One week newb here...I ate a potato today, out of ketosis?

[Missslucrew]

So, here I am…day 9 of this lifestyle. Actually, I’m not quite sure what it is yet since I just started. My motivation for doing this is purely to lose weight. I am in the process for getting the gastric sleeve, probably in February 2019, but I thought I should do something to get rid of this embarrassingly fat body!

I found this forum doing a web search. I am currently on a Facebook page that is supposed to be for beginners, but it seems like there are a million Keto Nazi’s on there…disturbing. So, today I posted about Ore-Ida Just Crack an Egg meals. I need on the go things that I can have in my fridge at work so I can get over those little cravings I have or, like today, when someone in the office brings tasty yummy donuts and I can’t have any! So, I guess I broke all the rules when I actually ate the potatoes in the Just Crack an Egg meal…it’s about 1/4 cup of cubed white potato…I didn’t think much of it since the packaging says it’s 3 net carbs.

Do you think that eating that many potatoes will kick me out of ketosis? According to my Pee strips I have a decent amount of ketones, but I’ve only been doing this for 9 day!!!

I have lost a total of 7 pounds by the way.

Thanks for having me here, I hope this lifestyle works out for me like I have seen it work for others!

[grinch734]

1/4 cup potato is not much. Find some better snack food though. Hard boiled eggs, guac, pork rinds, Duke’s sausages, jerky, cheese crisps, brie, nuts, coconut flakes, etc.

[newtoketonot]

I started off on LCHF, then Keto before I knew what it was, and currently Fifth month into Carnivore.
“Do you think that eating that many potatoes will kick me out of ketosis?”
For some reason after reading that, and I have never had any cravings what so ever.
I really, really felt like a chip butty. For you Americans that’s chipped fried potatoes sandwiched between two slices of bread and butter.
Welcome and good luck Nicole. MMMnnnn my mouth is watering for that chip butty. But I won’t.

[ctviggen]

The best snack is no snack at all. Every snack will raise insulin, and you want to drive that down.

Also, any prepared food will be high in seed oils, and you want to avoid those.

[LeCheffre]

Looking at the bacon, egg and cheese,it clocks at 3.5g net carb with the egg (the nutrition labels on these give information for the bowl without the egg, and then data with the egg in the fine print… that’s where I found that the 1g of fiber listed is actually <1g, so I counted as .5g fiber (legally, <1g is anywhere from .5-.99g, so I count at the minimum). Nothing that the God of Ketones (aka Dr. Atkins) would kick you out of ketosis for.

I think it’s okay, though it might be better to just nuke up two eggs.
https://www.incredibleegg.org/recipe/basic-microwave-scrambled-eggs/
https://www.incredibleegg.org/recipe/basic-microwave-french-omelet/

The hard part is getting over the hump to fat adapted. Once you’re there, it’s a lot easier to look the donut nazi in the eyes and call them for what they are… obesogenic fascists. My boss is a big one. We’re having a pizza party tomorrow to celebrate the turning of the fiscal year. Meh pizza. She’s always pushing cookies, donuts, and whatever on staff, and uses the “You can have one just to celebrate, right?” Like I’m gonna celebrate anything at work until I retire from this joint.

Stuff that I keep around… it’s a variety. Cheese curds, nuts (Macadamia, pecans, walnuts, almonds, marconas), some prosciutto, better cheese, sausages, and so on. But once you master your cravings with the fat adaptation (which is different than turning a pee stick colors), you find you have this stuff because you want it, not because you need a little snack to get you to lunch or past 3:30 or whatever.

Welcome to keto, and if this Ore-Ida thing is the best you can meal, and it doesn’t trigger cravings for potato chips or fries, count it against your carbs as 3.5 or whatever, and keto on.

[LeCheffre]

When we make assumptions about seed oils, we err (http://www.justcrackanegg.net/all-american-scramble):

Ingredients:

POTATOES, CHEDDAR CHEESE ([PASTEURIZED MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO (COLOR)], MODIFIED CORNSTARCH ADDED TO PREVENT CAKING, NATAMYCIN [A NATURAL MOLD INHIBITOR]); COOKED UNCURED BACON BITS - NO NITRATES OR NITRITES ADDED EXCEPT THOSE NATURALLY OCCURING IN CELERY JUICE AND SEA SALT (PORK, WATER, SEA SALT, SUGAR, CULTURED CELERY JUICE, CHERRY POWDER); CITRIC ACID.

I’m not the greatest label reader, but I don’t see any actual added oil in there.

Who knows, based on the processing, some of the potato might even be resistant starch…

[Dimplestilskin]

I find that if I have any carbs…they make me crave more carbs! It’s a slippery slope if you can avoid them then do…eventually you’ll lose interest in them but in the beginning it’s best to stay abstinent…for me anyways

[ctviggen]

I take my statement back for this product, but 99+% of modern foods have O6 oils in them. I personally think resistant starch is bunk and worse for you than real food.

[ctviggen]

By the way, I think having someone who just started keto eating potatoes is like asking a crack addict to have a tiny bit of crack. It doesn’t work, or at least it didn’t for me. When I started, I ate foods that reminded me of what I used to eat, like fake chocolate (maltitol – bad juju from that), stevia/other sweet products, etc. ALL of that made me overeat. After 5 years, I don’t eat any of that. None of it, except on rare instances, and then I go for the real thing. And I avoid having a single chip (potato chip, corn chip, etc.) because just one will make me eat the entire bag. My wife tells me I have incredible willpower, but that’s because I know where to draw the line, and I avoid crossing that line.

Potatoes (that style, anyway) for me cross that line.

[Missslucrew]

That is extremely good, if not super awesome information! I actually didn’t crave the potatoes…I haven’t even really wanted a carb (pasta, cake, cookie etc) for the last couple of days. I just found those things and thought they were a good on the go meal looking at the net carbs. In the fridge I have salami, cheeses, Powerade Zero, lots 'o waters, and other keto stuff. But, today I just threw it in the micro, like I always did, scarfed it and went on.

Again, I can’t thank you enough for looking into all that for me…I’m still such a greenhorn when it comes to this eating style and I am thirsting for knowledge on it so that one day I can just live this way and not track every little think on my Carb Manager app!

[Monurse]

@ctviggen I agree with you Bob! Why temp yourself. It’s amazing the will power I have since starting keto. I know how certain foods/drinks affect me so I just avoid them

[LeCheffre]

You will find a wide diversity of what folks think are appropriate items on a “well formulated ketogenic” diet. I am, personally, in favor of reducing processed foods, limiting omega 6 fats to the bare minimum in favor of monounsaturated fats and omega 3s. I’m also known to buy the good chickens, the pasture raised eggs, the heritage pork, and whatever beef there is. But, food quality is something that a lot of people never really need and never really reach. And some folks are a lot more militant about food quality (as I’ve been known to buy grocery store pork when it’s on deep sale, and I consume more artificial sweetener than I would like to).

When you’re starting, as you are, the single most important rule is to keep your carbs at or below your allotted daily limit. Nearly everything else, protein minimums, fictional fat macros, calorie limits, omega 3:6 balance, food quality, supplements, etc, are secondary concerns.

[juice]

Once you’re there, it’s a lot easier to look the donut nazi in the eyes and call them for what they are… obesogenic fascists. My boss is a big one.

When you’re starting, as you are, the single most important rule is to keep your carbs at or below your allotted daily limit. Nearly everything else, protein minimums, fictional fat macros, calorie limits, omega 3:6 balance, food quality, supplements, etc, are secondary concerns.

+1

[240lbfatloss]

You’re just beginning adaptation. You need to be fairly strict as far as carb consumption. After a few weeks you can have occasional carbs, say a meal a week or so, and after a couple of months you can have a carb day once or twice a week.

You should be able to lose all your excess fat naturally, so I suggest a hold on any procedures. It just takes time. Figure on around a one pound per week loss averaged over time, or around two five gallon buckets per year.

[Maulbeere]

1/4 cup of potatoes is Googleable to be 7g or carbs, but the product site info states 3g for all varieties.

Either way, if you’re aiming to keep to under 5% of your calories per day from carbs, you’re “still within your macros” as they say, (1g of carb is 4 calories) and you have no reason to beat yourself up about it.

Also, if you’re going to have one simple carb, potatoes are amazing, but go for organic - any root vegetable is designed as a storage device, so naturally also stores pesticides and herbicides used on the crop. Non-organic potatoes are treated with Glyphosphate (roundup by Monsanto) and store it in the tubers. Glyphosphase is linked to leaky gut and an increase in immune responses like food intolerance and allergies (study here). There’s lists of veggies out there that are the worst and best to eat non-organic, potatoes are top of the dirty list.

It’s a journey and it’ll take a while to find out what works for you anyway. If you want to get fat adapted, I have to agree it’ll be easier if you cut those carbs down as much as possible though. It’s always easier if you can get rid of the cravings faster.

For another easy snack idea, check out the fridge section where they keep the Lunchables - there’s usually some really nice ‘Protein packs’ that have nuts and cheese in them. Nuts still have carbs, but good fats and micronutrients too.