Non Scale Annoyance

(astrahsburg) #1

So…I learned today that if you get stung by a wasp a couple times and the poison ends up getting walled off in your fat, and you later burn through said fat, you get to react to those @#$!@ sting sites again :slight_smile:

(Derek I. Batting) #2

Wow! I just learned a thing. Crazy.

(Jeff) #3

That’s remarkable. Glad your body is cleaning house!

(astrahsburg) #4

It makes me wonder about something else. If we replace our stored fat on a low carb diet, with fat that is essentially low carb, does that mean when we process that fat later on our blood sugar level should also be lower at that time? (I read the other day that even though we are not eating carbs, glucose is still coming out of our stored fat when we are in ketosis)

(Ross Daniel) #5

Wow, that is gnarly!

This reminds me of an episode of House. They had a patient who was experiencing strange symptoms (no, it was not lupus) after being in the hospital for something minor. They had complications and had to be hospitalized for a while. I don’t remember all of the specifics of the episode, but I do remember they finally figured out it was some poisons built up in the patients fat cells that were essentially coming back with a vengeance. The funny part was, they showed the patient losing a lot of weight but they were eating carb laden hospital food, so I know it had to have been made up… :smile:

(AnnaLeeThal) #6

Holy shit this is crazy.

#7

Makes sense. Like cleaning out a closet full of crap you haven’t seen for 20 years. The junk emerges once again.

(ketohealthclub) #8

I don’t see how there’s such a thing as low carb fat. Fat is fat. It sounds like you are asking if burning off stored fat and regaining fat on a healthy way of eating is better for you. Is that right? I don’t plan to replace my fat- once it’s gone: bye bye! Glucose is always produced in your body via gluconeogenesis. It can be generated from protein and fat.

(Guardian of the bacon) #9

That’s not a pleasant thought. I was a propane service guy for a few years and wasps love to build nests under the tank covers. I’ve had a lot of stings over the years.

(ketohealthclub) #10

What do you think about fat soluble vitamins becoming bioavailable again?

(Sarah Barnbrook) #11

Ouch!

(astrahsburg) #12

in regards to fat soluble vitamins… From what I’ve read there are definitely vitamins in our fat stores, and that kinda leads to my curiosity. If vitamins are stored there, what else is there. More specificly, does the difference in what we eat to produce the stored fat affect the glycemic affect we get when our bodies go back and metabolize that stored fat.

More specifically, these wasp stings I’m feeling right now happened last June when I was 3-4 months into keto. Even though I spend most of my day burning fat, according to these itching stings, apparently I have stored some fat since getting those stings.

#13

I did a 33 day fast, drank water, tea and coffee. Not much else other than a couple of multivitamins per week and maybe a cup of broth once per two weeks.

I could definitely tell that my body was going through autophagy and removing toxins. I actually saw my tongue change colours. I would have a pain or heat sensation concentrated in one spot of my body for a bit, then it would go away a few hours later. I got a lot of pimples on my legs and arms…and I’m the type of person who has not had acne or pimples problems through life. So, it was really something odd for me to see. My guess is that the autophagy was going at it so hard that the toxins or whatever the byproducts were had been exiting through my skin as well?

All this may sound a bit scary, but I’m really glad I did it. All that shit is gone now…good riddance…great! And after the fast, I felt really fantastic. My skin cleared up and smooth like a baby’s butt!

#14

I saw this during a 7 day fast. I had a terrible taste in my mouth that was beyond keto-breath. Looking in the mirror, my tongue had a yellow residue on it… which I scrubbed off, only to have it return again the next morning.

#15

I think “yes” if you have extra ones in there that couldn’t be accessed with high insulin levels on SAD. I’ve also heard numerous assertions that hormones like estrogen will be released in noticeable amounts during rapid fat loss.

(Jenn W) #16

I know this pain!! Went to check my propane tank without looking first! Running from a swarm of wasps is great exercise at least!

(Stickin' with mammoth) #17

The release of stuff stored in the fat cells would explain a lot of my bizarre symptoms, lately. (Yes, I’ve eliminated all other possibilities.) I’m pretty sure I’m slowing down weight loss on some subconscious level in order to weather the storms. Dang it, I got nailed bad by wasps a few years back, too. (sigh) Preview of coming attractions, I guess.

I’m meditating on the idea that emotions are also stored in the body and when certain bodily areas are changed, that stuff gets triggered and (ideally) released. I’d be hard-pressed to come up with anything more emotionally charged than being sick and overweight for the last twenty years. Not even that traumatic brain injury. (pretends to have dramatic eye twitch)

#18

Interesting perspective. Are you saying that bad memories stored in the layers of fat coming to surface causes you to re-live traumatic or uncomfortable events?

(Stickin' with mammoth) #19

Yes, I think intense emotions have the power to affect our bodies in ways we are only beginning to understand. Cellular memory exists biochemically but there are levels and fields of science we haven’t even discovered yet. (On second thought, cross out “discovered” and write in “accepted.”)

At the very least, there are probably hormonal fluctuations locked up in adipose tissue and maybe bone, too. I’ll bet your body records which way you were pointing back then the same way Earth’s magma lines up with the magnetic poles when it cools. You just gotta learn to read the signs.

I keep my mind open and my eyes peeled. I’ve never regretted it, it’s how I found keto.

#20

Not sure I can bring myself to believe that fat cells have the ability to store memories, but I’m willing to listen and learn to evidence that can prove otherwise. I tend to be a bit of a skeptical realist.