The site is back I see…
I did my experiments. Well, pork is effective for me but if I eat multiple meals, I still will eat much. Not too much just maintenance level (I am not active enough lately) so I can’t expect fat loss (it never happened eating this much and always happened eating less), oh well, I will get to that one day.
Adding dairy makes things worse as I already knew but finally I run out of my mascarpone and quark and I never eat much from the others now.
It seems eating 1.5 pounds of meat a day isn’t hard at all even if I use mostly pork… That was a new information to me but not exactly shocking just a bit surprising. I usually can eat very little fatty pork at once, it’s so satiating… But as my body counts its calories very diligently, I just get hungry in 1-2 hours again. I still consider this (meat, mostly pork, eggs and very little dairy) my best option. I tried to go back to OMAD but couldn’t. Yesterday I ate around 6pm first but it still couldn’t eat a big enough meal. I could eat big meals all my life but it’s super hard without plant carbs and I just stop when I am barely satiated. So I get hungry soon.
I read so often that people on keto get hungry less often. It’s definitely not true for me. Much carbs? 3 hours (or more, it depens. OMAD is easiest with much carbs for me). Low-carb? 3 hours. Keto? 3 hours. Carnivore? 1-3 hours, extremely rarely (when my body can’t decide if it’s enough for OMAD, I guess) more. It’s good as I usually can keep my small eating window on carnivore but the many tiny meals still bother me. I try to train myself to eat when I truly need, hunger isn’t enough (or required. my hunger isn’t that reliable).
But I probably would have less problems with more proper meat. But my supplies are limited now, I still have “plenty” but who knows when I will go shopping in the city again? Next time I will buy more. I never ever ate this much pork and it didn’t even feel much. I have no idea how much I would need ideally but I slowly break my meat sparing general attitude. It’s not hard when I have a chuck roast, it’s almost irresistible 
Alvaro didn’t feel the pull so I ate almost the whole thing. It still only lasted 2 days only and I can’t put much more into my mini oven at once. And Alvaro’s mom thinks roasting 1.5kg meat is too much! I think it’s way too little, 5kg would be nicer, I could put some back to the freezer that way… (But she thinks 1 kg vegetable is too much as well and Alvaro doesn’t start cooking without 2.5-3kg… It’s still too few calories so he eats a lot of more substantial stuff with it. For 4 days but it wouldn’t do working a lot on a dish that disappears right away.)
What people with families do? I seem to eat a ton all alone on my best days, cooking takes a lot of time (not so much effort on carnivore but still, I need to check my meat, swap, add water… I would love it to last for many days).
Well it was so, so much worse with vegetables. Sometimes hours of work for a thing that leaves both of us quite hungry. So we needed many other things. I should have realize things earlier. But I probably wasn’t ready yet.
I obviously still love eggs but I don’t want scrambled eggs or sunny side ups now. I eat deviled eggs, boiled eggs and pancakes. When my chuck run out, I switched to roasted chicken thighs and chicken liver, it was nice. Now comes some pork stew. I don’t know how you call the thigh. Isn’t ham for the cured version? We call it thigh here. It’s way leaner than chuck but should be good enough for stew and I will use it for Alvaro’s roasts, I keep all the wonderful chuck. Last time I found a lean chuck part, that was his.
Alvaro is well enough to work again so I don’t feel any temptation to eat before 2:30. And not much even at that time as it’s still a bit early for my lunch. But as I wrote, 6pm is still too early to guarantee a modest day if I am not restrictive with my food choices. Stupid dairy but I had it and my pork run out… I have no regrets as usual.
I didn’t do exactly carnivore after my pork run out (it almost always happens) but I was close enough to be mildly pleased. But I expect better from me. Today I have pork again, not much as poor stew needs as much meat as possible, the slab is below 1.4 kg and I will take a slice off… I remember when we made beef stew using 0.9 kg meat (exactly 2 pounds), it was so tiny for all that work and time…
Finally I weightlift again. But I didn’t do my whole workout at once (not like it’s much). I am very bad with restarts.
Oh, salt! I put a half teaspoon of salt and some, not very much spice (with a little salt in it. it couldn’t be much) on my ~1350g chicken (with bones) and it was a nice amount.
I will try to eat very simple and calculate my sodium intake one day…
My end of winter desire towards juicy veggies and fruits stopped when I started to eat much meat. I still gladly bite into a slice of juicy raw vegetable but I don’t feel the need to eat more than a little. That’s good. Last time I had a carbier day I ate 4 oranges due to very strong desire for them… And that’s not good. Well, I am fine with it occasionally, I have some idea about my limits… But not now, I must be strict now. If eating my big favs only is strict
Oh I accidentally tested my tolerance to dairy. I don’t understand. I usually feel a little nudge after some more than minimal lactose. But I drank 1 liter of milk and had some other dairy with lactose in a few hours (I didn’t do that since my childhood) and I felt perfectly fine after. I try to forget it and not going near milk again if possible. Alvaro skipped drinking milk for many years but now he loves it again for his desserts so we often keep some at home. Stupid modern milks last for long too. But I can do it. It was an exceptional case.
I actually stopped having lactose for a long while at some point so I wouldn’t be surprised if I had problems with it. Alvaro said he had a few years ago… But nope. Maybe all the cream and whatnot in the last few years helped?
I can understand the fruit tolerance (the 4 oranges felt fine too), my body rested enough. When it was grape season, I couldn’t handle a few balls alone (just with fatty protein afterwards), I was surely overwhelmed (despite I ate way less fruit than before I tried carnivore).
Yeah, I definitely don’t support that. Not like I could afford it but it’s really something I just don’t do. I don’t buy “normal” commercial eggs either.
Too bad I buy meat from not the right sources, sometimes I wonder I should eat more protein rich plants (it makes no sense to eat the mostly carb ones) but that’s very much not good for me until I am too fat. And I am selfish…
I don’t see veal and other beef or dairy different, it’s the same bad (or good on a good farm) life. The calf suffers for a shorter amount of time at least. And it’s one big animal not many small like chickens…
But I avoid thinking about this nowadays, I have too few options. I do what I can even if it’s not much and I will do it a bit differently when I will have more money. But I don’t usually know how the animals were kept when I buy something. I just suppose it’s bad by default as it’s logical. I prefer seeing the animals with my own eyes (or at least the farm or something) but that’s rare.
(started 13 weeks ago).
just the right texture just the right strength.
not me tho 
