I found this article about protein needs to be a good read.
https://blog.virtahealth.com/how-much-protein-on-keto/
More information:
Lowering Protein
Mnketo46
(Frank)
#10
Hmmm. The body odor protein issue is new to me as well. I tend to lose weight quicker and more comfortably with a higher amount of protein. I haven’t noticed a difference in the way I smell. Nor has my wife or daughters. Quite the contrary. When I was eating a SAD I was a smelly mess. Mostly from gas. 
Dread1840
(Chris)
#13
I generally eat about 400g of protein daily in the form of red meat. I train with weights 5 days a week for 2 hours and really don’t sweat that much, at least compared to others. No excessive BO either, though my urine sometimes does smell stronger.
atomicspacebunny
(Bunny)
#14
That is only temporary it is a transient process as discussed by Dr. Phinney[1][2]… Sweet smelling urine may be a sign of diabetes?
I was holding a conversation with a very strict out-their vegan once and obviously he was not from America; he stated “…You Americans smell like meat…” lol, 
I really think that, that is not really the case, people from different cultures do have a distinct body aroma!
One little comical thing my grandmother use to do when I was little is slap the flabby skin (no fat) under her arm, she use to say “look muscles in reverse,” I now realize that is possibly from excessive protein intake[4][5] and the high carb SAD diet and also her pre-diabetic condition?
Footnotes:
[1] Serum Uric Acid as a Biomarker for Keto-adaptation - Stephen Phinney, MD, PhD, Jeff Volek, PhD: “… An intriguing potential indicator of the body’s progress into keto-adaptation is the response of the serum uric acid content after initiation of a ketogenic diet. In healthy normal humans with initially normal blood uric acid levels, their values typically double in the first week of nutritional ketosis. Although this phenomenon was reported over half a century ago, its cause remains poorly understood. Some medical experts assume that carbohydrate restriction causes more purines from nucleic acids to break down to uric acid, either due to increased death of cells or from a higher dietary protein intake (i.e., meat containing nucleic acids). For reasons we won’t detail, neither of these mechanisms stands up to data in the published literature. …”
[2] “…Bottom line: A well-formulated ketogenic diet is not a contraindication in people with a history of gout. But once through the keto-adaptation phase, consistency with the diet is advised in order to avoid repeated swings in blood uric acid level caused by going in and out of nutritional ketosis …” …More
[4] How much protein is excessive? How much protein is enough? - Dr. Jason Fung
[5] Autophagy: Intermittent fasting protein cycling (IFPC): “…The next piece of reclaiming your youth is the protein cycling or PC part. PC is the practice of alternating between periods of low protein consumption and normal to high protein consumption. The reason you want to under-eat protein on some days of the week is similar to why you want to start intermittent fasting – it comes back to the dance between glucagon and insulin. Lowered protein intake means lowered insulin levels and higher glucagon. And recall that higher glucagon means autophagy is active. Since your body can’t make its own protein, if you don’t eat it (or eat enough of it) then it’s forced into recycling its existing proteins. This recycling activity is a fundamental task of the autophagy process. …” - Naomi Whittel
[9] How to Cut Fat on a Ketogenic or Low Carb Diet (and Why You Might Want To) - Tuit Nutrition - Amy Berger
Bellyman
(Brian)
#15
The answer for me has pretty much been, “eat real food”, let the macros fall where they may.
To me, the carbs are about the only ones I purposely keep low. Otherwise, it’s just a matter of eating real foods. Eggs are a wonderful combination of protein and fat in a nice tidy little package. A variety of meats and fish give me good protein and fat, (plus I do use a little dairy but not nearly as much as I used to, probably more of a condiment than a food group) and I think having a variety there is a good thing. I eat some veggies, too, mostly non-starchy, and some berries but mostly on the weekends. Occasionally, I’ll even have a sweet potato but that’s more of a special treat than a regular item. I know, they’re carby.
I’ve never had a lot of interest in compartmentalizing my food to the last particle. I also don’t pay a lot of attention to heavy supplements. But I do like a rather large variety of real foods which I eat pretty much as much as I want of.
When I’ve had plateaus, I’ve taken a closer look at what I’m taking in and have at times figured out that I was taking in too much or too little of one thing or another. Early on, I wasn’t eating enough protein. (Spent a lot of time as a vegan and vegetarian and was filling up on veggies and ignoring the protein. Fixed that.) Recently, with another plateau, I took another hard look and came to the conclusion that a half pint of HWC a day was too much, and that’s about what I had been doing. Quit that and changed up how I make coffee. Weight going back down again.
I wonder how many people make this harder than it has to be. (?) Maybe it really is harder for some, not trying to say it isn’t. Either way, I hope you find what works for you.
juice
(Running from stupidity)
#16
I’m with you.
I wonder how many people make this harder than it has to be.
A few, yeah.
TeeCee
#17
I’m pretty trim, always Juggling with 5 pounds to lose up-and-down. The way I do it is I go on the Dukan diet for 7 days (protine, no fat, puts me into fat loss )and then go back to 1200 - 2000 calories on Keto ( I weigh each day to see what is ok for me to eat). That’s how I stay small. I do not have diabetes and this works really well for me and I’m never hungry but I don’t do it over 7 days usually about 4 days.
Most keto people would not agree with this but you have to do the N=1 and see what works for you.
CatGirl
(Janelle)
#18
Yeah, except I wrote this post to potentially find an answer to an issue or two so whatever works for you doesn’t work for everyone. I’ll listen to the podcast suggested and read Bunny’s links. I’ll see if I can get a women’s perspective since I believe the things I’m talking about may be specific. Protein needs, fat, whatever - one should not assume one size fits all.
Suggesting that I’m making this harder than it should be is a tad bit patronizing.
Keto6468
(Karen)
#19
I read through bunny’s post as well. I think Amy burger has the right guidance. And for some keto is easy Peezy, but not for me. I have lost weight but it’s glacially slow.
lfod14
#21
DAMN! I though I was high in the high 100’s / low-mid 200’s! Have you noticed a difference in your lifts being that high if you were lower at some point?
CatGirl
(Janelle)
#23
Just a tad bit - I appreciate the help. It’s just not as easy as it seems like it should be. I follow a plan - eating to the macros given to me by a doctor. That might be complicating things but I’m am losing weight - just trying to work out the kinks.
Bellyman
(Brian)
#24
I am sorry Janelle. I sometimes lose track of who is who. You probably said a bunch of stuff that gave a lot more context in various places that I didn’t put together when I posted.
Sometimes I get too chatty. It’s not meant as anything other than wanting the best for others. I guess at times it doesn’t come out that way. 
Sincerely, I hope you find answers that work for you.
Peace
Regina
(Empress of the Unexpected)
#25
Just my experience. As a kid I resisted eating. School nurse had to come around at lunchtime and make me drink my milk. After age fifteen could eat whatever. Gained twenty pounds with pregnancy. Gained 40 with menopause. I have also worried about the protein thing. But at this point I just eat keto foods. 8 months in have totally lost my appetite. No need to count anything, today was bacon, cabbage and sunflower seeds. And I’m stuffed. Keto has kinda re-activated my childhood anorexia. In the beginning I did not believe that Keto could kill my appetite, it did. Just keep carbs under 20.
PaulL
(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing)
#26
How much protein are you eating? An ammonia smell is a sign of overloading the body with protein. Try sticking to 1.0-2.0 grams of protein a day per kilogram of lean body mass. That should not overtax the body’s ability to convert ammonia into urea. So keep your carbohydrate low, eat a reasonable amount of protein, and eat fat to satiety. That will allow your body to set your appetite to a level that will allow it to metabolize all the fat you eat, plus any excess fat there may be in your adipose tissue.
Ilana_Rose
(mole person)
#27
There is no conundrum really. The ketogenic diet is a moderate protein diet. You are only supposed to be eating the amount of protein that your body requires for maintenance functions. If you were eating correctly, before you went on a keto diet, you would have been eating this amount of protein anyhow. There is no need to increase your protein over and above the amount you had before keto, assuming you were having a healthful amount of protein.
For me, this is about 1 gram of protein per kilogram of lean mass. I have no trouble increasing muscle mass with resistance training at this level.
Once you are fat adapted, you do not need to fear eating too much fat as long as you are able to stop eating when you are no longer hungry. People become confused about what the magic of the ketogenic diet is. It’s not that you can eat endless amounts of fat and not gain weight, it’s that you will not be hungry for more food than required if you eat low carbohydrates and high-fat, once you are fat adapted.