Ok, so I need to speak up a little because this thread and general attitude is very bothersome to me. I’m not a knight in shining armour, but this really rubs me the wrong way. Also, I apparently can’t make short posts.
Bunny is actually one of the very few people that made me want not only to really dive into the low-carb world, but also opened up my eyes about many, many interesting facts, starting with a fascination for everything microbiota related, to name only one of the various subjects she brought up. She is a trove of highly specific knowledge that almost no one on this forum can match. Her posts are sometimes intense, and she often references stuff that my yet-still-not-expanded enough English medical vocabulary has a hard time grasping (as a non native English speaker), but she does extensive research that is always backed up for anyone who’s interested. Her posts on this forum have been invaluable to me. I might not always get how she makes her conclusions, mostly because I don’t always have the capability of combing through every study she quotes (neither the time nor the medical know-how as stated earlier, though I’m getting better at it over time!), but I think she more than earned my trust on her critical mind, and I would be surprised if other people didn’t appreciate her contributions as much as I do. That doesn’t mean you have to agree on every data interpretation she makes, but systematically shutting her down because she doesn’t follow a specific dogma is pretty lame. I’m aware I’m not a representative of any group, but I, for one, am super thankful for her general contributions, which are amongst the rare ones I’m actually looking forward to read, and one of the reasons I actually registered on this forum.
That one made me laugh out loud, so thanks for that. For months now, Bunny has linked to a ton of studies. EVERY SINGLE TIME, people choose not to read them, and then ask for more proof, or decide the study will be bad without even clicking the link. Seriously. The website keeps count of how many people clicked on links. I can’t even tell how many times the ONLY click was… mine. So she advances theories based on actual research, and sure, you don’t have to care about said studies or think they’re legit for whatever reason, but pretending that she doesn’t provide any is ludicrous, and dismissing them without even looking at them is both pathetic and seriously hypocritical. No wonder she kind of gave up. Especially since a lot of people here have zero issue with weak studies that support their own beliefs. That’s dogma at its finest, and that is, in fact, something that turns people away. I long hesitated to register to the forums (even though I have been reading it for a year before I finally created an account) SPECIFICALLY because of the various members here who are not only very dogmatic, but base everything on their biases with a very very narrow mind. That just is ridiculous, especially on a forum that pretends to have the motto “show me the science”… “you know, if it backs up my already held convictions”. Like the great Georges Diggs says, you can’t be a good scientist if you can’t change your mind when new data is avalaible that contradicts what you held to be true (that guy’s awesome).
It’s also funny that many refuse to look at her studies on the basis that some might be biased ('cos the keto ones aren’t? mmmh ok then). There are some people in the low-carb community who have been talking about the danger of overeating protein for a while now. On the top of my head, I can think of someone like Dr. Rosedale who has some pretty interesting lectures on the subjects, some of which gasp even happened during low-carb conferences. As always, you don’t have to agree with everything someone presents, but appeal to authority isn’t stronger because it’s a loved character like Dr. Berry rather a less known one like Dr. Rosedale. Come on.
(Also a note on Zoe Harcombe who did a very nice conference on fiber being unnecessary, which was really cool until you realize she completely ignored the last 10 years on research on the microbiota. Just saying.)
No. Just no. Of all the forum members, Bunny has been the subject of more personal attacks than pretty much anyone else. A lot of them from posters on this thread. I mean, some people have even created whole threads that could be renamed “I hate Bunny’s theories let’s shred them together please”. This is ridiculous. Some people go on threads just to snap at her even if they have literally nothing to say on the actual thread subject, they just want to show how much they don’t like her. I do not understand why she’s still a member of this community. If I were in her shoes, I’d have left a long time ago, laughing all the way about the ignorance of fools, but that’s just how I react to things. The fact that she is still here, still sharing her knowledge, and still taking the time to actually answer people’s question is pretty astonihing to me, and I’m grateful for that. But trying to reverse roles, that’s low. Disagreeing is one thing, pretending she’s somehow the one being hostile is frankly disingenuous. If you were being poked with sticks every time you open your mouth, you might lose patience and tell people to stop. That wouldn’t make you the bad one.
Now overall I do think having many different voices and opinions is super important. It enables ones to make better choices by looking at the pros and cons of various arguments, by researching subject matters, by broadening one’s mind. But that only works when people are not super dogmatic about their beliefs, and there is seriously a LOT of that in the low-carb community. I have no problem with someone telling me they’re vegan, but I do have a problem with the one telling me I should be one too and trying to make me see the light of their way. Same goes for keto. Some people in this community can be incredibly narrow-minded, it’s like the moment they understood fat is good and carbs should be reduced, they now feel like they’re holding the ONE TRUE WAY OF EATING and anything that disputes that is the devil’s work and should be ridiculed, dismissed, avoided and shunned. Carnivores can be especially bad at that, though of course not all of them, and of course not the only ones. I mean, I met a woman who was shocked to see me eat a square of 90% dark chocolate because there is technically sugar in it so that couldn’t possibly be keto. They’re everywhere, oh my!
So yeah, I’m sorry it took so long to write (and read, probably, though I doubt many did) but this is something that has been annoying me for a while and I felt like I had to speak up. I post once in a blue moon anyway, I guess it’s time for me to retreat to my cat cave.