Ugh is right.This semester I have two sections of “Composition for Engineers and Others Who Hate to Write” a.k.a. Technical Communications.
I did switch to a stand up desk last year. It helps my antsy-ness some, but I’m also more easily distracted when I work standing.
I am definitely procrastinating on grading right now. ~sigh~
In a couple Facebook chats I’m senior resident and most frequent poster! 
only this week did FB start suggesting these chats and most of the participants are a week to a month in, taking weekend breaks. One of two have been in the woe for a year.
Goodness! And here I’m one of the newbs!
@Fangs I feel like reposting there, from you! Also @FrankoBear and @PaulL. I learn so much in this forum! 
I made/ate cow tongue for dinner last night. My second youtube video documented the event, always looking for input if you have any and are interested. If not, that’s ok /wink. Carnivore on!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i56GZDriCeY
P.S. Welcome to the club @PaulL , kind of surprised it took you so long 
It was a number of factors. But now my sister is trying carnivore, so she buys and cooks a lot more meat. She has also been reading that carnivore can help heal nerve damage, so she really started encouraging me to eat carnivore to treat my Lyme disease neuropathy. Since I already wanted to go carnivore, I took the opportunity and ran with it. I’m really enjoying myself.
And I suspect a meat diet is likely to help my ankle heal better. We’ll see, anyway.
It could. When my ankle was broken, I went full on carnivore and also took Ancestral Supplements Beef Organs as well as their Bone & Marrow. My doc was surprised that I healed in 6 weeks. Although I’ve seen “6 weeks” come up in search results as pretty common. Still made me feel good and like I did something right
Met up with my buddies in Palestine Texas and had a big party. Lots of beer, hard liquor, hamburgers and sausages. Got some strange looks when all I drank was water and all I ate was a couple of hamburger patties and a couple of sausages. When I told them I was trying to heal my body through nutrition they were very accepting of it.
We rode our motorcycles down to New Orleans, 430 miles. When we got settled into our rental the gang ordered pizza so I walked down to a store and picked up some sausage and cheese. The sausage wast as clean as I would prefer but it was the best I could find.
I’m amazed how this woe has taken away all of my cravings. These past two days I have had absolutely no temptation to eat or drink anything that is not good nutrition for my body. Foods that in my previous diet life were my favorites, mean absolutely nothing to me. This just blows my mind. I had determined that if I can find something that I’m willing to eat then I’ll just fast rather than cheat.
Nice video! I especially loved watching your dog wait patiently for his share 
when I cooked tongue my dog was the same way! In fact, ever since I started eating carnivore, I’ve been her best friend.
You mentioned that you took tongue to a party. Good idea. I wonder how my church people would like it.
I love that too. In fact when we stopped on the road, if there was nothing in the place that fit my woe, I actually felt a little relieved. The one boiled egg was enough, and then I would just wait till evening and have my liverwurst and cheese. This woe has freed me from any obsession with food.
But what could help my mystery right heel ache? 
We went for a little walk, it wasn’t fun when I wasn’t distracted. I really need to do some healing meditation, I keep forgetting…
I am hungry early again, WHY? But I distract myself as far as I can. I already won’t eat before 1pm 
But I won’t wait until 3pm either. Made fried pork liver with sour cream. Not tasty. Pork liver and hit and miss for me, sometimes it’s great, sometimes not at all. Sour cream was supposed to help Oh well, it’s nutrition, I can eat a little at time and maybe time does good to it. It took a surprisingly little amount of time, maybe it’s not well done yet…? But it’s all brown inside. Whatever, I don’t need to eat much of it at once.
I took out the precious beef (the cheapest cut, of course but it’s good for stew…) from the freezer and will make a stew soon! I need a tiny almost-break from pork. I will eat a little leftover pork but very little as Alvaro needs some and he is willing to eat the leanest part of the (really not fatty) pork shoulder.
Apart from getting hungry early and therefore having too many meals with too much hunger, it’s quite chill. I don’t have any kind of inclination to eat non-carni food (since the old fav dish 
we still have some but I am done with it for now). It’s nice. I can’t have the same with coffee, apparently… Oh well, I choose my battles. I do try to keep my coffee intake low on most days and I don’t start with it first thing in the morning but I need a better time to skip it for days in row.
It’s wonderful indeed! I already had it subtly with keto. Before I could do it more than for one day, I had single “keto days” when I couldn’t contain my chocolate cravings. I probably had a phase after I learned to make (not-quite as it had no cocoa butter) chocolate. I ate a lot. Not super much, there are people who has it worse but in my opinion, it was excessive. And whenever I woke up and kept my carbs low, I didn’t want it. It was quite amazing.
Later I could go keto and I lost this. I ate a lot of chocolate on keto I am sure (I don’t have clear memories, you see. but I ate it almost every day with banana, for example. anything to please my self who felt I only made things stricter and worse. this little thing did the trick)… And I developed some smallish peanut addiction…
And then came carnivore. And I didn’t even thing about peanut or chocolate or anything. I still liked a few raw vegs but it wasn’t so hard to avoid them when I was determined. Later I decided carnivore-ish is better for me, that allowed for 2 slices of cucumber at lunch or something. (By the way, it’s amazing how little - zero - inclination I have towards veggie eating right now. I ate some in the last months and they felt wonderful. I couldn’t do carni days even when I tried. But it’s over, apparently.)
But most items? Nothing when on carnivore.
If I start to eat some more carbs, things change. I still don’t want vegs beyond a minuscule amount of raw ones, usually but peanuts come back. Chocolate… I lost interest in it for several month or maybe longer after my first on/off carni times (as I never ever could stuck to it for more than 2 weeks but I tend to come back very quickly when I go off) but it came back. And then it went away again… I had this with some old fav high-carb items after I went low-carb. I was fine for 5 years, got a short phase and avoided the item in question again…
So I had this effect with low-carb, keto and carnivore but the latter was the most dramatic. It turned out carbs mess with me. It affect my satiation quite much but my desires too. I get rebellious, less satisfied, way more prone to eat off if I add back some plant carbs. My old keto level was way too high so carnivore was surprisingly calm and chill. (When I had tempting food to eat. I had problems with lack of supply in the beginning and for a long time I got bored of meat too quickly so I was there, very hungry, not being able to stomach any meat, possibly eggs and in the last cases, anything… Variety helps a lot but when I wasn’t experienced yet, I typically went off at this point. I didn’t care - as long as the items weren’t really bad for me, my health and well-being is too precious -, I just wanted to stop being so hungry! I am glad those times are over. I have bad moments but rarely and I always find some okay option.)
Stupid non-animal carbs. They can ruin the day, even a little (keto) amount. A few grams can’t do it to me, thankfully So I can eat whatever I really want if I can keep the amount tiny. Especially that it’s not a normal thing for me to crave random carby things often.
(I almost kept it short and then I had to go down on memory lane again… )
Same. Surreal, really. When I was a newbie, I used this word all the time, I just couldn’t wrap my head around my own changes. It was a great change, I got really enthusiastic and that helps with a new woe a lot. Not like I had any problems beyond being bored or not having enough of meat but they can be worked on. But I felt good on carnivore (and anywhere close to it) every time, since day #1. Lucky Sometimes the first 1-2 days weren’t as good as normal ones (I blamed the previous carbs) but it was still good just not as good as it could be. It usually just affected my satiation.
Nice idea for us who usually can fast though I would say it depends. And I like to be prepared when I am not sure I will find good food. I don’t get suddenly, strongly hungry when fat adapted but I still get hungry and it’s not always the type that allows me to fast for a few more hours… And when hungry, I am more easily tempted. So I like bring my own food. But it must be a substantial amount as a little just make me hungrier. Except maybe something almost pure fat.
Ginger on the other hand didn’t wait patiently. It wanted the little nuked liquid from the beef IMMEDIATELY Despite she just finished the cooked liquid from the defrosted pork liver…
Lovely kitty, she has the biggest attention need from(?) our 4 and she is always around, ready to eat or get petted. Sometimes she wants the pets more.
FINALLY, I came here hungry so I could postpone my first meal by quite a long time and I even had a good time while doing so 
I won’t eat before 2pm now, probably. Great. But my hunger is soft anyway, it’s just stronger when I exercise and being in the kitchen gives me ideas I don’t need…
no, mostly one will never read that zc people advocate meal amts actually on this lifestyle I actually haven’t seen that more relevant on any of my zc forums? hmmm, one should watch what they read about carnivore LOL alot of that stuff is whack and not true out there HAHA as I know you know, lol.
some new people think they need 3 meals per day when starting, yea normal to think that, but many truly hit 2 meals per day very fast.
remember rule #1 of carnivore, eat all you want, any time, any way you want it and don’t lock yourself ever into any set schedule we feel we might want to lock ourselves into…just eat with the flow of the day every single day and this is carnivore, which will of course bring out our own personal eating plan per day with time on plan.
HEY HEY HEY DID I MISS SOMETHING? Paul are your ZC now?
I been lack on keeping up just do to BS going down in my life, lol, so I am kinda off clue on it all right now but trying to play catch up.
We call your Carnivore Paul now?
@JJFiddle, no noob for you here, you are a great carnivore LOL
In fact you were one who set onto zc very easily and transitioned without much of a mental battle from what I read from your super early posts, your journey has been a great one to read about!! I love how you dragged your hubby along kinda also
----------today is simple
giant Tbone steak for first meal later
second meal, making big ol’ roaster chicken for hubby. He can make whatever small sides he wants with it but I will eat up on some of this roaster chick too. OK food day done for me
The liver didn’t get much better but it wasn’t hard to eat some… I took soft-boiled egg breaks though
Today’s lunch at 2pm was “this and that” as the beef stew was still cooking. Leftover pork, liver, Vienna sausage with a little hard egg inside (Alvaro happily brought it home yesterday. apparently the local supermarket realizes what cheese is. it used to have NO proper cheese a few years ago, nowadays there are a few expensive sliced ones but now, a special very aged cheese for a good price? wow. it’s orange and flavorful), eggs, the usual creamy and eggy coffee… It wasn’t a big meal even with 4 eggs, I am not satiated at the moment but it will be fine, I already added more and more items, I had enough. It’s so much better when I have a decent amount of something I like but it’s not so trivial now.
Even without satiation (it will arrive in no time, probably. if not, I check my beef stew. no idea how much time it needs) my insides feel the after-meal goodness
@Fangs Thanks, I feel very “steady as a rock” these days.
Couldn’t sleep lastnight so went back up to @FrankoBear’s post of a little animation which took me into Instagram. (I lost FB and Instagram in May when my phone died, and I’m delighted that an Instagram link takes me back into that account!)
I spent a few happy hours watching reels on IG. But here’s a wacko thing- why do carnivores inevitably post themselves eating pounds of straight butter and dozen-egg omelettes along with their breakfast ribeye, then coming back 2 hours later for an equally huge lunch, then a similar dinner? I know some of us eat an occasional large meal but this sensationalism is just goofy. 
We’re back to work tonight at the steakhouse, tomorrow at the winery and the steakhouse, Sunday at the church and Monday, a noon memorial and my regular students. Good to have gotten back to Texas a day early for a little rest before jumping out of that frying pan!
I’m glad to know that. I’m not sure, but I think I picked up on the three meals a day thing from a video discussion between Charles Washington and Kelly Hogan. But never mind. I’m glad to know it’s not important. Plus, there’s no way I’m going short on calories in the two meals I’ve been eating, lol!
My favourite line of Kelly Hogan’s is “the solution to most problems is to eat more meat!” I doubt any carnivore is going to disagree with that!
Yeah, guess you did. I came down with Lyme disease in July, and my sister has been promoting carnivore as a way of healing the neuropathy. Also, I broke my ankle a month ago (because of the neuropathy), and I’m hoping the protein and fat will help it to heal.
I’m glad my sister is now championing carnivore, because she does the shopping and most of the cooking, and having her support just makes it all a lot easier.
I hope I am done I had a few extra after dinner bites and I had a not zero calorie drink before noon but otherwise it was 2MAD… Almost a pound of meat, a bit over 130g protein, fat was probably about the same. Much better than before.
I managed to burn the stew a bit (I left it alone on the new, more powerful induction cooker… oh well) but even the worst pieces were so very tasty! And super satiating If I want to pay some fat-loss help, I buy more ruminant meat
It’s a tad oversalted (so it needs as little as a roast? oh maybe not, Alvaro started it and he salted it too… oh well) but nothing some lovely sour cream can’t help! I planned little egg dumplings or crumbles (100% egg fried in some fat, maybe butter?) with it but I was hungry and just ate it without at that point.
So, a quite okay day. Had better ones but I can be quite pleased with such ones. The beef was surprisingly tasty. I totally forgot its taste, I hadn’t had any since who knows how many months, probably several. I am bad with time.
Shock value, probably, there. Many people can be seriously triggered by that.
Eating so much and often? No idea. Showing off? It pays? (Some people make big money with their eating channels.) Compensating some emotional/mental problems? I don’t really care so I don’t think about it deeper.
I managed to find a few problems where it’s not a good idea but sometimes it’s not more meat but more fatty or less fatty meat Or a different kind of meat… Or a bigger variety of it. Though tasting this beef stew I am not surprised many of the folks here have less problems with meat boredom, it is good! And I do love and prefer pork. But it’s lovely to take a break and this stew of mine, burnt and all is really tasty and very, very satiating. I need some pork vs ruminant showdown one day. Too bad I need 2 different days for it and some factors inevitably change. Multiple showdowns then.
And the answer of most of MY dietary questions is more eggs or sour cream, actually
I am no carnivore, though. Just a sympathizer or something. With many carni days in winter and in spring.
Food yesterday
Stair running to start the day but tummy was a bit upset by yesterdays steaks and i wasn’t overly enthusiastic. Food was 1mad today. Wanted to allow my stomach to settle down before eating. I put a brisket in the slow cooker overnight and had half of it this early evening. It was like pulled beef, just fell away with the fork. Still prefer steaks as the taste is so much more intense. Just though it would make a change… not sure i need a change anymore!
Then hubby came in and said “Your box came.” I’d completely forgotten I ordered Butcher Box for the first time while we were on the road! I have missed my grassfed meat that I used to get from Pennsylvania.
) 2 whole chickens, 2 pkgs chicken thighs, 1 boneless pork loin, and a pound of shrimp. About 300 bucks. We shall see. They’re counted in units, you can order 14 units with the large box.
Anyway @Geezy56 I still have the pork belly in the freezer, and someone somewhere posted an easy carnivore prep- Just rub the whole thing down with salt, wrap it and refrigerate a couple weeks. He didn’t add anything else (but using smoked salt and lava salt together might work well ) . I’d like to try that and see how it comes out, maybe I’ll do that this week. At the moment the freezer is quite full!
I’ve forgotten whether you put it on the smoker at all.
@PaulL and @Fangs the 3 meals per day for carnivores was from science about dietary protein dosing. It’s to optimise amino acid uptake from digestion. It was in the STEM talk podcast (Dr. Donald Layman) I shared earlier.
[00:48:54] After describing his clinical trial that looked at supervised weight training for men and women in their 60s and 70s, Marcas asks Don for his thoughts on prescriptive dosing of exercise for older adults.
[00:51:45] Marcas asks Don if there is an optimal timing of protein intake relative to exercise to get the maximum benefit.
[00:53:42] Marcas mentions Don’s website “Metabolic Transformation,” and the work Don has done with his former student Dr. Gabrielle Lyon on the concepts of muscle centric health and protein centric diets.
[00:56:46] Ken asks Don to walk listeners through what happens while we sleep and why it is important to start the day with a substantial amount of protein at breakfast.
[00:59:21] Marcas asks, considering Don’s recommendation of forty grams of protein at breakfast, what Don generally eats for breakfast.
[01:01:46] Ken asks how many grams of protein people should aim for at dinner and lunch.
[01:03:29] Marcas circles back to intermittent fasting and time restricted eating and asks Don if he thinks they are effective strategies for weight loss and maintenance.
