@Fangs Thanks Fangsy for your kind encouraging words.
Iām trying to slowly eliminate non Carni products. I am really glad Iāve decided to grab the Carni bull by the horns. I do prefer Carni, with plant matter all the carbs quickly add up. I want to be below 20grams. Last night I got hungry in bedā¦
I had a peice if salami and cheese, I canāt wait until Iām fat adapted again. Last year it was good, I was rarely hungry. My bods getting used to it still. I am about to go grocery shopping and then I have to go and pack up and clean a unit around the corner. Fangs, so you love the heat?? I love the cold so bring on Summer for you and Winter for me. Last Summer it got to 46C here. 
Iām looking forward to what you name the next thread. 
Next month I can say " May the Carni force be with you".
Got another idea for next monthā¦Meat MAYham. Thatās probably stupid though. Oh well.
BewareEasterBunny -- DangerousCarnivoreApril
Oh my gosh that looks so goodā¦
Todays food for me was flanken style ribs ,
pork rinds and ill prob finish off with a small piece of meatza.
I was wondering how Iād do adding in cheese cos I donāt eat it that often ā¦I woke up a lb down so ill take it ā¦
Yummy, oh my god itās making my mouth water. Iām looking forward to my chicken drumsticks and eggs tonight.
Hi people ~
I will read back eventually, just skimming over it, I am curious what were you talking about.
But I really donāt want to spend too much time on the forum, I am working on this part of my food addiction and I got improved. I wasted my time differently. But of course, being here for a healthy amount of time is nice. If I donāt get carried away.
I had circumstances and experimented, oh my, carnivore is better so now that finally I could go shopping, I can come back. As I run out of meat some time ago and nope, it doesnāt work that āI have a little this and that and eggs galoreā and āI will go to the butcher to buy a little something if I feel the needāā¦ No, I should have a proper amount of proper meat or else something in me start to feel not up to the task and I canāt do carnivore. Itās pretty much mental, of course a bigger amount of meat helps physically too but I get a bit scared if I donāt have MUCH proper food. I always had this with food. I donāt think I have food anxiety or whatā¦ I just like to have enough with big variety and when my supplies start to run out (still enough for 1-2 days and I can go shopping any timeā¦), I start to use them sparingly and itās easy to lose my balance. And I can fall very quickly.
So I try (I will fail but I should improve eventually) not to underestimate the amount of meat I need to be safe. I have 7-8kg now, thatās good. But still should buy more. I have a very deeply ingrained meat sparing thing and yes, itās pretty inconvenient to buy much meat (unless I dare to put multiple packages into my cart at the hypermarketā¦ well I actually put in 3 last timeā¦) but I wonāt eat too much anyway, I adore eggs. And if I eat too little meat, that causes problems and overeating. And I have organ days and thatās meat sparing enough while itās fun and cheap and widely available.
I need to balance things, itās life but I still feel I hold myself back a little. At least sometimes. I definitely came a long way. So if I shop properly, I shouldnāt have much problem. I need lots of non-meat anyway but I have my limits.
So I have 3150g pork in the oven now. And a similar amount in the freezer and some turkey and a whole chicken and some bony chicken parts for a soup.
There were no pork chuck on sale. So I boughtā¦ I still dunno what you call it, itās the thighā¦ And some shoulders as usual. Looking at them, they look the same (I need to roast and eat to see if they are really similar). But databases say the fat content is totally different. I donāt trust general data as I often can see itās not right. So I donāt even try to track, itās the first time since years that I just stopped and feel no urge to restart. Whenever I stopped before, after doping it for years on/off, I just noticed soon that I am doing it again. I am more free now.
I calculated a bitā¦ Wow, even $6 is way too expensive for me, even our special christmas meat should be cheaper. I only buy beef when itās below $3 (leg on sale but itās barely more off sale and wonderful for stew!) but rarely as itās way more expensive than my favorite pork.
I have about $3 for food a day, itās a pretty nice amount, I can eat a lot of good food with it. Itās my normal amount, surely sometimes itās more but I donāt really feel anything lacking as long as I donāt want some luxurious items, I canāt afford them or just rarely. I never spent much more (except when I ate out a lot on holiday or something) as there was no need. And my carnivore is cheaper than vegetarian keto and the latter was cheaper than low-carb. But now that I have meat, I have a few ideas how to spend a tad more on food in a way where I can say it was worth it. But just a bit, really. No way anything can take the number one, that was reserved for good pork all my life. Nowadays I really like my occasional beef but I canāt imagine eating it in big amounts.
And there is chicken that barely costs anything ($1/kg on sale) but I donāt like it, its taste is often off and if not, just meh (quality chicken is good, still not my fav but quite tasty. but that costs 8 times as much or something). Good for soup but not for roasts. I prefer turkey 
I ate turkey aboutā¦ Once in my first 43-44 years? But I discovered it now.
I try to leave my very wrong and not hedonistic enough times, itās general, I donāt live as I should.
It would be great to improve in multiple areas, such things help each other.
So I am pretty determined to do things right (well, better) for a while again, hoping I wonāt mess it up too much until I get used to it.
My late eating is still present but usually normal, I tend to be truly hungry.
I still drink a lot of coffee but not every day, nothing is wrong with water especially if itās carbonatedā¦
I do my best not to try hard, thatās not good for me but I donāt want to āexperimentā, itās usually disappointing. And now I have meat, it would be a waste not to be strict enough. I ate more cheese now that I had less meat (we bought a pig heart again but thatās little and Alvaro managed to fry it a bit wrong, it was hard and chewy but still good tasting no problem but this is not something we could eat in bigger amounts. but it was only one pig heart for two, after all), it will be nice to stop that. I really am not into cheese, I will use it when I really feel the need, be it for making the dish better or adding variety.
But I still made an awesome cheesecake with raspberry jelly top yesterday, I canāt regret that. Alvaro ate the biggest part but it was good, I am impressed I was so modest. But I am in love with mascarpone and cream, I donāt actuallty need the carbier items (I use some flavor but the carb content is negligible). I will make pancakes again ~. When I buy mascarpone as I totally forgot but we need to visit the city soon, again. As we did it today. Pretty quickly. We bought more weights for my dumbbells, new shoes and a single hypermarket for meat and other stuff (one of my fav cheeses was on sale! Alvaro loves it too so we bought a lot and I will just taste it, probably).
Good weather arrived and I must start to mow the lawn outside. Itās a special place just out of my property, grass grows way quicker but the other plants are totally out of this world. I spend much time there that on my whole property and I have grass almost everywhere. The plants must love the sun and the lack of steep slope there. And there are hundreds of hopeful tiny sour cherry trees and even more lilacsā¦ The latter is worse as it shares the place with flowers and they are harder so I need to cut them out one by one. I never will finish thatā¦
I am not a huge fan of garden work (it depends which, though) but I do love having a garden. Itās basic. No way I donāt have one. Mine is small and has mostly grass and trees and bushes but still gives so much work. But working is way more cheerful in the sunshine and we have that now.
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Another day. I didnāt want to send it before a proper carni day but oh well. I am very very sure this one will be that, I am no masochist and I really desire it now. And I have pork roast tooā¦ I will have chicken soup and eggs but they arenāt the main thing, they are just nice additions.
Alvaro requested seitan for todayās lunch and I forgot to tell him (but he knew about itā¦ maybe he was absent-minded too) that we have roasted pork. We will see what he will choose. He very rarely has problems with a little bit of meat on top of his carbs. He has enough sometimes but we didnāt eat so much meat lately. Yesterday his Mom gave us chicken (only I ate the meat from the soup too as he doesnāt touch the frame of the chicken and other bony things), before we had pig heart, before that he ate a lot of sausage, maybe a tiny break and before that we had pork and hen and he liked that.
Oh we will see how he will evolve. Itās definitely more convenient to me if I donāt need to make something different (even if simple) for him when we have perfectly fine meat.
And his eating habits definitely has some effect on me as I am the main chef and I even can be tempted with certain things when I donāt have enough roasted pork (but that probably wouldnāt work all the time, I probably need breaks from it too). So I have a bit(?) harder time than what I would have if I lived alone. But it helps too, I can have fun with food I wouldnāt do otherwise and I practice being around various food without doing silly things.
I never will fully used to this And I am sure I personally always will consider dessert type things as dessert. Like sour cream. Or coffee with cream.
To me, the steak is the main food and the shrimps are snacks. Or some light course.
I donāt know breamā¦ Sigh. So many fishes and I can only find a handful of species here. Most of them would be too lean for me (though I could pair them up with something else) but still. I like trying out things. maybe we should buy some more exotic fish for next Christmasā¦ Hard to persuade myself as I could just buy salmon with the guarantee of tastinessā¦ But I think that will be it, salmon and an exotic fish. If I wonāt like it, Alvaro surely will. Once he ate swordfish, super lean and I found it bitter and not tasty. He loved it. It was his order, I was happy with my octopus in vinegar (poor thing, smart too. why I find smarter animals tastier? with some exceptions).
I send this now and try to stay scarce. But I will come now and then for sure. Try to make photos too but my food is very very usual. Nothing can beat fatty pork roasts as my usual food. I just need something more special here and there. I start to miss mutton. I barely ate it a few times in my life (and I only remember one) but it was very good. But cheaper meat is very good too so I wait until I really want it.
If I didnāt mentioned yet (I donāt remember), my name day and Alvaroās birthday is coming. I will relax my ways a tiny bit, I think about 100ml beer, we bought more special ones than usual. I definitely donāt want cake (as I donāt have mascarpone. only that would have a chance) but I make one for Alvaro.
I always planned to make some carni cake (or almost) but when I do carni, I donāt want it and Alvaro prefers my normal low-carb ones). Oh well. It would be fun though, with very interesting macrosā¦ I am pretty sure I could put a few dozens of yolks into a small cake. It would be satiating.
I shared your ideas and habits on this till about 2 years ago. Then I dicided to explore carnivore world in all sorts of new combinations and mixtures.
So a reset of conventional cultural habits was needed.
My favoured is cooked out heavy cream on top of raw beef liver.
A combination I didnāt expect to be good, turns out I love it. Unique and wonderfull taste.
Yesterday I just wanted more fish and schrimps, so the smaller steak became desert.
I also want pigs feet for breakfast, but I cant find it here locally, Iām still in Mozambique, choices are limited.
Canāt eat raw here either, food is not very safe here.
Not complaining thou, I ashamed of my food budget compared to you and Alvaro. And admire you at the same time for managing making nice food on a very low budget.
I love fatty pork, its one of my favourites.
yes WE carnivores must have daily good meat supply along with animal kingdom options like cheese in order to make this a āproperā lifestyle change. If you canāt rely on your meat/fowl meat sources this lifestyle is almost impossible to maintain. I feel for you on how tough it is for you!!!
So happy you hit your pork and turkey and chicken etc. It makes all the diff. in the world to have meat sources available to you at all times and I get the āoh gosh my supply is lowā and we worry Not like we are grabbing a bow and arrow and going out hunting for moreā¦we rely on the darn stores and good sale prices to help us now! But you did good on your shopping.
I love love love thisā¦the āone who loves to track, you Tracking Queenā is saying screw this with carnivoreā¦yes can you know how to eat and no one really needs to track if we put the carbs to an extreme low!! I get why people love to track and I did a bit back in the day but the NO track is pricelessā¦more time to do other stuff
Cool! Yea our areas and our income base guidelines and economics and more throw us into way different pricing and what it takes for each of us on the financial front! Seems weird I spend XYZ and you spend ABC and it is so different but us carnivores always make it work LOL
and post all the fatty pork roast pics you want, even if it is your daily food cause WE ALL love thatā¦we carnivores each limited but special to what we love and adore and serves us bestā¦hey you see me posting pork, steak, shrimp pics almost ALL the time. LOLā¦it is what I eat daily so your pork pics would be welcome for sure!
Yes I got into pairings and this was very important for me to move forward. Many can do one meat, I am a massive fan of ā2 itemsā on a meal. It gives me, heck I donāt know, but it gave me something very tight I needed to make this all work. Steak/eggs. All kinds of surf and turf. Pork and alfredo sauceā¦yes dippinā my pork in alfredo sauce is the bomb!
It is a reset. A reset to suit us personally and screw ALL the ānormsā that are told is great for us and go rogue and thrive!
LOVE IT! MAYhamā¦darn smart if ya ask me and this is our new carnivore title! I hope everyone cheers this one on cause it is wonderfulā¦clever!
off for errands and a bit of a shop with my daughter today
hubby mowing his momās acreage so he is busy
Sun but Brrr but should be nicer day
home to eat a massive big thick Tbone steak.
pair with tuna/mayo
not sure on another meal if I do eat cause this steak is BIGā¦easily a 1.8 lbāer type. YUM
Just take the day as it comes, being carnivore I can do that easilyā¦me in zero carb zen more days then I used to be LOL
ROCK ON ZC GUYS!!! We truly get the best results if we hold on and let that time wash over us on planā¦we change, not a doubt about that! All great changes!!
love it 
I also admire you Iāve lurked along time and you keep trying I love that about youā¦You might not be always on plan but your consistent with always trying to move forward and do more towards carnivore even on a limited budgetā¦ Where some might throw their hands in the air and say to hell with this but no you keep trying and that makes you remarkable.
As for your food addiction of being on the site Iām probably right there with you but I look at it thats its not an issue if Iām getting something from it and itās not having a negative affect on meā¦
I love the support I get from here and there isnāt anyone else other than my husband who eats like me around me or understands the benefits carnivore can provideā¦ Im lucky I do have dr cywes to add to my knowledge but most info I get Iāve got from this forum and the people sharing their experiences.
Itās not a very low budget, tons of people have way less, surely. Mine is a fine budget, I always spent about this this much on my food, no matter how much money I had (and I had way, way more and food is the part of my life where I donāt accept going too cheap. health and joy from food is vital). I spent my money on motorbike riding back then, food definitely didnāt need more (except sometimes in restaurants but that was rare, I disliked eating out much). Most proper food is cheap enough for me, lucky
But now that I would be ready to eat fancier and more expensive meatā¦ Not necessary at all but would be niceā¦ Yep, I should do something about it in the future. But that was always the plan. Alvaro would love more cheese too and more expensive ones as well.
But I still eat well. And I overate while being somewhat fat in the past, eating less would have been cheaper and better 
Stupid carbs. They are for Alvaro whose body considers them okay food.
And I still think the dessert thing has nothing to do with how much one is on a woe. Itās very fixed in my case, meat never is a dessert, it canāt change (or I would be quite surprised). Lots of things can change, yes, I learned already that itās a journey with big surprises but not this.
But maybe itās partially cultural? Like when in the past (maybe now too, I donāt know) the last course of a feast was a cheese plate and fruits. Even at that point, cheese is snack to me, not dessert. But I usually use it with my main dish or not at all. Or if itās a little extra, it accompanies meat and eggs, not fruit. I never ate cheese with fruit, I donāt know why that is a thing but probably many peopleās taste buds like the combination. Cheese and wine is a thing too but not for me.
10-something months ago it was odd that some people uses meat as a side dish with their meatā¦ Itās extremely normal for me now, of course I eat leaner meats with fattier meats, what else? Even though I usually use eggs as a side dish. Or a main one for tiny meals.
Like today! My lunch was very small and very eggy. I had soup with 2 poached eggs, a scrambled egg and a coffee with milk and an egg.
I definitely dislike milk in my coffee, I used the egg to make it better but nope, itās hopeless. Hopefully I will learn this time (I knew it canāt be good but better than nothingā¦?). I need a brand I can drink black as I wonāt fully quit coffeeā¦ Or should I run out of it? That makes me stop quite effectivelyā¦ But we need coffee for other reasonsā¦
I plan to have a big dinner (pork already, it still needs a little roasting) that keeps me satiated until tomorrow mid-afternoon at least.
Alvaro ate seitan but said that he would have been okay with the pork too. Okay. I will remember this.
Make it impossible if itās me. And I actually CAN rely on itā¦ I am ready to buy more if I need it but when I recognize it, itās already late. The only solution is keep my freezer packed I think. So I will do that. And I try not to underestimate the amount I need to feel okay (mentally, I mean and in advance. when much roasted pork is in front of me, I surely eat whatever amount I need, I am good at that. I planned wrong in the past. or not but plans had to change). Maybe I learn this time. Theoretically, I have a little meat, other carni food, the butcher nearby if I really need something else, what could possibly go wrong? A lot. I need my big pork slabs (and other meats) nearby all the time. That feels good and is quite effective. So I go for that now.
You are very nice and welcoming, thank you And your enthusiasm never gets old
I could talk about hospital food in Hungary again (Iāve read a few interesting stories) but itās very much not carnivore or even nice. It seems there are some hospitals where they truly havenāt the vaguest idea how to feed a human especially with sensitivities or diabetes. i know they do it right in many places but far from everywhere. Itās sad.
We get there is almost no money for foodā¦ Well, we donāt as eating is extremely important in healthā¦ And they really spend way too little on it in many cases. But Australia can do it worse (from my viewpoint) using a ton of moneyā¦ The average one in hospital who doesnāt have any appetite and only stays a little are fine enough but women with a newborn need something better. They usually get it, of course, unrelated to the hospitalā¦ Everyone knows to bring their own food or ask the relatives to bring some when they get hospitalized. In some cases itās no option or the relatives bring the wrong one, though.
Sorry, I couldnāt resist, I find this so horrible that the food is messed up in hospitals. Itās tragic.
Thatās a very low budget. Hospital food in Hungary. It must cost a fragment of my budget and they can do it cheaper than a single tiny household. And if someone canāt eat something, they may get the other items only. I imagine lactose and gluten sensitivity easily may result in not getting anything at the worst places. Someone wrote that they had the type of surgery and sensitivity that the hospital didnāt give them any food at all, they had to organize it themselves. Another wrote that they very quickly learned to walk after some pelvis surgery in order to be able to go and buy foodā¦
These are extreme but not very rare cases. Lunches tend to be okay in most hospitals. If you can eat anything and donāt expect much protein (cheaper protein is a thing and a human doesnāt need much but somehow itās still used very sparingly. and itās bad as the other 2 meals contains close to none).
I try not to think about this topic ever again. I just get upset. Poor patients. Like, some 17 year old boy with a wrist surgery. I canāt imagine they are fine with that tiny amount of food and I had wrist surgery, itās not a trauma to plummet my appetite and hunger (but I was fine, that hospital must be some better one and I could get food easily anyway). When Alvaro had various serious trauma, splenectomy and 17(?) broken ribs and vertebrae, he ate very little (all the hospital food and whatever he could get extra from othersā¦) and handled the no food in the first few days well, he had worse problems to worry about. But he came home soon (still ate little for a while but felt cold while doing so). Not everyone is that lucky.
And we are humans, animals typically have it worse. But I stop before I get as depressed as I can get (I am sure I have immunity. I just feel down.)
Limited but a pretty nice budget If I donāt want ruminants and seafood, at least, those are tricky. And I still could eat them if that would be very important. Itās not like we have no money to spend more on food, we just can use it for something more important as our eating is good enough.
And I do nothing I am not forced toā¦ I donāt enjoy eating much more carbs at all (a bit? sometimes). Carnivore feels the best, it stops my eating problems, I must try to do it even if I fail regularly. I am a super stubborn one, my body too so yep, I always come back and try to do it better and for longer! It still feels pathetic that I canāt find my balance. But I keep my freezer full and if that canāt help, maybe nothing will (except getting more practice).
So itās just not being a masochist and being my stubborn self to me, nothing very admirable but who knowsā¦ Some people truly do it worse. Some people clearly hurt themselves right away! Not enjoying life now and getting sick later, not even enjoying it. Itās a very odd and sobering thing when I do that to any extent so I tend to quickly stop those. Why would I eat wrong if itās not even joyous?
Of course peopleās mental state complicate things but we should fight to get better.
Being here is fine, sure, there are many benefits. I come here for support too. I am the key but every tiny thing helps and when I read about happy carnivores and their nice food, thatās not even so tiny, itās tempting.
But if I think about food and bake and cook and eat and do the dishes for too many hours a day, thatās bad. I should be into food in moderation. So much to do and I am so good at procrastination, my food addiction can make things worse.
I go away for a while now. Sigh.
Well I got thrown for a loop!
Hubby gave me BIG puppy dog eyes to EAT my big Tbone steak tonight when he gets home from work. Ohhhh man, sometimes LOL But I said yes and while out I did a fly by the grocery for this bunch of country style pork ribs (just a āboston butt pork style roastā that they cut into ārib styleā and YES I GOT them in the oven right now. All of them. Will eat 3 probably and leave another for leftover.
I eat SO much steak and I decided I would let hubby have the big one cause in honesty, I hide my āgood meatā from him all the time HAHA and this time I threw him a boneā¦my T BONE!
I told him he should bow to me after I said yes, he wouldnāt do it!!! too funny!
I am just going crazy on pork lately. Like must haveā¦before it was ribeyes I could not resits, into NY strips and into beef tenderloin and I dropped pork mostly and I flipped again, I AM NOW a Pork Queen here peopleā¦āhmm, maybe me and S are vying for Pork Queen title! well whatever cause I just go with the flow
edited to say darn I got to smaller out my pics!!
OMYGOSH you guys,ā¦I am SO BAD. This is going to sound awful. Or, itāll sound awfully goodā¦depending on how you understand Keto and carnivore, and all.
So, I cooked some chicken thighs last night. I cook using cast iron, add some butter, salt the thighs and away we go.
I cut up the thighs to nibble on, and for family members to put across their salads for lunches. Then I went to bed. This morning, I got up - not hungry at all. A few minutes ago, I got a hankering for something - and the only thing that sounded good was the crispy bits mingled with fat that were leftover in the cast iron pan from last night. Just scraped out and ate it all. That was one of the tastiest things Iāve had in all my life.
Pretty sure that is NOT what my Mom meant when sheād tell me to clean my plate. But, it was delicious, nonetheless!
Haha Iāve had fat cravings I will buy a pork roast with skin on just to eat the crackling and my husband gets the roastā¦so I totally understand
ahhh DUH GOOD! you aināt off on this, it is frickinā delish but I never did let it sit overnight HAHA but you will be ok I am sure
I scrape every fry pan, baking dish of chicken, keep fats from it all and use on other stuff and will jump on āany cracklinā or fat bitā known to mankind cause it is the DARN best tasting little bit we can get our hands on! Growing up I took all the skin off a roaster chicken my mom would cook and got yelled at and then before she āwashedā the pan I dove into all THE good on the bottom and she āwondered aboutā me but I knew I was a meat hound from birth
You did great SB!
yes I get this also.
my hubby buys a smoked boston butt or brisket from the local smokehouse joint and I GRAB all the juicy good and the āleftoverā without the bigger fat content has no draw to me at all. Fat best, dry meat after not as good LOLā¦feed it to the peasants!
Some places like CHOMPS is great.
Then there is Nickās Sticks.
then Mission Meats and PaleoValley and alot more if you just 'google carnivore beef sticks.
now on taste, hmm to equal a Slim Jim, not sure but I gotta say I have eaten and STILL eat slim jims as I need to this day. I can easily travel with about 8-10 slim jims in my purse at all times and if the ālittle doggie Boltā goes on any trips I make sure I got slim jims for me and him LOL
hope some of that helps
You came to close, you knew there where dangerous carnivores around.
RIP easter bunny, and thanks for dinner.