Twelve Days of Carnivore!


#255

An inspiring art work
On the 11th day.

The exciting thing about the “Twelve Days of Carnivore” is that we get to do it twice before Christmas Eve.

I need to reset and have another go at it.

Great planning @Fangs


My wife is a yogini. She’s up before the sun and with the birds’ dawn chorus. I wake and chat for a few minutes. Then I go back to sleep for another 3 hours or more. That second sleep feels so deep. When I wake I’m ready to get going.

Our tiny farm smells of eucalyptus. It’s on the summer breeze. It’s a volatile oil from the trees that are around us. There is a lemon-scented eucalyptus tree at the top of the driveway in. I crush and rub the leaves in my hands. Sometimes I’ll add a rosemary sprig. There is something to exercising one’s sense of smell that fits into beneficial things to do to feel well.


Fungi,we meet again, the ultimate carnivore ‘cheat’, or a carnivore’s conundrum.

Crab stuffed mushroom totally acceptable carnivore food in my book.


(Vic) #256



Half Pork half Beef sausages and meatballs.
Some dutch cheese melted on top as dressing


(Vic) #257

I’m going Ketovore for a few weeks. Sorry :pensive:


(Karen) #258

I stopped drinking gallons of coffee about2.5 years ago. I would drink it thick and black so that you could stand a spoon in it lol loved the jittery buzz I got from it so thought I hot to give it up. Can’t have been doing me any good atall . It is only just recently I smelt some coffee a chap at work was brewing and I could have slipped back quite easily so I quickly got myself a spicy chai and removed the temptation. I drink everything black as I don’t like the taste of milk so at least I didn’t have the problem of giving milk up as well! Good luck with ditching it altogether. I now have a large drawer full of loose teas, black, earl grey, spicy chai, vanilla chai and some night time chillax teas that also seem to aid getting off to sleep. I just have to remember to have one :laughing:


#259

Thank you for the support! IRL and on IG - people well meaningly want to sell me on the concept of coffee being absolute vital. :joy:


(Karen) #260

Sorry to hear about your hubby having IBS that isn’t very nice atall however watching Bake Off isn’t maybe the answer lol. I fortunately live on my own and haven’t the added problems of someone else waking me. Mind you I sometime share hotel rooms with my dancing partner when the hotels want to charge single supplement on their single rooms! He fortunately sleeps pretty quietly but I still struggle cos I can hear a pin drop. Its the only time I will maybe take a prescription zopliclone. Takes me almost a year to get through 1 packet as I only take them at those times cos I do all the driving and need to sleep at some point during the time away! Otherwise on the very odd occasion when I can’t sleep before a work day. Doesn’t help being partially retired and not working every day cos you can bet the only night I can’t sleep is that one lol. But as I said earlier the eucalyptus usually does the trick.


(Karen) #261

@Fracmeister I can do the same thing as you… I regularly wake between 4 and 430am and nip to the loo then back in to bed and sleep the best sleep ever, the only thing is that sleep is always the quickest! Of course if I am going to work it is very frustrating to wake up at that time as I have the alarm set for 445am and I despair at the thought of only having maybe 20 more mins to sleep when I k ow I need at least 3 more hours :upside_down_face: I would love to have those trees near me I would be using those leaves for some potion or other. Lucky you x


#262

Similar. I made mushroom stew lately, it was nice but I put it into the freezer and Alvaro ate almost the whole thing. Even on my very off days when I don’t try to avoid plants and mushrooms, I just taste and don’t want a proper amount. It may be pretty normal to you now but still very odd to me. I am not this good with everything but vegetables and mushrooms? I won’t get much carbs from them, that’s sure.

Carni will be nice when I go back to it, right now I can’t even think about trying to eat meat again. I probably overdid it for a few days. November was fine, I ate everything, eggs, cheese, some other dairy and in average, 0.64 pounds of meat a day, it was a nice amount, not too little, not too much… At least I could handle it for a month (except my few off days). Then I stopped eating eggs, had some very meaty days (at least percentage wise, my appetite wasn’t the usual after the accident) and it has a backslash now. Not the best as I don’t see a single good option regarding my eating but it’s not so bad and I will start to try eating meat (and more eggs) without desire soon, I just eat as many bites I can without real force… It’s possible it will work very well but I really should avoid these food aversion situations in the first place. November was the meatiest month in my whole life, probably by far and I changed a lot pretty quickly for me… I expect more changes in the future. It’s not comfortable to be “forced” (it’s not so bad but I must be careful and that’s troublesome) to eat every usual food group (eggs, dairy, meat) very nearly every day or else I will get bored of my food and chaos ensues unless I do my best and focus all the time (but that’s tiring).

Sleep: I miss the old times when I lie down with the intent of sleeping and I fell asleep in a few seconds. So waking up (good luck to wake me up in the first 6-8 hours. it’s a very, very hard task even now) was never a problem, I could went back to sleep.
Now… I usually sleep or watch something until I fall asleep. It happened at 4am yesterday but I napped a bit before. And if I properly wake up, no matter how I lack sleep… I can’t go back to sleep.
Fortunately I don’t wake up in the middle of the night (well, I go to bed in the middle of the night :D). Alvaro does and go back to sleep. If he wakes up early, like, at 4am, he can’t sleep again.
And his Mom told me lately that she wakes up in the middle of the night and he must sit for an hour but it’s due to something with her back. I would be a zombie after such a bad sleep, I need my 6-8 hours in one. And if nothing extreme happens, I have at least most of them, alarms can’t break though. Hunger is out of question. And I definitely don’t need to pee at night, no matter what. I drink very much in the evening and at night before bed, no problem. I was always good at this.
But if someone enters the room, I wake up. It must be normal as in maths camps all the girls woke up when the person responsible to wake us up silently entered and even more silently stood in the middle of the room. We all wake up quickly.
So if I am alone and go back to bed late, almost nothing can force me to wake up at the right time. My alarms has no chance. If the alarm is super insistent, loud and agressive, I will have a very bad nightmare about the alarm that can’t be turned off. There is always an alarm clock, I take it apart, get out the batteries, whatever, it keeps ringing. It took ages for me to wake up. After several such nightmare I made sure my agressive alarm sounds are cool songs, not some annoying nightmare fuel. But I easily ignore those if I didn’t sleep nearly enough. I always had this skill.

But if I barely wake up and immediately go back to sleep, I have dreams I remember… My tiny naps are filled with dreams too. The naps happen when I have lack of sleep and it’s afternoon and especially after a big meal. I sleep wonderfully then.
And I probably simply can’t fall asleep when hungry. I almost never tried it all my life but when I did, it almost never worked. Once I was very stubborn and that sleep was my worst ever so never again. (My short starving was “okay”, I wasn’t hungry so I slept well enough. And I always stop fasting if I get hungry so that is fine too.)

I never noticed my woe would have any effect on the quality of my sleep. Well, sure, if I would feel horrible when awake due to some horrible diet, my sleep would be bad too but if I am even remotely fine, my sleep is similar.
Or… Maybe not feeling a moody super low-energy zombie in the morning means I sleep better now? It’s hard to tell, I definitely slept enough before too, I feel those things. There is a thing that enough but not good enough sleep? Probably.


(Karen) #263

100 stair runs up and down plus an hours CrossFit worked up just a nice hunger for my brunch, a gorgeous butchers ribeye steak.

Slow cooked in the oven the humungus beef short ribs and the 2 lrolled lamb breasts and of course had to check the lamb was cooked so ate half of one and yep definitely cooked and tasty. Plus had a mug of the chicken broth I made earlier in week.

Carved up the remainder of the beef brisket that I had slow cooked earlier in week and popped in fridge for if I feel peckish to try and stop me snacking on cheese

Can’t upload my photos :disappointed:


(Daisy) #264

Here is today’s eats all on one plate, though it will be eaten in 2 meals. Eggs with butter and hollandaise, bone broth jello, halloumi, liver pâté (all eaten in first meal). Then the big bowl is almost a pound of chorizo and 6 ounces of ground beef. The chorizo is super clean from a local butcher and the ground beef is from my cow. Topped with some butter and salt of course!
I ate about half of it with this meal and the other half will be dinner.


(Vic) #265

Dinner.

Kidney and liver.
Smoked salmon for dessert.


#266

I had a “Cowboy Angus” bone-in ribeye for morning meal. I think it was about a pound actual weight.

Einstein said, “Everything should be as simple as possible. And no simpler.”

I return to that thought as I am tempted to go on a fast to hit my “goal weight”. Then I have a steak. :cut_of_meat:


#267

:crazy_face::skull_and_crossbones: no they are not and your book can not be any different than my book when it comes to eating plants or fungus :partying_face::astonished::eyes:

remember all this is not acceptable food for carnivore, plus that crab stuffing in that sucker while piled high and delish was breadcrumbs or whatever crap in it but I knew one was nothing to me…a vacation blip.

so no one follow what I did :crazy_face::smirk:

back to normal today and zc as usual…Dec will fly by for all of us.


(Vic) #268

Depressing times, I’m suffering the stupidity, that borders on crimes of the local politician’s. There will be no xmas dinner at my place, its illegal.

I need confort food:
Carnivore ice cream I made for xmas


(UsedToBeT2D) #269

Yum. What’s in it?


(Vic) #270

35% fat Cream, egg yolks, vanilla extract. Half a teaspoon of honey.


(Daisy) #271

I’m so sorry to hear… I hate all of this so much…
But yum on the ice cream…


(Edith) #272

Boy! I am away for a day and there’s 20 new messages.

I figured it was time for my “no supplements update.” Warning! This may end up being a long post.

I have taken magnesium for years. Many years ago, long before keto, I was having heart palpitations, anxiety, and restless legs. After reading “The Magnesium Miracle” I started supplementing Mg and those symptoms including the heart palpitations went away.

Then, about six months into keto, the heart palpitations came back. ( I won’t go into all the gory details. You can do a search on the forum and find all my posts about the palpitation trouble shooting I did.) At the time, I figured it couldn’t be magnesium, because I was still supplementing with it.

I thought I had some food intolerances because certain foods would give me palpitations after I ate them. Then I learned about histamine intolerance (which explained the food intolerances, actually). Cutting back on histamine containing foods was actually a big help, but the palpitations never went completely away.

Next I found out about oxalates. Going low oxalate finally put the nail in the coffin. I think that the oxalates depleted me of magnesium. I switched to a mostly carnivore diet and really upped my magnesium intake. After a month or so, the palpitations were gone. So was the anxiety I’d been having along with the palpitations.

Over the past year I was able to decrease the amount of magnesium I was taking unless going through an oxalate dump, and then I would have to increase the dosage for a few days. Heart palpitations were pretty much gone unless eating a lot of histamine containing food. (High histamine still gives me palpitations.)

Well, that brings me to my pure carnivore trial. The carnivore experts say that one does not need supplements when eating a carnivore diet. So, a month ago I stopped my supplementation of magnesium, calcium, and salt. Now, I didn’t completely stop salt. I still salt my food. I’m just not supplementing any extra.

I have to admit, my body did go through an adjustment when I lowered my salt intake, but now it is used to the new levels and seem to be doing just fine with them. But…the last few days I have felt terrible after I eat. It reminds me of when I was having all the palpitations after I ate a few years back. I’ve started having anxiety again. Anxiety is a symptom of magnesium deficiency.

So, tonight I have restarted my magnesium supplements. For some reason my body needs the extra magnesium. Who knows, maybe after a few more years of healing and staying off Diet Coke, I won’t need it any more, but for now, I think I still do.

I will see how I feel in a few days after restarting the Mg & Ca, (they need to be balanced) and let you know if I was correct and need the supplements.


#273

wow I am really sorry to hear this, what restrictions did they put on you guys in your area? that is rough truly!!


(Edith) #274

Can you at least celebrate amongst the members of your own household?