August-Palooza!


#201

Wow, when you wrote no ulcer and whatnot, I thought, well I never could get such things myself, my body knows its job… But no headache? Cool. It’s the outlet of my body. If I have some problem, it’s headache. I am very familiar with my headaches, I often can tell the reason as I feel it. Not even headache… Sounds good. I hate medicine even more than supplements so I obviously don’t want to take pills but I hate pain too.

I can’t say anything without being whiny and pathetic… I have problems. I definitely want lots of proper meat now. sigh
Well, my days are still fine, nice very low carb therefore not very much fat, protein does its usual, I am satiated all day, just a tad stressed and sometimes bored with my food despite the variety. Summer is so not my season, it affects me negatively.


(Kellyn ) #202

After adding cheese back last week, I have seen no ill effects from it. My eczema is now completely gone. Today I decided to have an iced coffee with HWC. I will see if this effects my sleep any or my weight loss. A positive I noticed today is that even though I drink a lot of water, I use the restroom less often than I used to. Have any of you experience this? Also my sleep keeps getting better. I slept eight hours last night. 4 hours deep sleep and 4 hours light sleep. The sleep has been the biggest benefit so far, as my sleep the last 13 years has been so bad. I am loving this way of eating. I do have to be creative when I go out or go to a friends house, but I prepare and sometimes just eat at home in advance. I lost 1 pound this week. I take my measurements tomorrow.


#203

So glad you’re rockin’ this! Yes, sleep improves SO MUCH when on carnivore. That was one of the first things I noticed.
As for the bathroom issue…well. Before being carnivore, I always felt like I had to go all the time. Ever since I had a C-section and had a cath (which was over 15 years ago), feeling like I had to pee was constant. After fasting then going strict carnivore last summer, that UTI feeling just suddenly went away. When we went on vacation for that wedding back in June, and I went off the deep end with bad eats, the feeling came back. Now that I’m back to carnivore, the feeling is going away. So, yeah, I’d say there is definitely something going on related to that issue. Has to be toxins, irritants, somethings that are floating around inside that go away when you eat carnivore. It is cool, isn’t it?!

As for life here in the north, we have 200 miles of thunderstorms coming across Lake Superior -heading right for us. One of my kids was supposed to take a boat out to the island for a camping vacation, but I think there must certainly be coast guard warnings against that today. Lake Superior is NOT the ideal place to “test the waters”. We shall see.

So…I have a few short of hours of peace and quiet before the 8.5 hour shift. I ran the gauntlett yesterday with the pharmacy, curbside orders, photo orders, and being shorthanded. Today, one of my co-workers is handling pharmacy for the entire day shift, so I can work on a 500 pc truck for the majority of my shift. YAY!

I don’t know how much anyone follows news here, but retailers are getting slammed by some customers complaining about the shortages in TP and everything else. I get yelled at a couple times a week (on average) because we don’t have EVERY.SINGLE.BRAND.or SIZE package of toilet paper, cleaning supplies, and coffee on our shelves. They get mad, and yell at us about how we let “hoarders” take everything so no one else can buy what they need." So…couple news flashes. Ours was one of the first retailers locally to place strict limits on certain items. Second, it ain’t the day to day customers that are hoarding… it is the state governments doing it. The Seattle Times had an article, and there was also an expose’ done on one of their local TV stations about how the state was stockpiling PALLETS full of food and supplies. Applesauce, peanut butter, etc…“shelf-stable” items. So, imagine anywhere from 5,000 to 12,000 pallets of food, stacked to the ceiling in a warehouse. Ya think that might cause some supply-chain issues!!! Multiply by 50 or so…and do the math. DUH.
If you look at your particular state, and search a bit, you can probably find where abouts your state rates in terms of “readiness” based on CDC or FDA ratings. Michigan, lo and behold, scored 99% in terms of readiness to handle shortages, emergencies, etc. To me, that says the state has stockpiled TONS of food and supplies, and have thus helped to create our supply chain issues. (If you are interested in learning about this sort of thing, or are curious about how weather, etc affects our food production - check out the Ice Age Farmer. He has some great videos on his website.)

I’m ranting a bit here, but when I come into work, and see customer comments posted that reflect this sort of complaint, it pisses me off. The customer is blaming us- the workers - for not keeping the shelves stocked. It’s a little irritating. I can’t help if it our state governments pull rank with the manufacturers and get the product before we do. Nor can I help it if manufacturers run out of raw materials. But, when you try to explain we don’t have the product, and its not a hoarder issue - that, for instance, the material used to make their precious Clorox wipes is the same material used in PPE production and there is shortage of that material due to the increase in PPE production- a few of them come around, but there’s more who don’t give a crap about an actual explanation. If any of you have friends or family who are like that…please share with them that individual stores and sales people do not have control over state government circumvention of products, and shortages of raw materials.

Off the soapbox now. I’m going to throw together some various meats for lunchies today, stay the course, and finish my Aeropress coffee. There’s a few items on my to-do list that need to be tackled before I go to work. Going to stretch, do some push ups, and get moving. Have a lovely carnivorous day!


(Kellyn ) #204

I have an eczema flare. I am not sure if it is the HWC, coffee, or cheese. I am going to cut the coffee and HWC to see if that helps while I finish the cheese I bought. If it does not go away then I will cut all dairy again. I added cheese back to my diet last Wednesday. Yesterday added HWC and coffee. Could the inflammation from cheese have taken awhile to build up or could this be evidence that it is the HWC or coffee?


#205

I had that happen when I re-introduced more dairy. Not eczema per se, but some really itchy skin and a little acne. My kids all react badly to dairy, and it manifests itself in some very bad episodes. My third oldest did the experiment first. He had horrible acne, and decided to try eliminating dairy after he read about that being a possible cause. Sure enough, in a few weeks- he had perfectly clear skin. So, then my girls tried it - and same thing. Zero acne. Now, if any of them have ice cream or cheese, they break out.


(Kellyn ) #206

how long did it take for your skin to get itchy after re-introducing dairy? Last week when I reintroduced dairy it was aged Swiss. This week I have had mozzarella, brie, blue cheese, provolone, and HWC. Wondering if I could handle aged cheese every once in awhile. I guess I am wondering just how many days to wait to see if my body has a reaction to something I have eaten.


(Doug) #207

In the end I’ve had to admit that sleep is SO important.

Hell hath no fury like somebody slightly inconvenienced…?

So, maybe 6 lbs. gained since late March. Yesterday, 2 cups of coffee, 1 with cream, 1 black, fish in the evening (haddock). Felt great and still do today, with 2 cups in me once again, both just black this time. That peaceful feeling, that lightness of being. Why do I eventually steer the locomotive off the tracks? It’s good to be riding the rails, for now, though.


(Edith) #208

It could be a quantity thing. Go off dairy, clear things up. If you have maybe a small amount, just one day, you’re fine, but multiple days overloads your system.

If I have dairy, I react either that night or the next day. I get very itchy and my joints hurt.


(Kellyn ) #209

I did some research and I found that some people get eczema from the casein in milk. Aged and soft cheeses involve curdling and souring of milk with introduction of enzymes. So some react to milk or cream as opposed to cheese.
https://www.passion4health.com.au/why-can-i-have-cheese-yoghurt-butter-but-not-milk/

In conclusion, I think that it may have been the heavy whipping cream that caused the breakout. I am going to see if this is the case and just cut the cream for now to see if my eczema clears up. I don’t need coffee or HWC so it will be easy to cut it back out. I have some cheeses that I just bought that I will finish up this week and see if my eczema gets worse or better.
I actually love experimenting and seeing what is good for my body. After all this experimenting with dairy, I’m going to test eggs.


#210

Seems like I had to eat the dairy stuff consistently for a few days, and then after that…started feeling it.
With my kids, the acne pops up pretty quick…like 48-72 hours.


#211

Really great chat on the board. Any newer people to zc do have to handle that ‘dairy experiment’ on themselves. Dairy is an absolute personal thing and one just has to do elimination, add back in, see results, deal with taking it out again if needed to see if any troubles are improved again and so on. Takes a bit of time but that is all any of us can do on dairy when one is just on that fence if it is the culprit, and I hate to say this to those having troubles on it, it usually is the culprit :frowning:

Original zero/carb plan is truly to eliminate dairy and eat just real fresh meat and fresh seafood. But of course more wanted that ‘relaxed zc/carnivore’ plan and added dairy in since, well darn we love it, and it is an animal product, but it is the biggest monkey on our backs for zc.

I noticed now I am walking away from more dairy all the time. I just don’t require it cause I found it was a crutch I needed for many years. Probably just a mental crutch but lately I am not making my homemade alfredo sauce for dipping my shrimp, I am just using butter. I still use a tad of cheese on my burgers cause I still like them that way but I am eating less cheeseburgers in a way as a main meal, my main is big old steak, a cheeseburger patty is now a side dish if my steak ain’t big enough LOL

yesterday for me was
12 oz beef steak
1 tin of sardines
1 chicken breast
8 slices taylor ham

Feeling great. Just doing zc. Just chilling thru it all and cruising along.

One thing is one can’t go back ever when you commit years to zc…in that last night family was eating dessert junk, more bored they were roaming the kitchen and hubby and kid made brownies and all that goofing off…I got jealous in my mental BS of saying ‘why can’t I eat all that crap?’ LOL but I pushed it all off real fast. I hate when I get drawn into that in a way…but anyway, I chatted with myself. It boils down to yea I can eat that, no one policing me but myself and I know from the oldie days years ago when I ate off plan I paid dearly. I got drawn into days of a carb binge and felt like total crap and it took weeks to detox again. But the feeling :frowning: My body knows carbs and knows they are like poison truly to me. When one goes from feeling absolutely wonderful to feeling like a bloated slug again real fast on junk then I had to accept where my best life was, and it is on zc. I have no doubt about that whatsoever.

But what I love most about zc, while I am an animal kingdom only eater and many would find this so super restrictive and horrible and couldn’t ‘do this for a lifestyle’ I find this is exactly where I need to be with tons of meat/seafood options truly to keep me happy, being the meat hound I am :), I also get reminded daily…from this forum. All the posts of ‘how to track’, what if I?, do I need to cut kcals, and all the HELP posts that are ‘all about dieting’ and how to use every trick/tip/IF situation/and eat this, don’t eat that posts would be the end of me anymore. I can’t ‘diet’ anymore. ZC is not a diet to me truly, it is eat all you need at all times and just let true health and natural body balances be restored. And it has done that for me. Without having a macro or diet thought in action…omg I hated all that carb counting and why did I gain this week and didn’t lose that week…I have none of that on zc anymore. I just eat and wait and all great benefits come to me :slight_smile:

So my last lbs that need to leave are leaving slowly but they are leaving and I know body composition is still changing to the good so I am so content to just let it all happen as it needs. My body will take care of me for sure if I just give it zc and don’t manipulate my eating lifestyle.

just chatting out what I think about in a way. How zc is so easy and improves us so much, compared to fighting a ‘darn diet’ all the time and having failures which smack the mind and more.

Simplicity of zc is key for me. Just eat, wait for results. Hey I can do that LOL


#212

@Fangs You’re awesome! You write what I think… With them though, I’ve gone a little passive-aggressive, I guess. I’ll sit off to the side at the kitchen counter, looking at my family, snarfing on carbs - the sugar, the crap. Then they complain about how much they hurt, body aches, belly aches, etc…and I just sit there with my Kermit the Frog face, and swipe a piece of bacon to nibble on. Never even say a peep. They must interpret my facial expression as a smirk. The silence must haunt them, and before long, they just look at me- looking back at them - and its like they know exactly what I’m thinking, because they blurt out…“Oh, stop it Mom. We’re not going to eat JUST meat and pickle juice for the rest of our lives!” I find it hilarious that all I have to do is watch them eat - and they automatically feel like they need to respond like that.

I find it easier and easier to do this, but you’re right…it seems like it takes FOREVER to detox after a bad food episode. A bite of cake leads to one helluva a rabbit hole!

This is no longer a diet to me either. It is a way of life. Yeah, I’m surrounded by things that used to be tempting. And, maybe in a hormonally induced weak moment, I might be drawn to something sugary. But, I’ve been trying to teach/train myself through each episode to just walk away. So far, so good. This past week has been a real test though. Aunt Flo staged a surprise visit, and the hormones have been been on a rollercoaster ride like no other. (Good time for hubby to go on a business trip! LOL!) Had some real digestion issues even though all I’ve had is beef and turkey. No idea where all that came from, but massive sharp stomach pains last night, and ugh. The cows mooing all night, because the calf wouldn’t go back into the fence. The young bull mooing because he got separated out since he’s getting butchered Saturday. Mildly worried about kid #4 going on a boat across Lake Superior while there’s a freakin’ thunderstorm! (Arrived just fine- slept most of the way -no dramamine- having a blast - all good.) Last night was ugh. But I did not go off carnivore after I worked so hard to detox.

Today, Rufus and I went for a wander around the garden, played fetch with Mr. Bunny, fed the chickens some scraps, mixed up some alfalfa pellets for the doomed bull, picked some squashies out of the garden…which will go to my in-laws. Going to clean the kitchen, get the laundry finished, and take off for Marquette in a bit. Find me some canning jars and maybe stop at Kohl’s and use a gift card my cousin gave me for my birthday.

Take care, my dear peeps! Carnivore on, like your life depends on it!


(Kellyn ) #213

I had a large steak with brie cheese melted over the top for lunch today. :drooling_face: It was so delicious and very satiating. It’s the best meal I have had in a long time.


#214

omg too funny SB but I get that every now and then from hubby when he eats crappy and feels icky and I have no sympathy at all. I said over and over our food choices can rule our day and when he goes into crappy food and suffers, so be it :slight_smile: I just parade around him a bit to show off my energy and feeling great and he gives me a smirk also…like move on. I ain’t doing your plan so just keep marching HAHA

So happy to hear this is a lifestyle for you long term. Longer one goes one can’t go back for sure cause our bodies tell us real fast when we eat junky just how bad it is. I gotta say eating this way shows me so much, how food controls us truly and we gotta ditch the carbs big time.

great post SB


#215

carnivore cruising along.

and here I am surprised that Aug is almost over, we are winding down now to the end and boy does time fly.

everything is holding in place on plan. everything is just chilling kinda lately so that is a good thing, I ain’t into no drama anymore :slight_smile: older I get the more I want nothing to do with it ever LOL

got some beef steak for later and will pair up with some chicken I think. Simple and easy as usual…best part of this plan.

omg I remember the old days of making ‘low carb substitute’ for foods and they always tasted like crap. I wanted the real thing, no fake subs and I have to say giving up that part of my life is a blessing. I hate the kitchen anyway, then putting time into making crappy low carb substitute meals was time consuming for something that never tasted good anyway LOL with zc ya fry up some meat and done…love this simplicity for sure :slight_smile:

keep rocking zero carb til end of Aug and we will jump into Sept going strong!!


#216

Is anyone else eating terrine?

It’s strange meaty bits suspended in a matrix of gelatinous protein and fat.

The image is chicken and chorizo terrine as an example.

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I have been driving quite a bit and a slice of terrine has the convenience, in terms of handling and munching on, as… wait for it, as a piece of bread. I know it’s illegal to eat and drive. But here’s the thing. I usually fast at work. On Wednesday, I then have a 3 hour drive home. The car needs fuel, the pup needs dinner. If I grab a slice of terrine, to break my 24-hour fast, it shuts down any cravings I have walking in to pay for the petrol. And have you have ever seen a junk food marketing mouse trap worse than a gas station payment counter?

Terrine. Anyone?

Today was eggs and bacon at high noon for breakfast and scotch fillet steak and a good quality sausage from the local butcher. Washed it all down with rain water.


#217

Never heard of terrine but looks good.
I learn about so many new food on this forum :smiley:

Gas station stuff is expensive so it never could tempt me (it doesn’t matter if I have money, I spent much money on some joyful motorbike tour, that’s costly and still didn’t see any point to buy overprices stuff when I can just stop again using a shop with bigger variety and normal prices. my brain works like this). And it’s usually some processed stuff anyway. I only bought coffee a few times.

I really need whatever help I can get not to become tempted :smiley: It’s almost surely game over then… Not so much in the shops, reading the ingredient list is quite effective… :smiley:

I am quite sure even my few carni days put another layer between me and those. Low-carb was the first, keto added to it but carni… I look at things with very different eyes now. I am still relaxed and open to things sometimes but I still changed for the better.


#218

yes and I so get what you are saying and when we hit a realization of what it takes to be healthy thru food, we can’t backtrack cause it goes against all we learned and hold valuable. It sure helps us ‘not pig out on crap’ LOL


#219

are you buying this at the gas station counter? just wondering LOL

no, never made it. I ain’t a kitchen gal cause I hate recipes but would I eat this, yes I would if I had it readily available. But I never liked cooking and despise baking so for me it is slab of meat, done.

like when we go on trips I cook alot of chicken, with a small sprinkle of seasoning and alot of butter to fry it in…put in tupperware and cold in fridge and when they want to eat fast food, I hit the rv and eat my cold chicken and it is delish. Cold chicken with cold butter and yum…close to a terrine I guess? LOL I don’t know, I ain’t no chef :slight_smile:

fresh rain water, bet you are getting good from that!!!


#220

Nah, it’s at a really good grocery store just near the dog sitter’s home (Mum). they also have really good bone broth there as well.

It is a great way to get organ meats into the eating plan (and collagen), if one is a nose to tail carnivore. It’s another way to eat eggs and eggs from different critters like salties (salt water crocodiles).