@JulesyMcJulesface YOU ARE HILARIOUS! I’m so glad you’re here.
Thanks! That is the nicest thing I have heard today! I am so happy to have found the forums and now feel like I have a keto posse around me. I am smiling from your kind words and my wrinkles are not even showing- I used a cement trowel to fill the lines this morning.
I’m afraid that the information came from a few different videos. In one he talks about giving up HWC and switching to MCT in his coffee to keep a fasting state. One of the things that I love about him is that he’s not afraid to change his position on things. So he doesn’t try to keep less accurate ideas alive in order to save face. During one video he talks about the MCT coffee and later stresses the importance of vegetables on a ketogenic diet. Later in the day another video he talks about being carnivore for the last year .
But he never hesitates to give his latest opinion about things. I couldn’t find the Fatbombs mention but he gave a recipe that was something like coconut oil, cacao powder and cinnamon. I guess he froze a tray and cut it into little squares. It has to be kept in the freezer of course but I think he’s also OMAD and uses them to top up if he feels a little hungry later after dinner. I think the whole point is these may not taste very good but they’re sustaining. My impression is they wouldn’t be tasty enough to want to eat anymore than you need to get through the feeding window. There was an autophagy series of videos and it may have been in there. Of course the best most powerful autophagy would come from just water and salt. He did mention that he’s still using oil in his coffee on a more recent video. Sorry I can’t give a good link list, I watched so many. He didn’t actually say that this stuff might be better later, I guess I drew that conclusion because he’s personally doing it now still.
This is a phase.
Your skin has been stretched for years or decades of being fat and it’s gotten older as you have gotten older.
When you lose the weight quickly at an older age, loose skin and wrinkles show up in force. Jowls, saggy neck, etc…
This will pass as you keep on - I’ve found fasting and exercise force the body to be more efficient and it starts rebuilding. Careful though because fasting will actually age your features even more before the refeed fills you back up.
A few cycles of fasting and refeed and it’ll catch on and give you the youthful appearance you’re looking for.
Exercise likewise forces the body into a “building” state and helps fix the look of aging.
Make sure you hydrate and take your salts - then increase your protein and fat intake so your body stops losing and hits steady state - it’ll balance your look out after that.
Guys your input has been invaluable. It’s interesting to see how others think about these things too. I hope I didn’t come across as vain etc it just got me to thinking, if two weeks of keto seemed to ‘age’ me so fast was I doing the right thing. Was keto right for me…but if these things are transient then it’s worth persisting. Plus I’m only a 2 week keto baby…there’s a few weeks to go possibly before fully adapting and hitting all the true benefits!
The comment about Dr Berg made me Chuckle. While I’ve followed his videos intensely for advice I always did think he always looks pale and tired, almost like his eyes are burning to stay awake . That’s how I feel/look most days!
Before keto: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . After keto:
What’s the problem again?
Talking from my own personal experience here - I notice a massive difference in my appearance when I fast now. Definitely good to stay off that for now. Keto has actually made my appearance much ‘fresher’ but when I fast I totally notice it. I look kinda tired and like you said ‘grey’ and my skin dries out. Fasting can be extremely stressful on a body that has no fat to lose… Just like you, I have no more weight to lose so maybe you just need to consume more calories and more often. I fasted for the first time in weeks just this Saturday, and omg by the end of the day I looked and felt like shit won’t be doing that again in a hurry!
Another thing to consider is collagen powder and MSM. I recently started taking MSM on a daily basis because of dreaded keto hair loss and omg the difference in my skin is amazing!!
Just my take on things…Good luck!
I think part of the reason for what your describing about physical appearance (e.g. eyes sinking into skull, skin looking wrinkly ect.) is lack of fat soluble (liposomal) vitamins that you get from grass fed meats, butters, milk and organ meats. High sugar diets mimic those vitamins, that is why you go back to “looking normal and evening out?”
When my husband first reached the weight he’s at now, 142 lbs at 5’10 and 54 years old, he definitely did look older, jowlier, and more drawn in the face then he had when 15 lbs heavier. He didn’t like it at all and wanted to add some pounds but I really liked the way his physique looked and so he stayed trimmer for me. It took a bunch of months but somehow it all got redistributed back and now he actually looks younger and more vibrant in the face then when he was fatter. Even his colour is better.
I’m WEAK ^^^^^
And Shawn Baker (carnivore, MD, extreme athlete) is hawwttt -brains AND brawn
I suppose it’s individual about the facial appearance. I look much better when I fast. (but then, haven’t done any over 22 hours). Each time I have a long non-eating window my facial features accentuate and my cheeks subside and my face looks more feminine and eyes actually look bigger so it’s flattering.
Same here. It is a little frustrating. I’m hoping it sort of works itself out with time and moisturizer.
May I humbly suggest you’re watching the wrong videos? Here’s from the 2019 Low Carb Denver conference. Not a crappy visage in the group.
Wow that’s brilliant that you can still fast. The leaner I got, the harder it got for me!
Dr. Berry and Dr. Yang mentioned that if you don’t have weight to loose, it may not be the best thing to do.
I don’t see any changes really. I only have about 15 pounds to lose and it’s frustrating, however I’m going to keep pushing on. I do want to get rid of the wrinkles in my stomach. I don’t have much of a stomach thank goodness, but it’s wrinkly like an 80 year old woman! UGH.
I can’t believe I’m posting these. Green hat is after two months.
No, don’t get me wrong. Last time I had like 18-19 hour window was over a month ago, I dont do it often, I always try, start the day/week, etc. and then give in. I’m not as lean as I used to be when I did my excercise and running routine last year and I have to try to compensate it with eating better and less, but oh, it’s impossible, I’m the least motivated person here I think and with the least will-power. I don’t think I belong to this forum, I’m just trying to read stuff for my brain to convince me it’s absolutely vital for me to start keto, paleo, whatever less carb than I eat every day. :(
I think your waist and tush definitely look smaller.
Cool beans! That’s inspiring!