BewareEasterBunny -- DangerousCarnivoreApril

[Shinita]

Lol… You throw him a T bone

Well if it’s about amounts, you won
I buy twice as big packages for the same price and I put the whole thing in the oven. But it lasts for 4 days for me if I eat it normally.

I had my dinner. I am sooo predictable when I minimize dairy.
7 eggs, the usual ~400g pork, a little extra fat and a bite of sausage if needed, my usual mustard… And it’s a great day for me, just the right amount of food for a normal day. Sometimes I need much more, of course, I have no idea how other women eat less all the time…
It’s very nice pork, I learned the ideal size for roasting. It’s small enough to have lots of nice crispy outside but big enough to have inner juicy parts as well.
I am very sure it has chuck fattiness ratio despite it’s a theoretically leaner cut… It was just a tad leaner than what I prefer but I am not alone so I went for the fattier parts.

I lacked something after the pork so I ate an egg sandwich (one boiled eggs cut into two, mustard and 2 little slices of sausage on top) and decided I drink my name day beer now. Who knows if I will have this rare desire tomorrow? So I drank 100ml beer. No idea of the carbs, surely very little. I didn’t read the label in the hypermarket, so it is a quite bitter one… I have problems with bitter but it wasn’t overly bitter, it was fine. But it was sweet first. Of course. Nearly everything is sweet. It was okay. Alvaro was elated he got 230ml. We both considered our portion more than strictly enough but it was nice to have this much… We aren’t typical Hungarians. We are around the top if we sort countries for alcoholism and Covid made the situation (maybe not the ranking but the amount) way worse. But we know what it means to drink in moderation… Oh I planned a no-booze April? I forgot but it doesn’t really matter.

So everything is fine now. Oh I can’t finish with carbs so I ate a slice of bresaola again. So I had pork and a weeeee bit beef as well. And made chicken soup for the next days.

All is well food wise. Alvaro finally tasted the pork but there is plenty and I will buy more in a few days.

the only thing that sounded good was the crispy bits mingled with fat that were leftover in the cast iron pan from last night. Just scraped out and ate it all.

Sounds pretty understandable to me. Crispy bits? Fat? Such things tend to be good indeed.
If it’s “bad” to you, no matter how sarcastic or joking you are, I suspect your childhood wasn’t as hedonistic and fat-rich as mine!
The word “bad” couldn’t even cross my mind after eating crispy, fatty yumminess, they can’t exist at the same time.

[Karen18]

Blimey trying to keep up with all the posts is nigh on impossible when you’ve had 2 days out with work!

So so tired , not a lot of sleep over the last 3 nights but it is a full super moon and I never sleep properly when there 8s a full moon.

Stair runs done this morning then to CrossFit even though I wasn’t feeling it, I got into it eventually but mainly bar work today and thats not my favourite.

Picked up some masonery paint this afternoon, gone with spanish colours for my back extension.

Brunch was sirloin steak back bacon and eggs

Dinner was a bit of cheese followed by ham n eggs. Finally made some poached eggs @Carnivoor! Followed later qith some more cheese and ham.

Now I have restless leg syndrome. Driving me mad at the mo but it will hopefully ease off shortly.

[Septimius]

Now I have restless leg syndrome. Driving me mad at the mo but it will hopefully ease off shortly.

Hope that fixes up for you soon - do you normally take anything when you have it?

[SecondBreakfast]

I suspect your childhood wasn’t as hedonistic and fat-rich as mine!

LOL! You have no idea. My Mom was all about low fat/no fat, no processed sugar- only raw honey, cereal, fiber, vitamins galore, margerine, no eggs (or very few), no cholesterol, etc… The day of Daddy’s funeral, my Mom found out that Daddy and I used to covertly gobble 2-3 giant Hershey bars with almonds - every.single.week - she about died herself. That ritual was just during the week. Saturdays, we’d have another one - while watching “Creature Feature” and some other Vincent Price -hosted monster movie series. With Mom and Daddy, opposites did, indeed, attract. It wasn’t until around 2005 or so, that I discovered Atkins and eliminated sugar, and embraced fat. Wow, was that an odd transition. Now, I can’t see life without fat.

[Shinita]

I don’t blur out all the things, okay? There will be desserts mentioned. Sometimes I wonder what to do when my word is perfectly fine for me as it’s carnivore but it originally means a carby thing…

And I wrote much again.

I can’t even imagine a low-fat life… I had a super low-fat day once (fasts don’t count) and it was just as horrible as I imagined. Normal folks here eat lots of fat. But sadly, much sugar too. And other carbs, of course.
We had margarine too, for some reason… There is a not so bad tasting brand, not cheap, we had that. I don’t know why, we spent too much money on food and we had no problem with animal fat, Mom was a peasant girl and loved pork fat (the solid fat tissue, salted, it’s a very popular item here). But we still used margarine and sunflower oil… Sigh. Cholesterol never was a problem, I heard about that stupid myth decades later (probably it was mentioned here or there earlier but no one really cared, I think. definitely not my family).
Cereal never was a food to me but it’s a modern thing, we probably didn’t have anything like this in my childhood, before 1989 when Hungary was a tiny socialist country without western stuff on the shelves. It was another world.
But in all world, there were candies. And I quickly formed the habit of eating sweets in the end of every meal. Sometimes the meal itself was sweets only, I don’t know how I did that as I never want sweets when hungry since ages. But if I skip carbs, even this decades old habit automatically disappears. I probably will need a very long time to change even when I have some more carbs. It’s better than it was but it was totally horrible. And there are people who do it worse, amazing…
At least my fav sweets always had a lot of fat and ideally much protein too. No wonder that some of my top favs were based on egg yolks. Mom made great eggy desserts and we had the eggiest pancakes and sponge cakes (until I started to make them… eggiest among “normal” people then).
Traditional sweets are so, so wrong. Even chocolate (that is a perfect candidate to be very low-carb) is ruined with unnecessary sugar, it’s sad. Even sweets with erythritol are ruined with way too much erythritol (not like I am really fine with little erythritol but it’s better than 54% of the weight). But people can eat 100% sugar so no wonder their sweets tend to be insane in my eyes.

Sorry, it was very much not carnivore. I should stick to my carni pancakes and sponge cakes. Fangs wrote about non-carni pancakes not long ago and I had to stop to imagine them. I pretty much failed. Because I forgot the vegan pancake I made once. All my other pancakes were super eggy as every pancake should if you ask me. But we have thin pancakes so it’s easier to make them quite eggy. Still, everyone puts a ton of flour and liquid into it per egg here. Mom was the big exception but I brought the eggy pancakes to new levels. Alvaro’s mom is normal. Her pancakes failed my test epically when I tasted them. She cooks and bakes great but we have some compatibility problems regarding carbs, pancake egginess and (to a way smaller extent) ideal meat portions. She believes in making plenty of meat (having two boys with good appetite might helped but Hungary isn’t the place where you get too little food from your host anyway. it’s usually the opposite problem especially in families. female anchestors often have some wildly crazy expectations especially if they see the descendants only occasionally, on big holidays. that is probably borderline abuse/harassment in many cases. even I had that in the past just very rarely) but her idea about plenty is a bit different from mine, no wonder as meat is a way bigger part of my meal. But it’s almost okay, it’s not a little amount for just a few people and I don’t need to be full in the end.

I ate a bit more btw, I felt a real need for more meat. Probably the last days, I don’t think they were as nutritious as usual, the meat part was quite low and eggs are great but they don’t have everything, I can’t even eat really many of them. I feel when I don’t do it properly (I think it’s for the protein and my body wants the right sources? but I don’t know. I just know that if I eat little meat and not many eggs, I will feel the need for more proper protein - egg or meat - in the end of day even if I am very satiated) unlike many people, apparently. And I go and eat some eggs or meat and the feeling disappears. So even if I can’t do the food amount right in the presence of more than minimal carbs, I can’t ruin my proper protein intake or what is that I exactly feel. But maybe it’s just the protein, no matter the source… But it’s super rare that I get much protein from something else than eggs and meat.
So my body does calorie and protein counting, apparently (and it typically has the same lower limits, it’s very reliable. if I could figure out my macros, I could predict if I will get hungry at night with a nice accuracy). I can’t do it nearly as well with tracking (and I can’t guess at all). It’s fine and dandy until I realize I need to eat more at 9pm (as today) and not at 1am, that’s not so good.
I still would like to eat only twice a day but I accept 3 sometimes if I must.

[Azi]

Yesterday was my Aniversary of being on a ketogenic diet for a year I started at 225lbs pre-diabetic, on blood pressure meds. On April 26th 2020

Like most I started off as keto but over time moving more to ketovore then finally starting carnivore in Feb this year.
Over the year I’ve dropped 89lbs from 225lbs now 136… my original goal was to back away from pre diabetes and my vanity goal was to get back onto my size 4 clothes since I had a dresser full I couldn’t bring myself to throw away. And get to 135 I have achieved both the first two goals got off my blood pressure pills and and am 1 lb away from goal. Then as mentioned previously I’ve got rid of a rash on my leg and my
seborrheic dermatitis Carnivore has made things so simple for me I don’t have cravings and my wants now are meat based…

Todays food: I way over ate it was fried orange roughly it was so good though followed that up with flanken style ribs.
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[Septimius]

Over the year I’ve dropped 89lbs from 225lbs now 136… my original goal was to back away from pre diabetes and my vanity goal was to get back onto my size 4 clothes since I had a dresser full I couldn’t bring myself to throw away. And get to 135 I have achieved both the first two goals got off my blood pressure pills and and am 1 lb away from goal.

This is incredible - well done!

[Bubby1]

@Azi WOW Congrats on the weight loss, that is an epic achievement Happy Belated Aniversary!!! I have just started again…I started January last year and was doing so well…But then ended up drinking vodka and being drunk made me fall of the keto unicorn. ( Why have a horse when you can have a unicorn ) I’m back on the unicorn now and I’m looking forward to all the benefits. I Am so happy for you that your health is better as a result. Also, mmmmmm Ribs. I must buy some. @Fangs Hahaha Thanks Fangsy. Your always so welcoming and I’m glad you like the name I came up with. Your upbeat personality is inviting. @Karen18 Yummo, your food looks delicious. I hope you can get better sleep once the full moon passes. Oh no, you poor thing…Restless leg syndrome is the WORST!!! I suffer from it too. Do you take any supplements for it?? It’s annoying when you lay in bed and have to keep kicking your legs. ( It makes my nerves go funny) @Shinita Your food pics are always drool worthy too. I laugh because I’m trying to think of something I could say to you on here, but we already chat elsewhere so…Lol.. I’m just happy to be back on here. So anyway, I’m going strong. Enjoying good wholesome meat, I need to get some steak…Some good red meat. Do you guys eat steak by itself?? It is still yummy alone, but I’ve always adored condiments. Is Gravy allowed?? I would love to get some beef stock cubes too. So I can have something warm and salty. Anyway, hi to all and looking forward to the next thread. Rock on Carnivores

[Carnivoor]

Chicken n eggs for breakfast.

[Shinita]

Wow, great results! Congrats!

I am way heavier than when I went keto first (I gained that on carbier times and most of it very suddenly though I never ever did that before, still don’t understand… but still. keto never helped with fat-loss yet, I always lost fat on just low-carb despite carbs make me hungrier but it’s only one important factor and there were special times. I have practically no chance to lose fat on low-carb now). But I am sure carnivore is the way. And anyway, I am not right with too much carbs so I don’t really have options beyond having some occasional slightly carbier days (and doing carnivore-ish. super close but not quite, that works for me if I can avoid the slippery slope but it’s not slippery yet when I am very close. of course, it doesn’t mean I will add things just because I can. only with a good reason).

Oh well. Give me more energy and I will be quite happy to patiently wait for years to lose what I should lose. And gain some muscles. I lift today if my days old headache manages to go away. I suspect what I do wrong, not related to eating at all. There can be zillion reasons for my headaches as my body communicates problems mostly through them. Better than getting sick, that’s not allowed.

What it is, day 2 of carnivore-ish? Except my unrelated problems (feeling a zombie with headache), I am fine. I had no sugar poisoning to heal this time and I have my usual okay satiation. Not extreme where I have many tiny meals, just the right one. So it’s good. I want this to stay.

I send this before it gets big.
I think I am quite bubbly now for a zombie with headache. My life is dark as always but the outer layer is bubbly and hopeful.

Amy (@Bubby1), what, Keto Koala I just notice it now Lol. So… I heard about keto gravy in this forum so it exists. Normal gravy is obviously not even keto-friendly let alone carnivore. But I don’t think I ever ate gravy in my life or I don’t remember (probably some restaurant had it at some point…? my family surely didn’t do it) so I have not much idea about these things. My meat is perfect as it is and if not, I add eggs I am simple if it’s about my meat. I complicate my life with my desserts but that’s rare on carnivore. I might make mini cakes for me today, after all. I have name day! Tricky as I don’t have cream and only a bit of mascarpone but food challenges rarely stop me. But we will see. I plan an egg pudding main part. But I have no cream, just milk (not ideal) and a wee bit of mascarpone… Maybe I should just eat dessert pancakes, I already bake cake for Alvaro today (just a normal weekday one, his birthday will be later, that will be the slightly fancier one). And I bake bread too.
Btw when I was off, I made kind-of keto bread. Nope, I still don’t like it but with enough lard (or a ton of my beloved sausage spice) it’s edible. My carni sponge cake is way better and I can put lard on it just the same. The texture is different but that’s not a problem.
Once I managed to bake much sponge cakes and they got dry So I have kind of lady fingers too. If I ever want some dessert (or just get bored of everything else), I will make tiramisu, that’s a dessert that is ridiculously easy to make extreme low-carb. If one isn’t into sweetness, of course. I probably am not quite there yet but mascarpone with coffee is already sweet enough to me in pancakes so it’s promising.

IDK why I think about sweets now, probably the last days. And name day and birthday. They put my mind on a certain track. When it’s time to eat, that’s fine, I want eggs and meat then but mentally I like to make more complicated things. Sigh.

[Azi]

This is incredible - well done!
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Thank you

@Azi WOW Congrats on the weight loss, that is an epic achievement Happy Belated Aniversary!!!

Thankyou …im sure you’ll do great once your settled in again I used to lurk alot and I know you went through some real hard times with hospital food as well so im thrilled that you’ve fought through that and alcohol to find your way back thats more impressive to me… that shows internal strength and im so happy for you…and am gonna be right here cheering you on.

Wow, great results! Congrats!

Thank you…I think you went through so much last year as well with your husband in an accident and in hospital and you not being able to see him I can’t even begin to imagine how much stress that caused and cortisol and hormones no suprise your body decided to store weight…
But I read recently you had taken some of that off again so thats awesome.
I really do admire you. You bake you and make cakes and don’t eat them not sure I could be that strong .

I know how hard it can be when you have somone living with you that eats a different way so hats off to all of you on here that do it everyday you guys are incredible
I’ve seen Fangs have to tackle candy and all types of food.
I’ve seen SB have dinner parties and quests and cook for them all.
I’ve seen shanita cooking meals and cakes
I’ve seen vic say his cooks are cooking different meals for his workers.
All of you are doing amazing and I learn so much from you all so I want to say thank you.

[Fangs]

@Azi your story is wonderful and it is great to hear what it took for many to achieve their results and how we change. Great focus on you!!

AND THE…PREDATOR OF THE MONTH award goes to: VIC!

he ate the darn Easter Bunny in April!~ I give it a and I applaud you for thinking rabbit in this month and ya got it…your cooky is one fine cooky!!! Vic a great tip to your cooky when ya leave is warranted! You get NO prize with your Predator of the Month award but you get a hearty handshake from me!!!

Great posts on this thread we got a great support group happening for us. It gives us MORE carnivore power to stand strong behind what works for us and not against us!

[Fangs]

When @FrankoBear eats shark he might be in the running for PREDATOR OF THE MONTH award, he swims with them but now ya gotta eat some of them!

[daigo1]

i don’t know if this is kind of a weird question…but how do you know which animals in the world are safe to consume or not? are most animals unacceptable to eat by social restriction? (like we wouldn’t eat animals that are e.g. domesticated pets)

[Fangs]

Eating dog meat is considered to be regular around Asia, and Vietnamese do.

India areas cows roam the streets as ancestors etc. and not to be touched but elevated in stance so??? Does this go down in other countries? Again who are you and your culture beliefs??

Even now, cats and dogs are commonplace on many menus in Vietnam, Korea, and China . They’re eaten as solo meals or added to other meat dishes----

THIS IS PERSONAL to you. Many eat horse around the world. I am a horse lover and even if I went to say, Iceland, I would NOT eat a horse burger cause to my culture and life they are enchanting and a life issue for me but in the end, every single meat on the table is a more how you are raised and meat available in your country than it is ‘about domesticated’ pets ya know. I did try horse one time ‘to see’ but I could not make it a staple cause of ‘well, just me LOL’ but in the bitter end I trump all for survival I guess.

many say bunny is a domesticated pet? Is it? To you? Many love chickens as real pets and love them yet they are a staple menu item for most of the global world.

So it really is one of those who are you, what is your country of original and your personal feelings and more.

But to me, IF IT boils down to ‘end all be the friggin’ end of me or my family, darn right I am eating any ‘pets/livestock’ in my path no matter what the affiliation in my mind is about ‘pet vs food’.

Don’t tell my little dog this but he is fair game in the long run thru zombie apcolypse times HAHA

[Shinita]

Oh,. You think it was due to the accident? It indeed happened then… But HOW? My body can’t be able to make energy from nothing, I know that and I barely ate right after the accident… Well I did it later but not SO much… I don’t exactly know though… Maybe it was enough? Possibly. I don’t think my metabolism slowed down, there were no signs but as long as it wasn’t permanent…
It’s impossible to figure out what happened. But thanks! I like this idea that my body still work fine, it was a temporal problem due to the really insanely stressful time. It wasn’t even just my usual times with the accident on top, no, the problems piled up more. It was awful, I still get mental chills when I think of those times. The vast majority of the new problems quickly disappeared and indeed, I stopped gaining but as I ate better, it was no wonder. December is special. It’s good I am not really a comfort eater… But anyway, the best food to comfort me is my fav, pork… I don’t have that very special relationship with chocolate or something. I just liked the taste in the past. They never made me any happier. They gave me joy but almost any food I ever ate did that.

This very abnormal behavior of my body seriously upset me. The gain was bad enough but the fact that it happened so quickly without even eating super crazy in December (that I did all my life without a measurable gain. I have my limits, I can’t eat a ton every day for weeks but I still had quite seriously overeating, way too carby Decembers)… It was scary. I was worried my body broke somehow. And I even had very low-carb days galore and they didn’t help.

Yay. Hopefully I am not broken yet.

I know how hard it can be when you have somone living with you that eats a different way

It has both advantages and disadvantages, actually. With my personality, it’s not so great there are so many items that may tempt me… With only my own food, it would be ridiculously easy I imagine. But it would be sad to give up all the recipes I made in the last decade, I like to bake more interesting things than my 100% egg sponge cakes now and then as well…
And what would I make with the TONS of fruit in my garden if I was alone? I LOVE having dozens of different fruits. My blooming trees are beautiful and it’s exciting to watch them during the months. I baked a fruity cake today, Alvaro got happier, I got happier and I have one less jar on the top of a cupboard again, yay. Only a few hundreds to go! (I am so happy I persuaded Alvaro we don’t want kiwi plants. I keep doing my best to discourage him to buy very much extra fruits but one fruit can’t replace some other so it’s not that easy. There is some wriggle room but I need to make these cakes. And that’s fine.)

And Alvaro eats fatty! And he isn’t choosy! He even eats meat quite often just not very much. It could be so, so worse. Just because I can cook plant-based stuff, I don’t necessarily want to. I still do it many times but those are ridiculously simple dishes and rarely involve vegetables. I don’t cook vegetables. There are vegans who cook meat for their family. As a vegetarian, I definitely didn’t touch meat. And now I avoid veggies. I am selfish. I prefer to cook food for both of us. And I can do this, Alvaro simply adapts to me to some extent. Only what is okay for him but it’s enough for me to take it easy.
I admire the ones who do very low-carb while cooking very differently to their multiple family members and having toddlers determined to feed them with cookies. That latter part is what makes a very low-carber woe Super Hardcore. I can’t even imagine. If they pull it off without making the toddler upset? They are god level or something…

I really feel I have it easy. Not nearly as easy as living alone surrounded with carni food with the nearest supermarket many miles away but I know it could be so, so much harder.

All of you are doing amazing and I learn so much from you all so I want to say thank you.

Thank you too! You are a lovely one. Why are carnivores on this forum so charming I wonder… It definitely made my life much better. I came here and despite being a HUGE veggie lover on vegetarian keto, I just couldn’t resist. My mind said it’s no way I change my ways this drastically but something started. Even after months in (on/off but I still had many carni days), it was surreal and I felt something just pull me in, it’s not like I decided to do something impossible like this… Maybe a few days trial, I do such things sometimes out of curiosity…
And I was lucky as carnivore never caused any problem, only gave benefits. If I remember correctly. Yeah, a bit worrying about meat, that was a hardship first but when I had meat? It was great and easy. For a while but I usually (always) run out meat before I had problems and fell off the wagon.
So I WON’T do that now and we will see.

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Due to the lots of meat yesterday, I am nicely satiated today. Even after my weightlifting session (well the big muscles part), I didn’t need food yet. That’s good, my later first meals typically end up being decent sized ones! Bigger meals always worked better for me. Small ones just trigger hunger too soon.

AND THE…PREDATOR OF THE MONTH award goes to: VIC!

Yep, I mentioned it to Alvaro too… That after talking about eating the bunny all month… Someone finally did it! (We will ask the egg lady about the bunnies. It’s almost May, they are supposed to be there, eating and growing every day, I think…)

how do you know which animals in the world are safe to consume or not?

Good question… Some animals aren’t even tasty. Some may have diseases (and not all problems is solved with cooking… horrible).
Society restrictions? I don’t care about those. I wouldn’t eat my own pet - unless it’s some wildly serious apocalypse situation, maybe but I probably couldn’t kill them even then… But if they already dead… But that’s apocalypse level where I would eat humans too for survival.
Pet animal but not my pet (guinea pig, maybe horse, that’s often not pet but still rarely kept for eating… I ate horse, it’s a thing in this country, not very common but it’s easy to buy horse/pig sausage in a supermarket)? Sure, why not? Pigs are intelligent and often pets too but I eat pork as it’s great.
I don’t really want to try monkey meat. Alvaro’s father did it, he had some Asian friend and tried some unusual meats.
I would like to try snake. And snake is a pet for many, it would be nice to have one but nope, it’s simpler and easier to keep rats, easier to feed… And I still don’t have even rats, just cats.
I totally would eat some clean, healthy rats. Roasted, with a sour cherry in its mouth, at least that was my idea back then (just with cherry. but that’s too sugary. you know, roasted pig with lemon/apple in its mouth, I changed it).

And I can’t comprehend the “how can you eat that animal, it’s CUTE” thing. What does it have to do with the taste and nutrients? Should I eat disgusting, ugly or majestic animals only? Cute is good. I respect intelligence more, too bad pork and octopus are so tasty while fish and chicken less so, to my tastebuds. I am selfish first.

Don’t tell my little dog this but he is fair game in the long run thru zombie apcolypse times HAHA

Dogs and cats eat their dead owners too if they must as there is no other food source nearby so it’s fine.

[Fangs]

Oh,. You think it was due to the accident? It indeed happened then… But HOW? My body can’t be able to make energy from nothing, I know that and I barely ate right after the accident… Well I did it later but not SO much… I don’t exactly know though… Maybe it was enough? Possibly. I don’t think my metabolism slowed down, there were no signs but as long as it wasn’t permanent…
It’s impossible to figure out what happened. But thanks! I like this idea that my body still work fine, it was a temporal problem due to the really insanely stressful time. It wasn’t even just my usual times with the accident on top, no, the problems piled up more. It was awful, I still get mental chills when I think of those times. The vast majority of the new problems quickly disappeared and indeed, I stopped gaining but as I ate better, it was no wonder. December is special. It’s good I am not really a comfort eater… But anyway, the best food to comfort me is my fav, pork… I don’t have that very special relationship with chocolate or something. I just liked the taste in the past. They never made me any happier. They gave me joy but almost any food I ever ate did that.

This very abnormal behavior of my body seriously upset me. The gain was bad enough but the fact that it happened so quickly without even eating super crazy in December (that I did all my life without a measurable gain. I have my limits, I can’t eat a ton every day for weeks but I still had quite seriously overeating, way too carby Decembers)… It was scary. I was worried my body broke somehow. And I even had very low-carb days galore and they didn’t help.

Yay. Hopefully I am not broken yet.

It has both advantages and disadvantages, actually. With my personality, it’s not so great there are so many items that may tempt me… With only my own food, it would be ridiculously easy I imagine. But it would be sad to give up all the recipes I made in the last decade, I like to bake more interesting things than my 100% egg sponge cakes now and then as well…
And what would I make with the TONS of fruit in my garden if I was alone? I LOVE having dozens of different fruits. My blooming trees are beautiful and it’s exciting to watch them during the months. I baked a fruity cake today, Alvaro got happier, I got happier and I have one less jar on the top of a

*************S what is going down with you? I am a bit not knowing what chat we got going on here in this thread LOL seems very off kilter to me but not sure what you want to get across here and what prompted it??

just wondering on it!

[daigo1]

is there any benefit to consuming raw meat? what is the purpose of cooking meat, just to kill bacteria and/or flavor?

[Fangs]

NAH thru long term veterans on zc it is a preference. RAW IF OLD times when you ‘ate a kill, blood and internal organs’ and more in that same feeding would be a whole new ‘what if to nutriton’ then eating just some raw burger from now times, or eating some raw liver from you want it.

raw is extremely personal to each. you want it you go for it! not a darn thing wrong with just that.

I was super well tough shoe leather meat back in the day to damn near raw but "seared super cripsy vicious’ in my pan to MAKE IT HOW I love it now. blue rare

SO again do you and not one issue means anything different long term ever!

[Carnivoor]

…but how do you know which animals in the world are safe to consume or not? are most animals unacceptable to eat by social restriction? (like we wouldn’t eat animals that are e.g. domesticated pets)

Unlike plants, most animals are safe to eat. Some toxic fish have to be butchered correctly or they cam become very dangerous.
I stay away from those, plenty of other fish just as nice.

I respect other cultures and religions.

I wil not eat pork in the middle east, beef in India, cats and dogs in europe, horses in the US.

Also endangered spieces and illegally hunted meat I refuse to eat.