Why not avocado?

(bulkbiker) #155

Hence the emphasis on Northern Europe…which is specifically not Spain or Italy or Greece.

(Norma Laming) #156

I bought and cooked some sweatbreads recently and I found them dull and boring,. A real non event :slightly_frowning_face:

(Adrian ) #157

So basically, this sentence alone, if we accept it, proves that Carnivore is an ideology.
I’m gonna call myself a Carnivore if I’ll be eating 90% CV and nobody can stop me

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #158

You can call yourself whatever you want. Opinions are free. Facts are not.

Note: Strict Carnivore/Zero Carb. 100g of avocado is 9g of carbs, 7 of which are fiber. It’s not an animal, and it’s not zero carb. So, you can call yourself a carnivore, and you are a carnivore, but you are not a strict carnivore or zero carb if you are eating avocado, as far as anyone understands the term.

And yes, it is an ideology. Sorry.

Signed, not a Strict Carnivore, but rather an 80% of the diet carnivore.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #159

I wouldn’t describe carnivore as an “ideology,” because the two most prominent carnivores I know of, Amber O’Hearn and Dr. Georgia Ede, both state that they found themselves forced into their way of eating as a means of dealing with specific health problems. Vegetarianism and veganism do constitute ideologies, however, because they are based on a priori assumptions or beliefs that have nothing to do with diet or health. Those ways of eating may be healthful for certain people, but they certainly are deleterious to many.

LCHF/keto eating, by contrast, is totally science-based. This way of eating is certainly healthful for most people, and few, if any, will find it deleterious.

Of course, it behoves me to admit, in the spirit of full disclosure, that my belief in keto/LCHF is not only science-based, but has now also taken on aspects of ideology as well. :bacon::bacon:

#160

This statement by Amber may help.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #161

Thanks, Carol! I had this passage particularly in mind when composing my earlier post:

Words like “pure” make the mistake of conflating the need or decision to stick to a strict definition of a diet with morality. Moreover, they essentially deny the existence of people who have an acute response to the diet as defined by those people . That is, the definition of the carnivore diet is one that excludes almost all plants with the exception of certain things like coffee, because this is the diet that a group of people got together to talk about how it helped them specifically to follow it.

For those that find the post Carol linked to of interest, Amber has a longer version on her blog:

(Elizabeth ) #162
(Adrian ) #163

Ok, so there is Keto: high-fat, adequate (moderate protein), low carb, on one side, and there is Carnivore: high-fat, medium - high - very high protein, zero plants.
Where do you think a ‘Ketogenic Carnivore’ diet fits, and do you think it has benefits. This would be high-fat, moderate - high(ish) protein, so an >85% carnivore diet.

I have been ‘Carnivore’ for almost 2 months, most of the time 100%, but some days, I’ve had an avocado, or some coconut oil here and there… Which makes me ‘Keto carnivore’, so to say.

I know there has been research around Keto and it has more of a scientific backing than Carnivore. Which is what makes me more drawn to it.
Is Keto Carnivore (aka high protein Keto) a smart compromise, or it is the worst of both worlds?

(Miro) #164

I found that calf liver was high in net carbs. Are you not finding that out?
It made it hard to get the protein without the net carbs piling on.

(Elizabeth ) #165

When you’re carnivore carbs in meat are processed a little differently. And actually everything has some carbs in it zero carb carnivore just mean zero plants

(Susan) #166

All that is great --but really Keto can be customized for you how you want --in terms of you can be mostly Carnivore but add Avocado’s, and a few other low carb veggies even if you want… it is not like it ruins or messes up your ability to be in Ketosis or being a healthy, Keto person =).

I love avocados and would not like to have to eliminate them from my food list; even if at some point I would want to go mostly carnivore =).

#167

There are two avocado trees in the garden. They produce abundance and allow social sharing.

The nuance is where i=one sources their avocados. Or any of their foods.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #168

I love Amber and her approach to carnivore. I eat carnivore some days, but don’t think I could do it all the time.

(Libby) #169

I read an article that had a scientist speculate that the seeds of avocados are so huge that avocados must have evolved when there were giant ground sloths around to eat them whole and to whatcha call it… disseminate the avocados. And osage oranges.

Giant ground sloths are cool. I wish they were still around.

Edited to add: they were herbivores.

(Amber ) #170

I love, love chicken livers. Now in the old days I would fry them in flour and now I use butter or bacon fat but they are yummy just the same :):slightly_smiling_face:

(Elizabeth ) #171

I wrap them in bacon and broil

(Wendy) #172

Ooh, that sounds good! I usually cook them in butter and salt and sage. I do love bacon though.

(Edith) #174

Yeah, we’re a chitchatty group and frequently go off topic. :woman_shrugging: It’s nice, though. :grinning:

#175

So you just join and are worrying about what others are “spouting” yet your comment contributes nothing to the conversation… which is over 3yo BTW. This isn’t Reddit, there’s no karma for posting garbage.