What are some of the most fatty things to eat?

#1

3 week newbie here. I am down about 4-6 lbs which I am happy with. However I do not feel quite as satiated as I did initially. What are some of the most satisfying things to eat in the beginning that will eliminate the urges to snack that I am beginning to have? Thankful to have found this forum!

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #2

Welcome. Keep your total carbs sub-20 grams per day. Eat MORE of everything else. One common newbie mistake is to eat too little overall. Keto is not a calorie restricted diet, itā€™s a carb restricted diet. The total amount you eat will become self-regulating as you go along. If you feel hungry all/most of the day, feel the urge to ā€˜snackā€™ between meals, donā€™t feel satisfied - eat more at your meals. A second common mistake is to eat too little protein. Many folks find that protein helps them feel more ā€˜fullā€™ and satiated longer. Best wishes.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #3

What satisfies you depends a bit on how your body works.

The standard advice is to limit carbs to under 20 g/day, eat a reasonable amount of protein, and add fat to satiety. However, to reach satiety, some people need a bit more protein and a bit less fat, whereas others need a bit more fat and less protein.

Bacon is, of course, the fattiest meat, unless you want to try to eat salt pork, or pure rendered fat.

I used to work with a Yorkshireman, who told me that his favourite sandwich was bread spread with butter and lard. Back when he told me this, I was horrified by all that fat, but now that Iā€™ve been eating keto for several years, whenever that memory comes up, Iā€™m horrified by the bread.

(Matt) #4

Bacon can have chemicals and nitrates in it, just like deli meats.
Avacado is nice, add butter and Olive oil to everything.
I buy keto mayo from costco, add avacado and grated pharm cheese and add cherry tomoatoes then cut up pepper and celery and bam thats my snack, I do 18/6 and 20/4 fasting.

Do watch the carb creep, I dont count nothing but I look at the food label and figure out what I am eating in terms of carbs and net carbs.

(Robin) #5

A good fatty brisket. Of course, thatā€™s my cure-all for literally everything.

(Alec) #6

Any fatty meatā€¦

(Allie) #7

Play around with fats and protein, some people actually need more protein rather than more fat (me being one of them).

(Marianne) #8

When I started, I loved having a breakfast of 3 eggs and a couple of slices of bacon. Having never eaten breakfast before, even though I was large, I found this held me more than satisfactorily. ā€œLunchā€ would be something very small but rich - 3 oz. cream cheese, romaine salad slathered with home made blue cheese (easy), dollup of tuna salad with a little mayo - whatever I could manufacture quickly out of the fridge. After doing this for several weeks, I found I didnā€™t need a mid-day meal and just ate breakfast and dinner (no snacks).

Favorite cuts of meat are pork steaks (great meat to fat ratio), chicken breasts with a rich cream sauce - no recipe - just throw stuff together (Iā€™m not crazy about chicken thighs - too much waste and nasty stuff, although they are delicious and very fatty), large 73/27 cheeseburger, chuck roast, pork ribs, steamed brussels sprouts with salt and bacon grease or butter, etc. My husband and I still marvel at how we can eat on this. He lost what little weight he had and I lost a lot - very easily. I was never a huge fan of veggies, although I did like some, so I usually only ate anything out of the ground at dinner time, maybe sometimes a romaine salad at lunch. This helped me keep the carbs well under 20g/day without tracking for sweating it.

I have never experienced a ā€œdietā€ as easy as this was for me. Keto took away all the cravings for sweets and carbs that used to torture me. Now they are just a passing thought that I can easily dismiss. This is now my new way of eating, no playing around with occasional cheating or deviations.

Good luck!

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #9

And just like plants, too. Many popular vegetables have far more nitrate per gram than meats do. So if they are a problem in meat, then we need to watch what plants we eat, as well.

(Bob M) #10

Me too. Iā€™ve switched from pepperoni to ham, ribeye to top round, no bacon, low to no cheese, low to no cream, no nuts except rarely, no mayo except rarely, little to no butter, etc.

I will still eat these, though not nearly as much as when I started.

A few reasons: (1) tried high fat after reading Jimmy Mooreā€™s Keto clarity, where he advocated high fat, such as adding butter to your meat, was never satiated; (2) tried The Croissant Diet, a very high saturated fat diet, with some carbs including croissants, gained 20-25 pounds in a very short time, all in my belly.

Now, if youā€™re one of those that can eat cream cheese or butter or the like and feel sated, then keep eating those. If you can eat as much butter as you want and still be hungry, like me, then consider something else.

(Viola Rosan) #11

Lots of water/flavored mineral water. Pickles, cucumbers, celery w/ dressing or PB, kale chips, hard boiled eggs, jerky, tuna, deli meats, cheese slices/string cheese/cheese blocks/cheese everything, baked cheese chips, bacon in a baggy, almonds/other nuts (flavored sometimes), and no sugar jello & whipped cream.
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(Robin) #12

Interesting you mention CREAM CHEESE. That (and Heavy Cream) is really my only add-on to total carnivore. And I find that I only want it when I feel a real urge to fill a void. I will down half of one of those Philly cream cheese packages.
The next day, my system cleans out better than usual and I feel better and my weight stays the same. I guess it must be the fat? I dunno. But itā€™s my friend.

#13

Boiled pork belly. Absolutely delicious and probably the fattiest meat.

#14

eat more of that meal ya just ate, when in doubt if no leftovers, cook another meal. your meal is what stops that snacking urge. just eat more of the good stuff you are eating! Not sure on menu but I hope it IS the good stuff, lol, as in do not eat sugar free jello or pickles or any other crap to just snack out, eat a meal again, protein loaded, fresh real food, all ya want, you can never go wrong on that one.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #15

@Fangs has a point. Our standard advice, which I forgot to mention, and which applies both to a ketogenic diet and to a zero-carb/carnivore diet, is that if you need to snack, snack on foods that are part of the diet, and then be sure to eat more at meals. The advice to cook another whole meal is heard more in the carnivore world, but Iā€™d bet it works for regular keto, as well. And the point of all this is that it works better to eat enough food at meals to eliminate the urge to snack.

Ideally, we want to eliminate the need to eat between meals, by getting enough food when we do eat. Part of the reason is to keep insulin as low as possible for as much of the day as possible, and eating causes a rise in insulin. True, eating ketogenic foods causes a lower rise than eating carbohydrates or sugar, but it is helpful to avoid even that smaller rise, if at all possible.

Now, a lot of people are horrified by this advice, because they are used to the standard advice to eat less and move more, which is intended for people eating the standard, high-carb diet. We find that we get better results by not going hungry, and we can reduce insulin the best by eating enough at meals to eliminate the need to eat at other times. The bodyā€™s hormonal response to the foods we eat trumps the amount of calories we take in.

(Bob M) #16

@robintemplin If you can eat cream cheese and feel it helps, then I think itā€™s a great idea. Iā€™ve seen plenty of people who can eat it.

I think some of this also depends on you (meaning, anyone reading this). For instance, I have an aversion to pork fat (other than bacon). I think itā€™s disgusting, honestly. Itā€™s ā€œmushyā€. I can eat pork from Brad from Fire in a Bottle, but that fat is much harder, as itā€™s much higher in saturated fat.

So, if I eat pork fat, it has to be in something like pork shoulder, where itā€™s got a lot of meat too. Something like pork belly is very difficult for me to eat.

Part of this may be because I spent years eating a Pritikin diet, very low fat, as in less than 10% of calories from fat. It took me forever to be able to like any fat.

As always, I think the best person to test this is you. If you find yourself able to eat fatty meat or other fat, find it filling, and find the taste good, then by all means do eat it. If you find yourself never full even though youā€™ve eaten a lot of fat, and actually still hungry, then fat might not be for you.

For @PaulL and @Fangs, we have been trying to get our teen/tween kids to realize that if theyā€™re still hungry, itā€™s probably due to a lack of eating enough at a meal. Unfortunately, the entire world is allied against them. They build snack time into the school day. Teachers have bowls of candy/chocolates the kids can take. Itā€™s insane, really.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #17

When one of the nutrition researchers the McGovern committee asked to testify criticised the proposed dietary guidelines and protested against performing such a large-scale experiment on the American people, one of the staffers replied, ā€œHonestly, what harm could it possibly do?ā€

Guess weā€™ve found the answer, huh?

#18

fighting the same battle here on my ā€˜well educated low carb lifestyleā€™ almost 17 yr oldā€¦she gets not to eat the breads like insanity or the sugar inhaling but in the end, if NOT FED just right, she dumps to eat this and that and grabs crap and moreā€¦IF I COULD only get that point across but I am a dino and to be ignored but I also say, at some point, live and learn thru real life :slight_smile: But I so feel you on it!!!

I canā€™t even pretend I am ā€˜partā€™ of this younger lifestyle cause it is SO varied from gens that were closer in tech and movement, now they are leaps in a whole new world that I guess we ā€˜kinda bow outā€™ and hope for the best?:slight_smile: weeā€¦as much as I care, I got my own darn troubles!

#19

that olā€™ saying which holds massive truths and yet it is dismissed:

we are what we eat.

canā€™t get any simpler but how to navigate it all today and when younger, does one care, immortal after all ya know :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

(Allie) #20

I donā€™t mind it, really like pork belly, but it doesnā€™t like me - pork fat always makes me really sick :nauseated_face: