘get them there stair runs done gal!’ And that eased off all the stiffness. So i am carrying on for my health, body, fitness, and time management, not for the challenge as I have proved I can do the challenge. As i was running up and down the stairs I just kept thinking I hope I can still do this well into my 70’s.

Went for a lovely 5 mile walk and talk around the nature reserve with my daughter qhich i always enjoy. We caught up with the past week or so. Weather was sunny and fairly warm.

All I ate on Sunday was chicken chicken and more chicken phew. I was all chickened out!

This morning I didn’t feel so good and my mood was quite low. The weather was naff but I reckon it was the chicken that was causing the low mood. I had cooked so much of the chicken that i didn’t want any wasted. Stair runs done but felt hard as my energy levels were lower.

Stayed in today as it is the weather has turned back to winter, winds and rain and cold.

Chopped up the last of the chicken and had some sautèd for brunch with butter and cheese which was nice as I haven’t had it like that for a while. Dinner was rump steak, bacon n eggs. Snacked on some cheddar.!

Work tomorrow, up at 4.45am so early night tonight.


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(Vic) #42

Steak with shrimps.

Not small steaks, the shrimp are just huge. They barely fit the 10inch plate.


#43

I’m under the work pile. Digging my way out.

Blood glucose is 5.7mmol/L two hours after bacon and eggs breakfast. Notably, no cheese at breakfast.


(Vic) #44

You didn’t eat the glucose, you made it. Must be exactly what your body needs it to be. :sunglasses:
Carnivore makes us mentally strong, that workpile of yours will suffer under your ferocious digging :smile:

Ha d a similar breakfast, no bacon but thin slices of beef.


(Butter Withaspoon) #45

I really like these meat threads because of the community and interaction. But I eat some veg with my meat and eggs so I’ll just be a reader/lurker. Felt like it would be polite to say Hello!


(Vic) #46

How sweet to say Hallo, hallo to you to. :hugs:

Ofcourse you don’t need to be a carnivore to socialise here, the topic is ZC, all with an interest are welcomed


#47

and you need to keep doing just that! Movement is life, you keep on going, you are the Energizer Bunny on exercise for our thread ya know!!

Chicken’d out :slight_smile: oh boy I been there HA

********************THANK YOU EVERYONE for your well wishes for my mom. So far so good. Haven’t discussed test results with Dr. yet and will see ‘what meds’ she might end up on. They did put her on a blood thinner but I have yet to ‘research’ the final standings of it all BUT Mom is doing great. Good spirits, doing very well, actually having a ‘vacation’ in the hospital. Something new for her LOL

They told her to keep moving. To move more! The rehab people had her going up and down flights of stairs. They told my bro that he should make sure she joins a gym? Are ya kiddin’ here LOL I think with covid around and her being 93 it would be better to walk her around the house and down to the lakefront and sit out on the dock and then walk back up around to her back porch…haha…be safer than a gym for her I would think? :slight_smile: They told her that movement is the key to life along with eating alot of good meat protein for strength! Yup, been telling her the same thing for years now HA

So not discharged yet but probably today. Again, so far so good and see how it all flows today and final decisions/diagnosis etc. on her tests and all.

I appreciate all the support from you guys :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Holding zero carb more than ever of course when someone gets med issues that is close to you, you focus a bit on yourself too in reflection and to me, it is STAY as healthy as possible for as long as possible :slight_smile:

Focus on life and health and balance etc. in my life and hold my eating plan as tight as can be because I feel so wonderful eating this way vs. my old days and I won’t give that up! Not now or ever! ZC ON everyone and enjoy the benefits of this great lifestyle and grab onto the vibrancy of life it gives us!!

Like Karen is chicken’d out, I am now kinda pork’d out.

Defrosted Tbones. Beef, give me some beef LOL


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So I had to do this and that for errands and thought, why not hit grocery fast cause kid wanted some ‘chips’, shoot me on that but she does not ask for much truly…and I hit a ‘decent’ priced sale. Not as low as normal but I grabbed 7 ribeye steaks. beauty! the individual one is my food for today and hubby will get the 2 thin cut Tbones I got defrosted, yes I do pass the inferior cuts to him that I grab when I can and he loves them so?? Don’t judge me, I am going for that 1.32 lb. honking ribeye in the front of the pic.


(Linda ) #49

Don’t judge me, I am going for that 1.32 lb. honking ribeye in the front of the pic.
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No jusdgement here…SO happy to hear that your mom might be released today and I agree with the walking and moving at home at least for now lo

Hope things get better for you miss reading your posts lately[quote=“HelenW, post:45, topic:108435, full:true”]
I really like these meat threads because of the community and interaction. But I eat some veg with my meat and eggs so I’ll just be a reader/lurker. Felt like it would be polite to say Hello!
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I started out same way more ketovore than carnivore slowly veges got less and then moved completely over when I started seeing Dr C. I’ll still eat occassional vege at a once in awhile treat

Not small steaks, the shrimp are just huge. They barely fit the 10inch plate.
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Never seen shrimp that big they look amazing.[quote=“Karen18, post:41, topic:108435, full:true”]
Yesterday I had a lay in for a change and had

This morning I didn’t feel so good and my mood was quite low. The weather was naff but I reckon it was the chicken that was causing the low mood. I had cooked so much of the chicken that i didn’t want any wasted. Stair runs done but felt hard as my energy levels were lower.

I always admire your exercise commitment hope your energy returns with your beef…I know I need to do more to build muscle hoping to change that if this pool ever gets finished lol.

Yesterdaysfood for me was flanken style short ribs then 2nd meal was munching on prime rib.
So todays menu more prime rib it was really good.


(Alli) #50

I’m jumping back in for the Mayham month. All the meat looks super tasty and it’s torturous while I wait for my beef to be done in the oven!

I posted a little in the March thread but was overly sensitive at the time about strict carnivore and supplements or fungi or whatever and decided to leave the internet and the opinions of others until I could get my own mind sorted out. Looking back boy was I being overly sensitive bordering on rude, sorry @Fangs. I was coming from a place of fear and an unwillingness to give up the last few things I had to eat that weren’t just straightup meat. I was also struggling from the ongoing symptoms of anxiety and disorded thinking I was experiencing.

The funny thing is, now I’m just eating plain fatty beef and lamb with salt to taste, and drinking water, and the lingering anxiety and disordered thinking is finally receding and I feel so much better than when I was clinging to the little bit of mushrooms and onions.

I’ve sufferred with a range of autoimmune issues since birth, so I knew in the back of my mind it would be best to go as strict as possible, but I think I just needed the time to grieve about that and accept healing might be possible as many things have not worked before.

I’ve used the past 6 weeks to do a series of elemination and testing phases and have determined that I get an autoimmune reaction to: eggs, cheese, butter, cream, ghee, chicken, chicken livers, and pork.

So now I’m just left with beef and lamb. But within a week of sticking with that my skin began to clear up, and I’ve been dealing with eczema and lesions on my arms and torsos for months to the point where I have to wear socks on my hands at night to stop me flaying myself in my sleep. And I feel mentally resilient, just a little, for the first time, and not so anxious and depressed.

Also the beef started to taste so much better which was odd. I’m lucky I get good quality beef from the local farm anyway, so I mostly eat slow cooked flank or make burgers so I’ve got something I can cook in five minutes. I keep all the juices when I cook and spoon them onto my meals like a gravy, and add a tbsp or so of tallow to the burgers.

It’s early days for this new eating pattern, but onions and mushrooms and the little extras have lost their appeal when the alternative is clear skin and a clear mind :slight_smile:

Looking forwards to seeing what 30 days of just ruminants can bring me, so that’s my goal for the may thread, to make it to the end without straying from beef and lamb.


(Heather) #51

Heck yeah! My co-worker’s jaw drops when she hears I can put away a 1 1/4 ribeye in one sitting. :grin: Most delish! I tried strip steaks for a spell, but they just didn’t do it for me when it came to enough fat.

My daily eating of about 3/4 ounce of liver is going well. It sure gives me a nice boost of energy (kind of like a “high”) - LOL.

I am still struggling with water retention in my legs, so I have given up the boneless skinless chickben breast I usually eat, as it includes 15% of a broth solution, which has sodium, which is causing the swelling, I’m sure.

I also decided to give up coffee (I had transitioned to decaf a few months ago), but I decided yesterday to give it up completely. It’s not truly carnivore (being a plant) and I think I was using it as a way to fend off hunger, which isn’t good for me.

I got on the scale today and my weight has dipped (ever so slightly) into the 160’s. WOOHOO! I haven’t been this low since I was doing multiple day fasts on keto over a year and a half ago. Of course, it is my typical “monthly drop” prior to Aunt Flo’s visit, but it was a nice number to see.

DH is still holding strong, but is struggling with not eating enough. He said nothing sounds appetizing to him and he is also not hungry. He’s 8 weeks in, so I’m trying to gently caution him that those who don’t eat enough on carnivore, typically have a hard time staying with the plan.

DD is going through her times of wanting to “take a break” and go off for a bit. Within a couple of days she’s back at it again. I told her she just has to keep working on figuring things out. She knows what causes her cravings, but she continues to feed those cravings. Since I went super-strict, my cravings are completely gone. I have the occasional, “Hmmm, that smells good” thoughts, but it never crosses into, “I’m going to eat that.” I am very grateful for being at this point. My cravings that go along with my monthly hormones were sometimes unbearable. I couldn’t resist.

Great to see how everyone is doing! Happy Meat MAYham!


(Vic) #52

I so much support you in your endever. I may even join you for a week or so in lamb, beef and water only.

Looking forward to see you heal, it will happen.


#53

I’ve been trying tallow to cook for about 2 weeks now and I just can’t seem to get used to the taste. I thought beef tallow would enhance the beef flavor, but it just gives it an “off” taste. I thought it might be the tallow that went bad somehow but I tried a different brand and it still tastes bad. So far pork tallow is the one I seem to notice the least when I cook in it. Why does beef tallow taste so much different from beef/beef fat? Weird


(Alli) #54

I agree with you on that one in that I don’t like taste of tallow when I buy it. I guess you could call what I use ‘drippings’. I save all the fat and juices from the meat I cook and then keep them in the fridge. Pictured is the fat still hot and then one from the freezer that I break chunks out of and nibble as solid fat with my burgers.


(Alli) #55

Thanks for the support :slight_smile: I have struggled in the past with feeling like even the normal carnivore doesn’t work for me but I see it differently now - I just have to do what my body’s telling me. And I’ve been experimenting with what cuts of beef I like and how to balance taste and convenience and cost which has helped a lot.

Tonight’s dinner is beef two ways - burger and double-cooked flank.


#56

[yesterday]
WOW, those shrimps!!! I had no idea there are so big shrimps in existence!

Unusual day for me. I was a tad hungry and Alvaro came home after 2pm… I barely ate (from my viewpoint so 3 eggs and a bit something else) but it was fatty… I tested some pork belly. Only 42% fat so it’s a watery thing, cooked, smoked, with way more meat part than my big fav with 86g fat in 100g, that’s soft and tender, this one is chewier/crunchier but nothing like raw salted pig belly, that stuff with zero meat is too popular if I look at it from my own viewpoint… I can’t eat fat tissue without meat. Maybe in scrambled eggs but only if I have no other option.
But this thing still has 3 times as much fat grams than protein so I couldn’t resist and tracked my lunch. 77% fat, I used zero added fat as I ate boiled eggs this time, among others.
Just like the fattier stuff, I easily eat it all alone. I came a long way.

I ate 100g and it filled me so very well… I tried to have some dinner in multiple parts but it was little. I barely could eat a bite from the tiny fried beef I defrosted days ago but I didn’t wanted my little pork or many eggs either.
But my energy need is so tiny, I eat a few bites a few times and my energy intake isn’t so bad (and my nutrients should be more or less okay as I eat the right stuff, usually. but I usually eat well anyway so some weaker days are fine. my body tells me if it has some problem with my eating). A bite probably means something else for me with my overeating skills, though. And my bites were quite fatty today.

So, a very unusual but okay day. Tomorrow I buy some chicken liver and hearts (they are mixed at the butcher) and fry them. Maybe I should use some new recipe… One without cream as I am almost completely run out of it. And when I do, I stop eating all dairy. My fav cheese is fun but I mostly eat it due to my low desire to eat meat and eggs (I eat meat and eggs, of course but less than usual), I should change very soon but I never stay like this for long so it will be fine. And I do want liver again.

My pants were tight today but I expect it to change soon. I made weightlifting and tried to run a little. I ended up running very little. Like, 2 minutes? I am so bad at that. No mood for it, I prefer just walking. We have a nice end of spring now. I don’t have very late tulips, mine will wilt soon. We have many other flowers including lilac, I have white and a strong purple as well.

[today]
Sigh. “Social eating” again. I mean, when my SO comes home, I eat too. It was around 3pm and I was still satiated… Solid pig fat is effective just like protein. Or more. Hard to tell. I obviously ate more protein than my tiny need but eating less is almost impossible for me, I ate enough on my plant-based low-carb days years ago, I ate enough on my 1000kcal days (often way more than needed even then)… Protein is just to easy to eat enough if one is me.
So I had a tiny lunch with about 3 eggs and soup and some small dinner later, I wasn’t hungry at that time either.
Today was low-meat just like yesterday, for some reason I just don’t need much at the moment. Of course, it will change soon, less than 0.5 pound of meat a day is extreme even for me! I still have beef and pork, tomorrow I fry liver then there will be roasted turkey and pork again (together. one turkey wing doesn’t seem a safe amount after 3 low-meat days at all).

@HelenW, you can take a page from my book and write here despite your carbs. Fangs is very friendly. I spent a long time in carni threads while doing on/off keto, it helped me to try carnivore (helped? I never would even get the idea without the charming carnivores on this forum) and come back if I strayed. What I often do. And I have carnivore-ish days or worse lately (as certain items doesn’t fit my carnivore-ish definition, it’s not all about tiny amounts, I have blacklists), I really plan to lose these tiny carbs already… Tomorrow should be the day. Sometimes it’s harder to make a clean start and I don’t need to be super strict. Just pretty much due to slippery slopes. So my woe is way closer to carnivore (and that’s the base of my woe, with some ideally very tiny amount of “extras”) than to keto (with all those veggies and sweets and baked thing), I feel much more comfy here, nothing tempt my still somewhat newbie self (I will try to behave myself)…
And I think everyone understands beginners aren’t all perfect. Even veterans aren’t always perfect.

@Fangs, one’s spirit matters a lot but it seems the situation isn’t dire anyway… :slight_smile: I am glad, I thought about her and hoped this will be the case, nothing too serious! Yay, I wish her the best! :slight_smile: I so love lively old people, they are my heros, I wanna be a fit lively old one myself! It balances out a tiny bit the current things with sick older ones and people believing that a 60 years old is old and fragile and the age brings lots of sickness… Yeah, some people has bad genetics but most of them just didn’t do what they should to stay healthy and somewhat active. And that’s sad.
I met my SO’s Mom in Saturday… Her spirit is great, she moves too but her woe was pretty bad all her life I think. She is quite obese, has diabetes and only didn’t bring her bulky but useful walking aid because she came by bus and she couldn’t walk to the quite nearby bus station, she used her bicycle. She took not very many steps, insanely slowly, clutching to his son. She hardly can walk and wait for some surgery… She isn’t even 70. And never will eat properly. She eat protein and fat just fine, she always liked meat and she avoids the worst carbs now that it’s doctor’s orders, it could be way worse but it’s not enough. But she refuses to change even more. It’s quite tragic but hopefully she won’t get even much worse…
I want to be way healthier at 120 and I will do whatever I can for it. Good genes, I have them. Not perfect but good enough. But even that isn’t enough alone so I keep trying to make my woe better.


(Linda ) #57

I got on the scale today and my weight has dipped (ever so slightly) into the 160’s. WOOHOO! I haven’t been this low since I was doing multiple day fasts on keto over a year and a half ago. Of course, it is my typical “monthly drop” prior to Aunt Flo’s visit, but it was a nice number to see.

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Congrats thats awesome on the weight loss hope your hubby sorts out his hunger.

Looking forwards to seeing what 30 days of just ruminants can bring me, so that’s my goal for the may thread, to make it to the end without straying from beef and lamb.
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I totally get the reluctance… mushrooms and creamed spinach was my last to go…but I went in boots and all in Feb with option of them as an occassional treat…so happy your in a good place now and it’s working for you. And your skin is clearing thats awesome.


#58

I dislike all tallow (not when there is a modest amount in the meat it belongs to) and feed it to the animals.
But I have very tiny experience with it.

I know lard better. And I tasted super bad lard (normal store-bought. when I bought bacon, that produced a bad one too. surely bacons aren’t the same either…), okay lard (from a farmer’s market), good lard (the nearby pig farm) and totally awesome, smooth lard (the nearby pig farm, I rendered using a small piglet). And these are European pigs, who knows what lard is like elsewhere where other breeds and different feeding is used? I’ve read an article once about drastically different PUFA content in lard.

Maybe tallows are closer to each other but surely they aren’t all the same…? I only had tallow 2 times, once from beef, once from mutton, they were pretty similar and bad tasting and smelling (especially according to my SO. he hates it with passion. I just refuse to eat tallow and I eat almost everything including skin and chewy parts of a heart. those taste okay, only grounding and mixing with eggs is needed).

It would be nice to be able to taste someone’s beloved tallow. I would know if it’s the tallow or my taste…

I like that I usually buy some fatty meat and eat it all, no added fat, no rendered fat… It’s simple. But there are exceptions. It’s nice to have some duck fat around. We barely use any so one duck in a blue moon is enough. The same for lard. I even can feed some tallow to the cats and the chickadees so some very fatty ruminant is fine too if it happens very rarely. The beef I buy isn’t very fatty.

Oh and I forgot to write today that my pants weren’t tight. No idea why but it’s nice. One day I will measure my weight. I am in no hurry. I can’t measure my circumferences, I always get quite different numbers. I am soft, I can’t do it right. So I stick to my pants.


(Linda ) #59

I mainly only use bacon to cook other meat in even fried fish

Oh and I forgot to write today that my pants weren’t tight. No idea why but it’s nice. One day I will measure my weight. I am in no hurry. I can’t measure my circumferences, I always get quite different numbers. I am soft, I can’t do it right. So I stick to my pants.
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Nice to hear your pants feel better.
I have found that since going carnivore I don’t get that bloated icky feeling…even when I over eat it might cause me stomach pain and burping…but no bloating…never get that I have to undo my pant button feeling anymore its great.


#60

Well I have this too except the not eating enough part… I eat without hunger and appetite. Today I ate when already satiated, okay, that’s not so good, I try to eat when I need, not when we have mealtimes (not like that always works…). But I usually get a bit hungry when I take a bite. Not today. Oh well.
If it’s just 1-2 days, I don’t worry but eating little longer term isn’t good!

And me being a hedonist, make sure I find some dish I do find at least subtly nice…? Sometimes I don’t really want anything but I don’t need to force myself (I don’t do that) if it’s my usually top favs. That’s bad when pancakes are meh but almost everything else (at least what I actually have, that’s why I make sure I have big variety) is NOPE. But at least I can eat pancakes then… :wink: And some meat is always fine in small amounts. So I always can eat something but certain days are lowish-calorie and not so joyful on carnivore. I can’t do much about that. Maybe it will change later. But it never lasts long in my case so it’s not so bad.

She is like me… But I know breaks don’t work well. So it’s a bit tricky for me, I need to find my balance. The right amount of strictness is important but it’s not always easy to see what is the right amount. And I usually plan and try to do things right, I am ready to help out myself if I start to get bored of my food… And then everything go south in a too little time and I don’t understand it, how could I not notice in time? But being strict keeps me on track for way longer. But being strict is difficult too. I am sure I need a tiny “freedom”. But I get ideas then. Oh let’s hope we both find our way eventually. And it better happens soon!

I know that, it’s cool when I have that :smiley: I smell things and enjoy the smell and doesn’t want more :slight_smile:
It’s like smelling some eggs and sausage when fasting :smiley: I am the one who likes food topics, food videos and food smells and baking when fasting. Partially because I only fast until I get hungry…

But I still fancy things. The more carbs I eat, the more. And I rarely even try to resist temptation. So strictness helps as long as it doesn’t annoy my inner rebel.

But it’s so cool that I can enjoy food with my eyes and nose too… If I didn’t have this, I would be doomed.