Reasons to Limit Dairy?


(CharleyD) #41

Yeah about the AIP, I have only heard anecdotally that after a while reintroduction of dairy was ok. This is one of those hazy areas where not only is every one different, your own microbiome and gut epithelium is different day to day, year to year.

So it’s possible that an allergen today won’t necessarily be an allergen after healing has happened.


(Beth) #42

That’s exactly consistent with what I’ve been reading on the topic. In theory, the elimination phase of AIP should be followed for 3 months before reintroduction if possible, but a month is the minimum, which is what we did.


(Karen) #43

I believe you lose the enzymes to digest dairy. They don’t come back. Might be worth it. Cheese is starting to not taste good to me.

K


#44

I gave up dairy for a month to see if it would make any difference to some foot pain and joint pain I have lived with for most of my adult life ( age 35++). Very little difference in pain but have dropped a kilo. I don’t really want to lose weight.
****TMI WARNING ****
My bowel movements seem to have reduced in size since eliminating dairy. Why?


(Linda Johnson ) #45

KetoWally, I’m trying dairy free as well to see if my arthritis gets better. Did it help you?


(Lesley) #46

Hi Linda. Unfortunately I’ve not manged to go dairy free yet. It’s something I still intend to try but I’m feeling relatively brilliant at the moment and keep putting it off.


#47

I have been completely dairy free for 2 weeks now. I am losing fat again (body fat percentage noticeable). I managed to get more fat thru olive oil and MCT/coconut oil and more meat. Heavy cream was an easy way for me to get fat right away, but i’ve learned to adapt and don’t need it anymore. the dairy was slowing me down.
I should mention that I have been using butter for cooking only, not sure if I should completely cut it out. any suggestions?


(tulsanurse1) #48

What is AIP?


(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #49

Goat’s milk has a different flavor that cow milk, as goat flesh does from beef. Nearly every young goat cheese will have a tanginess that is not present in young cow cheeses. That said, I have learned to enjoy that tanginess and get over my non-cow milk anxiety.


(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #50

Butter has no protein in it, so should not trigger any casein sensitivity.


(Beth) #51

Autoimmune protocol, it’s an elimination diet that seeks to remove common allergens and foods that can trigger an immune response (grains, alcohol, nuts, seeds, nightshade veggies, dairy, seed oils, eggs). After about a month on it you reintroduce foods that have been eliminated one by one, waiting several days between reintroductions to determine if they are causing you problems. This diet has been an amazing transformation for my husband whose reflux, IBS, body aches, sleep apnea, eczema and chronic nasal issues have been dramatically improved by it. It’s a version of really low carb paleo/keto diet.

He is a FOODIE so it was hard at first, but now he is happily following it and doesn’t plan to end it. He has identified several things that trigger him and reintroduced several things successfully. His IBS, interestingly, seems to continue improving and he is now having pretty normal bowel function on a daily basis 90% of the time. That was his worst problem, he was running to the bathroom several times a day. His sister had the same issue and has also cured it with an elimination approach.

For me, keto, which I was on for more than a year before AIP, reduced my knee pain and I had no additional benefit from the AIP that I can tell.

Hopefully this helps. You will see AIP if you do a search in this forum. I believe there are several people who have used it in the context of keto to heal themselves.


(tulsanurse1) #52

Thank you so much for the explanation.


#53

I had an allergy to dairy for many years - I do not know what component. It was not lactose. I could not eat butter either or I’d have a reaction. Ghee was no problem.

If you melt butter down to make ghee, the residue that remains when the clear fat is decanted contained the allergen that affected me. Unfortunately, it’s also what gives butter a nice flavor since ghee tastes flat to me.


(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #54

Milk solids… sorry.


(Beth) #55

Yes interesting. The reintroduction phase of AIP has GHEE as a level 1 (first introduction) and butter as a level 2, so this logic confirms the phasing.


(Deb Wright) #56

My Bloodsugars increase when I eat cheese. or heavy whipping cream in coffee so another words any dairy raises my blood sugar. I think, it’s the lactose, because grass fed butter does not affect my blood sugar, that is me.


#57

That happened with me and eggs. TMI warning

Up until my first pregnancy in my 30s I ate egg on a roll several times a week. Loved it. After my second child was born I found I could no longer eat even well cooked scrambled eggs or omelettes or creme brulee without having horrible pain an hour later and running to the bathroom. I could still eat cake. Hardboiled eggs would sometimes cause a little discomfort 6 hours later. After about 10 years of not really eating eggs except in baked and cooked foods, I started using egg beaters and found no problems. Then after 15 years I started using pastuerized real eggs. One day about 2 years ago the supermarket ran out and I bought organic and was surprised to have no more problems. I eat soft boiled and raw eggs in mayonnaise without a problem. I eat them all the time now

Interestingly, I once tried an elimination diet called the Plan by Lyn-Genet, I really liked it but could not stick to it. I did react according to her rules to eggs by immediately gaining weight which is a sign of inflammation