Too bad people typically don’t eat grazing ruminants… Mono cropping is even way more heavier if one eats animals as they need much more of that.
But I don’t want to think about this right now, I must be selfish with my lil money right now (the same money I spent on food in the past but still, for really great meat I would need some more)… So that’s my focus. And I experiment and we will see…
I am usually amazed how blind and hateful both groups can be in arguments. It’s cool when there is proper communication, open mindedness and respect towards the other person (if it did nothing that makes all respect evaporate).
Btw grazing ruminants. I surely mentioned it already. I see them all the time around here and I have no idea where to buy stuff coming from those. The beef farm uses the farm itself, not the hills here. whatever, I love looking at the cows. Much, much better view than some crops though some crops are very pretty… Rapeseed is blooming everywhere now and my fav is sunflowers. I just dislike the seeds itself (never liked the taste) but my chickadees love that.
But a hill with different looking cows grazing on the super steep slopes (not what goats are able to do but still impressive), that’s an especially lovely sight.
We need fields, I mean, normally, grassy-weedy ones. We can’t take everything away from nature (we probably can but then we will die with nature or something but first we will be miserable, without a piece of proper land with wild animals and plants). And we have hills anyway, great for grazing animals, less great for tractors, IDK their limits but animals are better with slopes for sure.
I hope I didn’t write too stupid things, I try to use my mind but my knowledge is limited. That’s why I don’t argue with numbers, I have no idea about those.
I had 2 small meals this far today. Not really hungry after my surely high-calorie yesterday. I don’t track at all Not even on my simple days.
I had soup (without meat, I ate that already) with eggs, scrambled eggs with cooked pork skin, I like this combo and sometimes I have leftover pork skin… And roasted pork chuck.
I have a tiny bit more pork, a little fried beef and I plan to make pancakes. If not today, tomorrow.
And some vienna sausage, for variety, its expiration date is today.
We had some soft and very tasty sausage but Alvaro put it all into his huge potato dish (my old favorite dish, actually, well the vegetarian version, I never liked meat in it… but it’s soft, things with the option to be crunchy should be crunchy… I don’t understand my old self though I still love paprika, fat and salt together… :D), complaining it’s not enough. The sausage, I mean. Well, it was him who bought too little. And I was the one who ate a few slices, obviously, I won’t give it up all…
I really need to make my own deli meat. I am lazy though. I do love my roasts but variety is nice and they are just too nice…? Tender, different… And normal meat just with extra fat and water and some spices… But it’s easier to mix things, using eggs instead of water and just fry it… It will be denser but that’s not necessarily a problem.
I was on the Hungarian forum too. The CICO one? The vegan vs carnivore vs normal CICO person but with the twist that they can’t lose fat even eating little… That’s interesting to read (and a bit less interesting to write as I know my own opinion and knowledge). There are 3 sides now but even ones belonging to the same group aren’t in agreement (the other almost-carnivore - not like I am that, just in my better times - is too big of a bigot and he thinks everything is the same and keto inevitably causes scarily quick fat-loss and he doesn’t care if I say it isn’t true. and he says bad things about others without knowing them and I dislike that too).
There is an older women who can’t lose fat, we have such a person in this forum as well… They exist and seem to defy the laws of nature but the human body has huge wriggle rooms, it seems.
Last time he just wanted to lose fat already while still eating chicken soup… And I don’t understand what’s wrong with chicken soup… If that’s no “diet food”, I don’t know what is Not like we need to eat “diet food”, of course. But it’s mostly water, it has protein with some fat… One can even use no skin, I prefer that as it makes my soup way too fatty…
Poor women. She’s trying since years, track and do things “right” every day and just get fattier sometimes but usually it’s stalling. Significant fat gain happened when a respected person (though I don’t agree with his very rigid ideas… but he has knowledge too and he isn’t a jerk, it’s a huge thing there) told her to eat more and she ate more. It never went away.
The vegan told her not to eat protein with white carbs. So, she should skip the protein from her breakfast. Of course. What else. Heaven forbid she skips some carbs when her body need fuel after a little fast. (He advised less than 15% fat too as a non-drastic change.)
It is painful to me. That’s the precious protein on an already lowish-cal diet! Why?
While the carnivore calls her diet living on junk food (nope, she doesn’t do that) and her not being open-minded enough just because she doesn’t want to go carnivore or keto.
Some of the “normal ones” call us “abnormal ones” extreme ones who should be ignored as usual. Maybe not me or just to a lesser extent as I am very liberal, “each to their own” and “everyone is different” but it’s true…
I didn’t met carnivores when I was a vegetarian… Not like it would have made any difference. Someone offering me home-raised fatty pork would have made a huge difference though… I always was aware about this fact. But store-bought pork? I didn’t want that. I didn’t even feel it tasty enough either (when I super rarely accidently ate some at some place? or not accidentally after I dropped vegetarianism but still pretty much avoided meat). I wonder why it changed. Maybe because I actually tried my fav cuts? Maybe because my hedonist self had to make adjustments for me to be able to eat very low-carb that I had just realized I need? I think the first one as my taste is pretty reluctant to change. I feel almost everything the same tasting as always (just sweeter or saltier in many cases). My desire changed drastically but not my taste. With some exceptions.
Whatever, it’s pretty easy for me now.