One More Greenwon Breathalyzer Question

#1

Hi all- I’ve seen this question asked in the numerous threads about this tester but it’s never been directly answered, that I’ve found. I get 4 readouts on this-- a % reading, a % with an extra zero, a mg/L and a mg/100ml. The first two are the ones I’m interested in. I’ve read that anything over 0.04 is a “good” reading, but is that the % reading, or the % with the extra zero. For example, my reading today is 0.02%, and 0.26 % with the extra zero. Which one is the one I should be paying the most attention to? I did get the “High-Warning” signal at this level. But it’s not a 0.04.

For comparison purposes, I have a Keto-Mojo also, and my reading this morning was 1.1. I know they don’t correlate directly.

I’m really nerdy about numbers, I feel great, don’t cheat and have lost 25 pounds in 3 months, which is amazing to me. I’m 5-1, 67 years old, and current weight is 145.

(Chris W) #2

I get the high level alarm to sound I think at or above .05 BAC otherwise I always read high, unless I knocked myself out. I use the second number which is usually double the first and less the decimal. For records I have used the second number, I don’t have anything to compare to either but it is slightly more accurate. I have learned you can cheat this so breathing in a defined manner helps me, I stop breathing at around the 50 count, and before I exhale into the device I let a small amount out, it will typically read higher when I do this. My number range from 24 to 55

#3

Darn, I guess that means my BAC% of .01-.02 still isn’t getting to the .04 level someone said indicated you were well into ketosis. I guess if that’s what I’m excreting, it explains why I’m such a slowwwww loser. Ah we, I’ll KCKO! I’ve had lots of NSV that keep me going, even when weight loss is slow.

(Chris W) #4

Most of the time it has been .03 -.04 me I seem to get the .05 when I fast or have been inactive. Acetone is very volatile it seems to me that them more or harder I am breathing the lower the level gets. I can read nill after exercise and show .04 a couple hours later.
This has been a good tool for me though, the results are more real time than the pee sticks, I was having some issues the last few weeks with a reaction and it helped me narrow the offender down.

Its also a very inconsistent reading I can change the way I breath into it and I will very the results, I followed some advice I think I saw first here to think about getting the air down in the lungs up, and moving the lungs with out exhaling breathing out a small amount as I mentioned.

(Dan Dan) #5

Yes it has in cheap breathalyzer topic

Here :smile:

#6

I admit I’m still confused. My question is still the same as this persons:

I’ve got my AT6000 and have read this whole thread but am still confused – what readout on AT6000 is everyone using? For example, I just blew this with these number rotating in sequence:

.03 (BAC %)
.32 (BAC % x 10?)
.17 (BAC % x 10 / 2?)
32 (BAC% x 100?)

It seems like BAC % x 10 is the most useful number b/c I get an extra digit readout compared to the 1st number. And the rest are just math calculations. But what number is everyone else using above??

So is the BAC number the one that reads 0.01% on my machine, or the one that reads 0.1 % with an extra small zero next to the bottom zero? Considering that my blood ketones are always between 1.0-3.0, I would think it would be the 0.1. If I’m only blowing 0.01, I’m not in nutritional ketosis, which doesn’t make sense to me, considering the comments I’ve gotten on my keto breath lol.

Yes, I know, I’m driving myself crazy and should throw away the machines and KCKO! ( But I’d still like to know…)

(Dan Dan) #7

Breath ketones are measured in ppm change the multiplier inversely if you want to use the extra digit :smile:

So You will have 0/0BAC x 100/2 and 0/00 BAC x 10/2
( the other two are not BAC look above in the square to find which )

good luck :wink:

#8

So I’m at 0.5ppm. That’s not even in ketosis, then.:frowning:

(Dan Dan) #9

please look at the link I gave you It shows you are at the beginning nutritional ketosis :smile:

#10

Dan_Dan- please take pity on a 67 year old and tell me where I’m going wrong with this!
My breathalyzer is 0.02%
0.02X100=2
2 divided by 2=1

Is my ppm 1? If so, since 2 ppm=0.5mMol/L, the start of nutritional ketosis, I’m at .25 mMol/L, or not quite in nutritional ketosis yet.

I could be well be not understanding something. f I’m not, can you please point out where I’m going wrong? Thank you! Math isn’t my strong suit, so I must be doing something wrong.

#11

Oh, wait. Have I been mixing up blood ketones and breath ketones??? Give me a hint. Maybe I’ll just stick to blood ketones and forget this thing. My blood ketones are fine and the number is quite straightforward. No BAC 0/0 versus O/00 to try and convert. The pamphlet that came with my meter says 0.02 % equals 25 ppm, which is way over what I would have expected and certainly in ketosis!

(Dan Dan) #12

You Blew 1.6 ppm earlier so your there and the number will increase in time :smiley:

Please KCKO (Keep Calm Keto On)

(Dan Dan) #13

Can you post a photo ?

#14

I can try lol. I’ve been doing keto for three months, don’t know if I mentioned that.

#15

Attempting to post a picture.

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This is from the AT6000 manual, the same unit many people have. As I said before, I know I have blood ketones, but I want to try and track how well I’m actually using them with the breathalyzer. I had a pretty high insulin level before I started(37), and I’m having it tested again next month. But wondering if my insulin is still high and interfering somewhat with my weight loss, which was only around 4 pounds last month. Of course, that month included a weeklong vacation where I did my darndest to stay on point but restaurants throw a lot of sneaky carbs into their meals.&strong text

(Jane) #16

You DO realize “4 pounds a month” equals 48 pounds in a year?

How long did it take you to get to your current weight? Was it overnight? If no, then realize it doesn’t come off overnight, either.

You are doing great. Hang in there. KCKO

#17

I’m not complaining about losing 4 pounds this month. I’ve been doing keto since January and have lost 26 pounds. I have 15-20 more to lose. My main concern is to get an idea on my current rate of fat loss and whether or not my insulin resistance is improving. As I said, I’m very insulin resistant. Because the breathalyzer supposedly indicates how much fat you’re actually burning, I hoped it would be a good tool for that. However, I’m having a hard time figuring out exactly what I should be looking for there.

I’m 67 so weight has been coming and going for quite a while lol. But now that I have a real understanding of why losing was so hard for me in the past, I want to do my best to use every tool possible to get and stay healthier.

I will definitely Keep Calm and Keto on, even if I never do learn how to interpret this meter!

(Chris W) #18

It is not going to equate to a number that you can easily pin down the benefit of this device is that it is cheap to buy and maintain. I think for you what would be more important is to see which way you trend and keep a running daily tab, if you have the ability to equate the two with a blood meter then I would do it, but you are not measuring the same things with the two. The breath meter is measuring acetone which is a byproduct of the creation of BHB which is what the blood meter is measuring.

Sine you are IR I would expect you to be lower than others, but if you are peaking out at .03 you are not much off from my normal mid range. I am also 2 months ahead of you, 20 years your junior, and not known to be IR but I was pre diabetic more or less.

(Dan Dan) #19

Awesome Thank you :smile:

I have checked the math and think I know the reason for the difference but if you could Post the Compete chart :smiley: ( I like the closeup so easy to read)

Also who you purchased from so I can research or contact them :smiley:

#20

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Tried to get the whole thing in. Bought from Amazon. Maybe they’re not supposed to be correlations?

Anyway, I do appreciate everyone’s help. I’ve been some version of low carb on and off for years, and this time I want to stay ON. The more data I have, the better I can track where I’m going wrong.:blush: