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So I had my 3 month T2 check up today. Results in 3-4 days but needless to say, the nurse I saw was impressed and will hassle her overweight son with this new info.
She’d heard of Keto diet but didn’t know any details. She suggested I drain all the fat off my food!
The anti fat bias is sooooooooo ingrained. Did you explain that keto is necessarily high fat?
I did! … she looked shocked. Noticeably shaking her head lol
Bear in mind this is a senior NHS diabetes specialist
Sarah Kleiner
Stephanie Person
Jack Kruse
I know Sarah and Jack may not be keto, but if light, water and magnetism are not considered, many times diet will fail even when perfect. Adding their suggestions to diet can create quantum effects on health.
The smart people do their research then do their own experiments and let their own experiences govern what they do.
Maybe add groups?
Such as, ‘Low Carb Down Under.’
I know, they host lots of guests, at institutions all over the world…but i like the debate that comes with the crowd Q&A after the guests have spoken; then the panel gets stuck in answering the audience questions and not always agreeing. Food for thought.
Yeah. Maybe include a cut off time too as i never got my oar in quick enough for the last two.
Thanks.
The problem with getting our health and diet information from a YouTube doctor is that we are naturally drawn to doctors who confirm our choices and/or our biases. I believe we do this to our detriment. When what you are doing stops working for you, even though you followed all of their advice perfectly, we still unfairly blame ourselves, thinking we are the problem when it could be their advice that is the problem. Trying to objectively research a given topic that goes against our way of thinking can be difficult, but not impossible. Instead, try to look up opposing views or studies and attempt to evaluate them. Currently, less than 50% of all scientific studies published can be replicated by other scientists. There are lots of quacks and charlatans in the health and diet genre on YouTube. I am aware of a very popular biohacker who recently had on his podcast a medical doctor exposing some quackery. Yet a simple search showed that this doctor had lost his licence to practise medicine in California because of the quackery he was recommending. Be careful of your confirmation biases.
As usual, a good post. Part of my thinking on this was to show who “most” of the forum goers respect and watch to demonstrate through group experience those on YouTube that should have consensus value. Of course, if we only look in the keto community, the information will be fairly homogenous. I often search for opposing views to challenge my belief system, but such a list would be counterproductive when introducing a neophyte to this way of eating.
I like watching Nutrition Made Simple even though I normally disagree with his take, I very much like reading the science to question my beliefs and biases. You cannot know someone is wrong if you cannot understand why they think they are correct.
The YouTubers I respect are not YouTubers per se, they are lecturers whose talks have been recorded and posted on YouTube. What impressed me was the commitment these lecturers had to the data, and the amount of citations to the literature contained in their lectures. A lot of the “influencers” on YouTube do not do this, and I avoid them, even if I think they are on the right track.
I got started down this path by listening to people who challenged my belief system, but who managed, despite that fact, to make an awful lot of sense. By contrast, I stumbled across a lecture by a doctor who asserted, without providing any evidence at all, that diabetes was caused by red meat. The complete lack of evidence was what got me, because it just didn’t make sense, not because it went contrary to my preconceptions.
(I have since learned where that notion comes from, and it is based on the clinical experience of people who were trying to treat Type I diabetes on the basis of no knowledge about the disease and its aetiology. We have since learned a great deal about Type I diabetes, and nowhere does red meat figure among the causal factors. It also, by the way, does not figure in the aetiology of Type II, either.)
Yes- that’s how I got into it…Low Carb Down under, Phinney/Lustig at University of California etc.
Absolutely riveting. ‘Sugar’ documentaries and lectures etc. all backed with stats and graphical data/trends, and not selling anything.
I always thought the idea behind this was that people who had the temerity to admit on an FFQ (food frequency questionnaire) that they ate red meat also had higher rates of diabetes. I’ve never seen an actual theory as to WHY this happens.
And all of us who have eaten red meat and pretty much eat nothing BUT red meat can confidently tell you that red meat CURES diabetes.
As far as reading things that challenge my beliefs, I read a lot from many different sources. But often I don’t worry about trying to challenge my beliefs. And there’s only so far I’m going to go. I’m not going to listen to Paul Saladino, for instance, because when I was listening to him, he said so many things that I knew were wrong or held himself out with ideas that just didn’t make sense (you HAVE to only eat raw eggs, but only the yolks and not the whites!!! You HAVE to eat raw liver!!!). Same with people who have too much cognitive dissonance (Peter Attia, Herman Pontzer, as examples). And the same with people who went wacko overboard on covid (Ivor Cummins, Aseem Malhotra as examples).
100% Agreed. But what is good research? And how do we evaluate the time or what are the long-term consequences of doing X vs Y?
Look at intermittent fasting as an example. Some research says that it increases lifespan. Not true. No studies exist on humans that state that fasting will extend lifespans. It did increase the lifespan in two mouse studies by 40%. (The equivalent time would be about a 14-day fasting protocol.) The mice used in these studies were bred specifically for this purpose, and after the fasting protocol, the mice gained back the extra weight and died. Another study that looked at primates and fasting, who most closely resemble humans, did not show any extension of life. Dr. Jason Fung does recommend an IF protocol for his patients, not for life extension but rather to get blood sugars under control. Same with his short-term Keto protocol. Generally, he recommends fasting 3-4 days per week to get the most benefit from fasting. He personally does not fast or eat Keto but routinely misses meals as he is busy and forgets to eat.
I don’t disagree with what you are saying generally, but really, do people ever look at the negatives?
Personally for me, when I embarked on this journey was for health reasons, not aesthetic (I’m not that vain, being a naturally hansome devil no matter what weight I am, lol), it certainly wasn’t to finally grasp the elexir of life. If this makes me live longer…great.
It was to lower HbA1C, reverse T2, get off the CPAP (by losing weight of course, a wee bit vain), reduce BP, and be able to tie my shoelaces without having to exhale my lungs to bend down.
It was necessary.
I felt awful- that wasn’t living…panting going upstairs. I was a young soldier in my time- so this was embarrasing to me the shape I was in at this age. So keto and I went on a journey, and nailed it. Never looked back. Even got romance out of it (but that’s personal).
Now, people who know me IRL will say that’s not keto, that’s just you and your strong will.
My retort would be yes,but I didn’t will myself to get overweight, so answer that?
It is discipline, of course there is that element,but really, once you adjust, well i was amazed at my weight loss. I kept a tracker.
I don’t care about anything other than what is working for me in this case. Intermittent fasting is working as is moderately low carbs. I have more energy, feel better and sleep better than I did even in my 30s. I am able to slim down more than any other time in my life. At 75 how much longer do I have, so I might as well enjoy it.
I wish!
I did in a way, big time, but it’s important not to fall back to old habbits.
So it’s constant…if you feel your woe trend is slipping, then all one has to do remeber how shi7ty one felt before, and the impetus comes back to battle on.
I don’t think Dr David Unwin wanted to be a YouTube sensation, he just realised it was the perfect medium to spread the word after years of frustration.
I enjoy Dr. Sten Ekberg’s videos they are what really got me into thinking about eating better https://youtube.com/@drekberg