Last night was steak, halloumi, and eggs after a sunset walk on the beach. Billie and I were the only ones there, except for a small pod of surfers out on the reef. It was beautiful. Mrs. Bear was teaching Yin yoga in Margaret River a bit further south.

No Food Until Noon is a habit. Days are sunny and starting to get warmer. Breaking fast with bacon and eggs. But today will be salmon and eggs. I was out and about mulching the food forest trees. The activity is good in the fresh air and sunshine but I am building back up to fuller activity capacities.

Driving to the city tonight for one meeting tomorrow. Cold baked beef ribs are on the menu. I’ll take our rainwater from down here to drink, as city tap water tastes foul. Then back to the countryside home tomorrow afternoon. The driving is risky for cravings and stress.

@VirginiaEdie Edith, I consulted a specialist rheumatologist about my recent polyarthritis (that is manageable while on keto carnivore). They do see oxalate dumping and diagnose it. They recognise ketogenic diet as a tool for lowering inflammation in joints. Their experience with the symptoms of oxalate dumping is that it is more akin to acute gout with joint swelling and reddening and very sharply painful and sensitive. He looked over my blood tests, did a physical examination and diagnosed an immune polyarthritis secondary to the vaccination. But he did say that the immune stimulation from the vaccination likely exacerbated an underlying condition rather than primarily caused the polyarthritis.

(Karen) #298

I feel positive and not noticing the wooziness as much, get groggy still especially if I hae to listen or focus too long on one thing. Thanks for asking xx

(Karen) #299

Were they able to give you any prognosis ? Or any coping strategies?


WOW FB now you got some path that gives you some answers.

Know that eating the way you are and keeping sugar out of your system is key to healing up faster and changing these reactions…don’t go back to any icky eating to make it all worse :slight_smile: you hold the ZC course and wish you the best for a faster healing thru all this!!

-------fast post guys

beach is great but a tad cold, ugh, but ok for metal detecting. alot of trash, no spanish gold just yet :wink:

HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all those who do celebrate today.
for me it is all you can eat crab legs and sirloin steak. I will pic my plate, you all will be jealous maybe HAHA

leave Sat to come home and this tiny fast trip is going very fast, too fast :frowning: but enjoying the salt air and more.

I so wish I was FB with living just so close to the beach…ahh, one day, one day, :slight_smile:

Everyone enjoy the day and eat very well, I know I will be!!

Carnivore on strong!


@Fangs: The food sounds nice then :wink: Yeah, never trust restaurants. I don’t remember such things here, I always hated sugary sauces with meat with a passion but it’s not really a thing here. Except mayo. I always disliked mayo but if someone makes it with a ton of sugar, that’s the worst.
I looked up Bernaise sauce and it sounds nice (and it has no sugar)! I would skip most of the butter, of course just like when I made “mayo”. Pretty useless for me so never did it again but it was nice.
I can’t try it today as I already made some… Definitely not gravy but it was based on gravy recipes.

Companies apparenty can’t make dried pineapples without sugar either. The fruit is loaded with sugar and they dry it out so it will be super sugary. It has sugar and little water, it doesn’t need sugar to be sweet or having a long shelf-life… No idea what they add it… Scary.

Sweet potatoes are quite sweet, indeed. Too sweet for me now in bigger amounts (like a whole smaller one), of course :slight_smile: But it was a nice 1-2 years while I ate it occasionally (it became a common thing in Hungary not super long ago and I already did on/off keto back then)… Alvaro isn’t into it so we never eat it now.

I will make some photos soon, it’s 3pm and my satiation starts to deteriorate but I cooked my meal 1.5 hours ago. The main part of my first meal is very similar nowadays: scrambled eggs with some processed meat in it (prosciotto crudo yesterday, pig farm sausage today) and pork shoulder roast. I can’t imagine to get bored of it in the near future, it’s just perfect.

I am very determined to eat carnivore today. In the last days there were circumstances and Alvaro at home, tempting me (not actively just through eating). At least I always start with proper food and a lot of it. And I could test what happens if I eat the worst possible way I can. Nothing noticeable but it’s wasteful to massively overeat every day (I didn’t track but I obviously did that, I only not overeat when I barely eat from my own viewpoint) and my body surely isn’t the happiest but it says nothing (first. later it would scream bloody murder as it should but I couldn’t go that far if I wanted, probably). I think all the meat and my low-carb past balanced out things, I feel pretty good physically. Minus the stubborn backache.
(Sorry I still come here but it helps to mitigate the problems and remind me of what I should do. Compulsions hit hard lately and that’s bad. I want to be free and choose the most hedonistic route for me.)

I still have meat in the freezer but tomorrow we visit a town and do some shopping. Pork shoulders on sale again… Too fatty for my tiny energy need though longer term carnivore probably would help with that. Maybe not enough, I want much meat and many eggs nowadays… Oh well, my next month surely won’t be so great but afterwards things get loads better and easier. Of course I do whatever I can until then too, I just consider it impossible to stay on carnivore for long at a time. After Christmas it will drastically change.

Alvaro still don’t have any idea if he has Covid. It matters little, actually he will go to work on Monday as enough time passed. Oh but it matters, if he is positive, we won’t go to goose watching and shopping. I didn’t even think about much of the possibility… And then they will test me too, probably so I am rooting for it not to be the case. But it’s not a big deal, Alvaro says who had 2 different tests a few days ago, one is nothing, the other was worse but pretty much survivable even for me, it seems.


Are insects allowed on a carnivore diet? Or only meat?

(Edith) #303

Insects are part of the animalia kingdom, so I would think so.

(Linda ) #304

Happy Thanksgiving to those of us who celebrate it prime rib is the main course and picanha as first course with mushroomsauce.

I made hubby keto pecan pieces favso he is happy

(Robin) #305

Yum, can’t beat prime rib. Happy Thaksgiving!

(Vic) #306

(Karen) #307

50 stair runs this morning and brunch at 1045hs. Think it was early because I was cold and when I’m cold I’m hungry. Heating doesn’t go on till 1st Dec so only a few more days to go. Temperature is dropping fast though! Feeling it more so as we have been blessed with such a mild November.

Brunch was 1 large beef burger and 3 rashers of bacon.

Dinner was rump steak and 4 rashers of bacon followed by cheese and some goats cheese and a bit of French cheese too lol.

Popped to my daughters later this afternoon, first car drive since my stroke on 12th Oct. Havent missed driving that much but think I will be glad I’m driving now the colder days are setting in.

(Robin) #308

It seems to me that you are doing remarkable for having had a stroke so recently.

(Karen) #309

Thank you I feel very fortunate xx


I am horrified; it’s bloody freezing! It’s literally been 0C here this morning.

Is the heating controlled elsewhere, or is it just a rule you have? I have to admit, I never follow date rules (our office is dictated by a date). I always set mine by temperature; if it’s cold enough to kick in, it’s cold enough for it to be on.


I second being amazed how well you have come thru all this :slight_smile: So happy you are doing so well K!

@Azi, prime rib, no one can ever go wrong iwth that, bet it was YUM!

yes insects are fine. just don’t eat anything covered in chocolate LOL

----------So here is my all you can eat crab legs. The sirloin steak on top was chewy, not a fan but those peel/eat shrimp were out of this world delish. Yes, I had a second plate of crab and shrimp. I did try a bite of the turkey they offered, not a fan, so bland ya know. People were eating like vultures, and I was one of them HAHA Wiping out the stuffing, the marshmellow yams, all the carb sides were just attacked. Not me. I was up and done getting my plates so fast not getting into that crowd of carb lovers LOL


raining now. rain guy said should move out by noon. Hope so :slight_smile:

Carnivore strong guys…our month is winding down, we holiday celebrators got thru a holiday in fine form and the ol’ Xmas season is coming at us.

(Edith) #312

Reminds me of when my daughters had concussions. The same thing would happen. I’m glad to hear you can notice improvement. That must be heartening, especially since it’s only been a month.


OMAD today. 400g mix of roast beef and roast lamb. 2 x drowoers soft biltong sausage. A bit too spicy. Driving to and from the city for meetings. Listening to low carb podcasts. 12 hours driving this week.

@Karen18 Specialist advice was to have a revisit in January. Take painkillers, if joints hurt. Do the complementary stuff (like keto), if I think it helps. Get another vaccine but have some cortisone on hand for any flare up for 0 to 14 days after. Even though I organised special (notifiable to the government) serology blood tests that show I have virus antibodies/ immunity. It did come down to matching symptoms to medications with a slight acknowledgment of lifestyle measures.

(Edith) #314

That’s pretty good. I really didn’t think doctors knew anything about oxalates.

Have they or you heard about other people having reactions to the vaccine similar to you? I hadn’t heard of that, but I am slightly conspiratorial in my thinking where the vaccines are concerned. I got it and I’m glad, because I didn’t want to be the vector of death for my elderly, decrepit parents, but I don’t think “they” are completely forthcoming with all the possible side effects.

(Karen) #315

@Septimius lol I am a bit of a rigid bugger when it comes to holding out… I managed to Dec 1st last year and it got colder sooner than this year. I know once I turn the heating on then it will be on till spring! I live alone so I have no one but myself to worry about being cold or being wrapped in layer upon layer with a hot water bottle and blanket and I am always warm in bed in fact I am still covers on covers off throughout the night lol. We may have snow tomorrow its been forecast.

@Fangs that plate of surf n turf looks so yummy, just my kind of food! Mmmmm. Delish!

Only one little stair run this morning as I decided to get my bath and sort out ready to go meet my work colleagues for a cuppa. I was quite anxious about it and felt out of my comfort zone but was picked up and taken there and it was really nice. Bit over whelming as they were all so concerned but I just about managed to keep my emotions under wraps.

Returned home on the bus and got a bit of fresh air which was good. The cafe was a bit noisy and my head was getting the gross!

Brunch about 1pm was beef burger and bacon and some cheese.

Daughter then picked me up and took me to hospital to get the 24hr tape fitted. Cant see me sleeping well with it on … the monitor is clipped to my pants lol.

Dinner was rump steak and cheddar.


As long as you’re ok! You’re hardier than I am.

I’m ok outside in a t-shirt and stuff for short periods of time, but working from home and being sat in the same place all day…it’s as if the cold seeps into the bricks. It’s more the damp, I think.

It’s dipped below zero here tonight, but it’s forecasting -10C over the weekend. Pop it on if it does the same where you are.