Wonderfully helpful post!
The Entire Ketogenic Diet in One Sentence
atomicspacebunny
(Bunny)
#174
How come nobody ever told me low cholesterol is a precursor to cancer?
Thought that was a nice one-liner?
Dlew99
#175
New and started keto on 9/3/2019 and gave nit list anything. Love your one-liner and am going to restart keto tomorrow using this advice and see if I have better results.
I think Iām overthinking this and concentrating too much on meeting my daily calories my fat protein and net carb %. I will say that I have stayed under net 20 carbs per day.
My other issue is that I think Iām getting overwhelmed by reading too much about keto. Iām feeling frustrated and confused because every keto calculator is giving me different numbers to go by so Iām nit even sure where to start and to focus on.
Iām 53F, CW 160, 5ā 2ā. Any suggestions and help would be very much welcomed.
LIVE_Young
(Live Young)
#176
Thank you! This IS good advice. I am on day 11 and so anal about charting every single gram of everything, probably stressing I am not dropping weight others are, and maybe thinking to much about it all. I will try to remember this concept and your article has helped. I wanted you to know. 
RightNOW
(PJ)
#177
Try this link:
https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
Itās easier to remember
However the message they have on the site now worries me:
I hope itās as easy to use as this one. And āresearch-focusedā ā I wonder what that means in this context.
Donna_Baptiste
(Donna Baptiste)
#179
Thank you so much for your post. Im near tears with so much information, Iām overwhelmed, Iām just 34 days in keto and spending money on stuff that could wait until Iām at least fat adapted. Thank you again.
FatMan
(Richard Hanson)
#185
As a T2 Diabetic, my one sentence description of Keto is perhaps a bit more self serving:
Donāt eat anything that turns into sugar in the blood.
This would necessarily include excessive amounts of protein.
Keto for Life,
Richard
FatMan
(Richard Hanson)
#186
I am not Canadian, I am a Texan, but the fact is there are Canadians that are insulted when American is assumed to exclude Canadians and it is also a fact that Canada is part of America, just like Texas.
Keto for Life,
Richard
MarkGossage
(bulkbiker)
#189
Not really a definition of excessiveā¦
As well as maybe be a demand driven process so it could well be more likeā¦ āprotein that is required to be turned into glucose in the bloodstreamā ?
FatMan
(Richard Hanson)
#190
Hi Mark,
There is no one number for protein and recommendations very tremendously, depending on the source. Functional definitions are definitions even if they are not quantitative. If I eat more then about 70g of protein a day then I start to have problems with my blood sugar numbers. For me protein > 70g a day is excessive.
Excessive protein is more than is necessary, desirable; immoderate.
Keto for Life,
Richard
MarkGossage
(bulkbiker)
#191
Can be quite a dynamic processā¦ used to be a guy on the diabetes.co.uk forum who said protein raised his blood sugars then went carnivore eating raw liver and steaksā¦ and surprise surprise no higher blood sugars from protein.
Iād go so far as to say it depends entirely on where you are on the recovery from T2 schedule as to the likely impact. For those approaching normoglycemia I think it has little to no impactā¦
I averaged about 150g per day of protein in 2019 with an HbA1c of 27 mmol/m (4.6%)
Keep monitoring and donāt restrict unnecessarily.
FatMan
(Richard Hanson)
#193
Hi Mark,
Cooked meat has about 7g of protein per ounce. Why would anyone want to choke down a 20 oz steak every day? Alternatively, I could cram two dozen eggs into my face. Why would I do that?
I like both steak and I eat eggs, although I mostly just eat the egg yokes, to avoid excessive protein.
Perhaps, if I was trying to add a large volume of vanity muscle in the gym, I might actually want to eat 150g of protein per day. Considering how many obese people are in the west with a superabundance of available nutrition, it is necessary for a great many people to intentionally restrict what they eat.
Keto for Life,
Richard
MarkGossage
(bulkbiker)
#194
Why notā¦ tasty and nutritious satiating Iāll be having one tonight, well about 17.5 oz ribeye for dinner 500g. When you only eat once or twice a day as I do thenā¦
I can assure you there is no āchoking it downā involvedā¦
FatMan
(Richard Hanson)
#195
Dr. Valter Longo at the University of Southern California how shown that eating high levels of protein is associated with significant higher rates of mortality, 75%, then when compared to those eating a lower protein diet.
This may or may not prove out, but I see no reason at all to consume far more protein then the body needs. One of the best reasonās to fast is to avoid eating any protean at all to allow for a period of autophagy.
I most often eat OMAD, but choking down that big a piece of meat every day just kind of sounds gross. I would much rather eat a more moderate volume, say 4 oz, smothered in butter. The family eats steak quite often, a few hours in the sou vide, we have two, and then a fast reverse sear on the grill, awesome dinner.
Do you perceive any health benefits from eating such a massive volume of protein every day?
I am happy to admit that I know almost nothing about nutrition, but then no one else does either, so I am not going to tell you what to eat. I would only council moderation and dietary diversity. A protein intake of 150g a day sounds rather immoderate.
I think if I had consumed foods in moderation in my past, then I would never have developed T2 diabetes and it is unlikely that I would now be eating a diet that is so low in carbohydrates that it must be viewed as immoderate. When I eat over 70g a day then I get sick so I donāt do it. I try to stay well below that number.
Keto for Life,
Richard