Still not losing weight after 3 years on keto

(Bunny) #64

The long one is the sinker…lol

(Feeling better ty) #65

Yes I see you said adding, but I don’t add nuts and seeds, I just don’t know where you came up with that

(Feeling better ty) #66

I have gone 18 hours but haven’t tried going longer, if I did I would probably have to stay close to home in case my gut hurts from becoming hungry, I like to go for long bike rides and I need plenty of vegetables for the potassium so I don’t get a muscle cramp, I haven’t been brave enough to go longer, ty for the suggestion I will eventually, and I take Redmond’s sea salt with me everywhere I go

(Feeling better ty) #67

You have gotten suggestions to try and have dismissed them completely? Like what? You mean things I have tried already, but you don’t see that, you ppl know it all, I can’t text anything without getting my head bit off, intermittent fasting I have tried off and on and I don’t see any weight coming off, I wasn’t really looking to lose weight just feel good and avoid becoming type 2 diabetic and other things, but then I go 3 years and not losing weight that I thought would be a result, and you say I don’t ask questions, well I don’t have any because I have read a lot of this forum, and some I understand and agree and some not

#68

FYI. Any fasting under 18 hours and over 26 hours is useless because fasting under 18 hours daily doesn’t raise growth hormone that much and growth hormone decreases after 26 hours of fasting. Growth hormone drives lipolysis (fat burning) but it takes fasting for more than 18 hours daily for a week or more to notice the higher levels.

Try daily fasting for 23 hours and eat for 1 hour.

Try tipid showers or cold douche your skull and testicles.

All these activities active sufficient SIRT3 and this is what you’re looking for.

(Feeling better ty) #69

By clinging to reality, you’re denying the reality of the situation!

(Feeling better ty) #70

I can’t sleep till midnight at least that might be part of my problem, but hard to break even though I didn’t get enough sleep the night before

#71

Jarrow formulas methyl B12 1000mcg is what I take if I can’t fall asleep. It raises melatonin levels. Other B12 supplements don’t work from my experience.

(Edith) #72

It was just suggestions/advice. Nothing more.

(Bunny) #73

Well, that’s what a dose of reality will do to you. It’s why I never touch the stuff. I find it waters down the hallucinations.

Don’t believe me? Look what the great Sages aeons ago had to say about it?

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(bulkbiker) #74

I find it hard to think you were eating pure carnivore yet still having 35g of carbs per day?
Where were they coming from?

(bulkbiker) #75

Depends if you are trying to achieve autophagy or not?

Fasting over 26 hours is far from “useless”… it might not be what you want to achieve but sweeping statements like this don’t really help anyone.

(Scott) #76

Meh

(Gregory - You can teach an old dog new tricks.) #77

There are many threads about people who have had problems losing weight while following/or not, keto guidelines.

Have you looked at any of those?

https://www.ketogenicforums.com/c/progress/stall-point

(John) #78

What are your vital statistics? Height, weight, age, activity level, job. You have a calorie goal we can see, but no idea what you are burning.

If I stay at home I burn around 2400 calories. A very rare day. Generally I burn between 3500-4300 a day. Exercising 2-3 hours each day.

You need to calculate your calorie burn before deciding your deficit.

When I first started, I used an app called Carb Manager. What I like about it is how it builds something based on your input selection and then let’s you choose your diet plan. I chose the high protein keto (I’m physically active daily) and set at first 2500 calories target. You then get a pie chart with your consumed percentages. You get a projected weight loss over time.

I typically stick between 60-65% of my calories from fat. 30-35% protein and then 5% gross carbs, not net. When I first started I went through diarrhea and constipation stages. Keep eating greens (broccoli, spinach, cucumber, asparagus).

I never had the sudden drop. Probably cos my muscle glycogen is now getting converted from protein. I need that. I’m in ketosis though and the weight is melting off me.

I now struggle to eat 2000 calories a day. It feels forced. I could easily go a few days without eating anything.

The easiest part of keto for me is how hunger has gone. I have no desire to overeat. No desire to snack. I don’t feel tired in the day. I sleep much better.

Reading your posts, it sounds like you aren’t fat adapted at all. Try some of my advice above and see if you can become fat adapted. If you genuinely try and for some reason it doesn’t work, consider a calorie controlled paleo diet.

#79

Decrease in growth hormone = a decrease in autophagy.

People give up on fasting because they either are not fasting long enough or fast for too long. Adopting extremes leads to failure.

I don’t agree with everything this guy says in the following video but he is spot on in regards to daily fasting and exercise.

(bulkbiker) #80

I have never been either a mouse or a vegan.
No-one as yet fully understands autophagy and a mouse study will, I seriously doubt, further our knowledge of how it works in humans very much.
As I said sweeping statements from anybody really aren’t helpful when we are looking at things on the bleeding edge of science.

(Gregory - You can teach an old dog new tricks.) #81

I wonder how much the grant was for that?

Next up: To understand dehydration, we…:grinning:

#82

I don’t know why I even bother replying to your messages. You’re still butthurt from me calling you out and now you keep regurgitating what someone else has said to make me feel bad. Doesn’t work because you’re like the class clown that doesn’t care. You’re only here to feed your own ego.

These data indicate that GH stimulation of autophagy is necessary over the long term, but not sufficient over the short term to maintain blood glucose levels in fasted, fat-depleted mice.
https://europepmc.org/article/med/25583513

(Gregory - You can teach an old dog new tricks.) #83

This would seem to indicate that once one has reached their fat loss goals, extended fasting might not be a good idea…