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carnivore
zero-carb-carnivore
(Jamie Henry Brown) #1

I figured I’d introduce myself to this lovely forum.

Hey I’m Jamie and I’ve been carnivore for nearing four years now.

Started knowing absolutely nothing about carnivore.

Started to follow keto back in late 2020 and discovered I was mostly eating meat anyway.

Well apart from the fake pizzas I made using almond flour(1000x better healthwise than standard pizza though!) and copious amounts of seed oil mayonnaise.

I googled if you can eat an all meat diet and discovered carnivore.

I’ve been carnivore since new year’s Day 2021.

Since then I’ve reversed pretty much all my diseases like anxiety, depression, asthma etc.

I had all the usual questions like what about vitamin C etc which I found out by watching carnivore influencers such as Bart Kay and Ken Berry.

Now I’m on a mission to spread the word about how healing this way of eating is.

It is after all our proper human diet.

Nice to meat you :wink: :heart::cut_of_meat:

  • Jamie Henry Brown.

For me, a ketogenic diet is a nice stepping stone to carnivore but I understand some people love to stay keto and that’s perfectly fine and 100x times healthier than the standard slop diet.

(Robin) #2

Welcome! Glad you found us and shared your testimonial. you’re in good company here.

#3

Welcome! Wow, you are a veteran! I couldn’t live on meat myself, meat is about third (or maybe half, depends on how we define it) of my food even on my strictest carnivore days! I probably could do it better if I could have some serious variety… But why to give up my perfectly fine other options? :smiley: I already did such a huge change, I started with vegetarian keto (it wasn’t bad but something much closer to carnivore is loads better for me personally).

It’s quite individual what is healthy though it’s clear in some cases (table sugar isn’t good for anyone. or excessively eating anything). There is a thing as a really healthy high-carb diet too, maybe not for me but for some others who handle carbs very well but gets unwell and overeat on low-carb. It’s amazing how differently human bodies can work but this is life.

IDK if you like to talk about your diet remotely as much as I do but I ask: what meats do you eat? Do you need variety or you belong to the group who just eat a steak or two when hungry and it never gets old? Do you only eat meat from the beginning? Out of necessity or taste? And/or whatever you want to share, I am curious about other people’s diets especially if they are carnivores.

Welcome again! This forum is a tad slow lately especially the carnivore thread, it was so nice and lively but times change.

(Joey) #4

@jamiehenrybrown Welcome to the forum! Great to hear of your successes with carnivore.

Personally, I’ve been carb-restricted since mid-2019 but seem to be gravitating to less salads and plant products and more to meat + dairy. Perhaps it’s my body’s way of leading me to where you’ve found yourself. :vulcan_salute:

(Jamie Henry Brown) #5

I love talking about keto/carnivore.
On non-workout-days, these days I usually eat 500g of beef mince meat with 3 eggs. When I workout my appetite increases so I’ll end up having 750g~ of beef mince meat with 3-6 eggs.

I’ll have variety for sure but the variation is a different kind of mince usually. i.e Lamb mince meat. I’ll sometimes add non-ruminant meat like pork/chicken. Say I’ll have 500g chicken mince with added tallow/butter since it is usually quite lean by itself.

I would have steaks every day If I could afford them. :joy:

Yeah I essentially just dropped the keto stuff like the veggies. I mean I wasn’t eating much of them anyway. I was having way more chicken in the beginning though like whole chickens.

I’d say taste because at first I was thinking “well, meat tastes the best anyway and those greens I hate eating soo guess I’ll stick to that”. Keto pretty much gave me more energy and honestly I found learning more about how keto works fascinated me. It was like a natural progression for me Standard diet -> keto -> carnivore.

One thing I did very quickly after starting keto was get rid off the weighing scale as I kept checking it every day and worried that the scale kept going up. That could be denser bones and/or stronger muscles etc.

I love learning about how ketogenic and carnivore ways of eating work. Processes like the Randle Cycle, Kreb cycle, insulin:glucagon ratio etc. It’s interesting stuff.

Thanks. I’ll try to make it more active, don’t worry ;).

#6

Yay, answers :smiley: Thanks!
Oh I hated most greens even as a vegetarian (salads too but I loved vegs, raw or fried or cooked into oblivion) so I just didn’t eat them :slight_smile: Thankfully we don’t need to eat everything even on a somewhat restricted diet. In the last days, I keep finding the thing where kids are totally forced/tricked/manipulated/etc. into eating broccoli. That unpopular veg MUST. Be. Eaten, apparently. Mom never gave me any and why would that have been a problem, seriously?! (Not eating it, I mean. Giving it to me definitely would have been a problem and I hated green leaves way more. She tried to feed me spinach once but it wasn’t a success so she never tried again.) People are weird, I always say. Even when well-meaning. Poor kids. And poor moms who tries so hard using complicated methods to put specific vegs into the kids…

I tried out carnivore when I suddenly lost interest in vegs (after spending a lot of time in carnivore threads on this forum. carnivores here are quite wonderful and very patient, I never was chased away) and I never could go too far for too long again (it was like going low-carb just less sustainable. low-carb was the easiest thing ever). My body loves it. I am pretty sure it wouldn’t complain if I never ate any plants but alas, I have other parts and circumstances… Carbs don’t matter as much for me, just net plant carbs, apparently. Plenty of lactose doesn’t mess me up (it’s mostly mental but I am hungrier too if I consume a bigger amount of plant carbs) but too much vegs and nuts do. I never got significant negative symptoms, only positive ones so I am quite enthusiastic about carnivore(ish) from the start.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #7

I try to do this in London UK! though most people just think I’m an oddball. London is full of crazy people I guess

(Megan) #8

Welcome to the forum, nice to meat you too! Good luck with your mission. I’m assuming you’re prepared for a lot of push-back?

(Alec) #9

It’s interesting… when I explain carnivore to people who’ve never heard about it before they are very curious, almost disbelieving (“what, you mean no fruits and veg???”). I have yet to have anyone tell me to my face that I am mad and dangerous and killing myself. They might be thinking it, but they tend to be more asking questions than pushing back.

I know that some people I have talked to have gone to explore a bit and have come back and said to me that although they didn’t go carni, they are cutting down on their carbs with the research they have done. Small steps…

I wonder what the world looks like with everyone on a proper human diet???

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #10

I know what you mean, although every now and then I prefer ground beef for a meal. I found that my cravings for carbohydrates are mostly resistible on carnivore, and I don’t miss the “variety” because meat is very satisfying, especially the meat of ruminants.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #11

I’d like to believe it would be a lot saner and a lot healthier. :cut_of_meat:

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #12

Your lucky. I have. Some people seem to get comfort in believing everything in the mainstream … which is funny because it’s often people with medical experience that are less dismissive.
It’s a shame those same people are unable to recommend what they suspect to be true.

#13

I don’t know people so I don’t know what their reaction would be but almost everyone I ever met were so insanely far from carnivore or any even remotely health-conscious diet (I mean, there were okay points but they still ate “everything” including lots of sugar) that I wouldn’t even breach the topic unless I just wanted to talk about my diet and while I like to do that, not with just anyone. And now? The gap is just too huge. My relative with diabetes only stopped eating sugar all the time when the doctor said she should have. She still eats sugar and bakes with sugar though and it won’t ever change I am pretty sure. And I am there, mostly avoiding vegs because they have too much sugar… People wouldn’t understand. (I eat plenty of sugar too - plenty from my viewpoint… surely very many people would think I should eat 10 times as much at least - but still, my attitude and expectation about normal food is closer to carnivores. Food is some more or less fatty protein to me.)