Calling all slow losers!

[Darlene_Horsley]

IF= intermittent fasting
EF= extended fasting
NSV= non scale victory

WIKI: Acronyms

Note: Anyone who can see the little green pencil icon [image] in the post header ^^ can edit this wiki directly. This list was posted in our Facebook group by @carolT: Greetings, thousands of new and newish members. If you’re new to keto, it may be confusing just to get your head around some of the abbreviations we use here to save us hours of time typing and fighting with our auto-correct. I’d like to start you off with a cheat sheet of frequently used acronyms. Maybe someone can help transla…

[nxtime1]

Thanks
In your opinion, is fasting necessary for the keto diet?
I hate fasting!
Did the hcg and it worked but it sucked!
Want to try diffrent keto one that is healthy and not as extreme.
Have not yet started will be starting next week.

Any incite or advice for starting out?

[iloveferrets3]

Check out The Keto For Women podcast. That is her emphasis.

[nxtime1]

my husband is also a carb eater and sits and eats family size chips on a reg basis. Still slim. But not as healthy as he could be.
I feel your pain.

[Capnbob]

In your opinion, is fasting necessary for the keto diet?

I hate fasting!

NO - it is not necessary. In fact for the first couple of months at least, it is not even recommended. Get yourself properly fat adapted (your body expects fat NOT glucose for fuel and makes/uses ketones as primary fuel). This is if you are new to keto (I am assuming you’re new to keto as well as the forums). Sorry, if not.

On that assumption, the good news is, once you are fat adapted, fasting goes from a chore to a trusted tool. Check out the Zornfast threads (once a month) and see hundreds of people doing it together. There is a lot of banter and some drop early but many do long fasts (using significant excess body fat) and you’ll see that for most people each month it is pretty straightforward AND not painful in any meaningful way. Your body will change under keto and things you thought were impossible before become commonplace… like long, (pretty) painless fasts.

I’m into my fourth day of the April Zornfast now and 7 months ago I would have been lucky to do 12 hours, as obese as I was.

[nxtime1]

Thanks for the reply,
I have done the HCG which is a type of keto but am currently doing research in prep to start a more moderate keto.

I have done some keto things (adding mtc oil, cutting carbs) still have some food I am using up.

Then will start in true form.

Thanks again

Colleen

[twkltoz]

Well, I was feeling discouraged when I started reading this post. I am a very, very slow looser. I have been Keto for a year and a half and have only lost 10lb. I am 51 and weigh 265. But I feel good and no more inflammation. My blood ketones range from .3 to .8 on a regular bases and will spike to 1.4 on a rare occasion. I keep telling myself that I must have some crazy stuff that being keto is fixing. I have great blood work but high blood pressure. I am not diabetic, I am menopausal, I get good sleep, but have a lot of stress, but don’t have a lot of time to work out. I do not track my calories and macro’s supper close as there was an “issue” with food when I was younger and I do not need to go back there. I eat as little carbs as possible, but sometimes I just need that salad and maybe part of a potato(that is about once a month). I love the WoE and will not give it up, but just frustrated. Thanks for listening.

[akirby83]

My suggestion for all slow losers is to test their fasting insulin. That’s how we discovered that my wife is massively hyerpinsulinemic even on keto, and that is a strong explanation for her massive stall. In this case Keeping Calm and Ketoing On is not quite the correct solution, you may need an assist from big pharma (metformin). Peeps need to get these numbers tested so that they don’t blame themselves for a stall if the underlying issue is hormonal.

[IF_keto_lifestyle]

Thanks Adam, I have my first after keto blood work to do and I will ask my doctor to add that.

[akirby83]

If your doctor is living in the stone age and refuses to order one, you can order through a site like LifeExtension for $30 or so. Well worth it to cut a stubborn doc out of the equation.

[Shine4me]

I can identify with that. If I stray, like you, joint pain goes through the roof. I’m here for the long haul even although I have not lost anything since January (6 months). I have decided to start OMAD once a week and 16/8 twice a week to see if that will help. Also perhaps dropping dairy - I hate the thought because I love cream🤪.

[Peter]

Drawn out convo … but such is messageboards

A couple of months ago I went away and got food poisoning. Gah. So I couldn’t eat for 2 days because I was throwing up and didn’t have any interest in food whatsoever. After I recovered, I felt really good and not hungry at all. So I decided to extend the 2-day fast I was already on involuntarily. Anyway I added another 3 days and felt great. I had to end it because of a social event.

So, I thought I should try fasting voluntarily next time. So I had dinner last Monday night and just had some breakfast Saturday morning (today). (4 1/2 days.) Well, I had a small handful of nuts so far because I heard you have to ease into it. Anyway, this time it was slightly more difficult because I felt that feeling to ‘get some food’ but realised it was a reflex. It was only mental and not physical. So I just went on with other activities and it was pretty smooth sailing. I actually felt great. Energy, no pain, flexible, awake, attentive. I’ll be doing this more in future. Thanks food poisoning! (only kinda…)

[smittenketokitten2]

All those years of low-cal dieting have wrecked your body and it’s going to take time to change.

Amen sista:raised_hands:t3: I have been doing keto for almost 3 months ( a few stints where I would throw in towel and just eat low carb) and I still haven’t lost weight like nada… i am 148 trying to back to 115 I am 5’1. I gotta keep up the motivation… I see all these radical (and fast) transformations I am like “wtf is wrong with me, does the universe just want me to be overweight” but I gotta tell myself 1. you have not gained weight:clap:t3: 2. if you stop now you will only be this much farther from your goals

good luck to the slow loosing honeys!!

[Ketodaisy]

I did Keto for a few weeks in April/May and lost 10 lbs. got off track over mother’s day weekend and switched to low carb. Gained 5 lbs back. Started Keto again early/mid September and lost the 5 lbs back, then I would bounce back and forth between losing 2 lbs, gaining 3 lbs (basically 143-146 lbs each day). Finally I started last week only weighing once a week. this week I lost another lb (142). It’s a little frustrating, but weight is only a small part of why I Keto, so I will Keto-on.

[LauraB85]

Hi! On Tuesday it will be my three and a half month mark. I have to say I’m right there with you. I initially lost quite a bit…then stalled for close to a month…now I am only losing a pound or two this last month or so…it is frustrating. Ive heard numerous folks say DO IF! Well…I’ve heard it enough that I think I’ll try it at my new week start point on Tuesday as I started the diet on a Tuesday. I’ll get back on here the following Tuesday to update and let you know if it helped. Trial and error

[LauraB85]

Well…after trying this out…I am still losing slow. The only thing I keep in mind at this point is I am not gaining so that is better then the opposite. Very frustrating though. Knowing your doing everything correctly and not losing is not very motivating when I see others enjoying a slice iog pie this holiday season.

[CatGirl]

I guess some of us (me included) are destined to be “slow and (somewhat) steady”. It really is kinda frustrating.

[LauraB85]

Do you keep track of your macros?

[islandlight]

I’ve lost about a pound a week in the past 18 weeks. But that’s an average. I’ve stalled twice, for a month each time. Some days I gain several pounds, but it comes off again in a day or two. I do get a bit frustrated, but I remind myself of the alternative: giving up and gaining LOTS of weight.

Another alternative of course would be to choose another diet. I know from experience how that will go. It will last about 2 hours–until my next snack. At least on keto I don’t feel like I’m starving. Feeling frustrated after a month is a lot better than feeling desperate after 2 hours.

Also, I acknowledge that I’m an impatient person, and the problem is in my mind. So I just stick with it.

[CatGirl]

Kind of? At first I put all of my data into Carb Manager to see my macros. I log about 3 times a week to make sure I’m not under on my calories. I keep to 20 whole carbs but don’t pay a lot of attention to actual macros. I know I’m never particularly over on fat or protein though. Part of “Page 4” (which is the plan my physician has me on) is actually not to track.