wow the posts were rolling in the thread 
so many good posts to read.
see when ever I tried to do ‘any solid tweaking’ and trying to control in any way zc I failed fast. My best approach for me was just eat what I want when I want, as much as I want. I let the body repaired direct me. Key being I listened to it. As with in year 3 of carnivore I got to where I wanted more lean meats. Simply ate more lean on those days but I never could go more than, say 2 or 3 days cause then boom, the body was super yelling for a honking ribeye and fatty meats.
I found all my improvement and weight loss benefits and more in just letting each day be what I wanted to eat. Some days I ate way lean. Some days I would inhale a lb. of bacon early in the AM cause I needed it. Then the rest of the day would be lean cause I had no draw to fatty meat. Other days all I wanted was fatty meats. But I never gained a lb. Ever. Only time I gained was when I started and it was like 8-10 lbs which I dumped reasonably quickly much to my relief
It took alot of years to ‘find my eating level’ and how best I do. Now it seems my ‘best right now’ is eat bigger fatty heavy meat first meal, which then satisfies and second meal can be whatever I want. Alot of times in the old days it would be another honking big ol’ steak but I moved out of the need for 2 big fatty beef cuts. Second meal becomes shrimp and chicken or can of tuna and maybe 2 smaller cheeseburger patties and total satisfaction.
I ‘vaguely and loosely’ tried pmsf and pkd and whatever else ‘the zc community’ was blabbing about and every time extremely fast I ‘got off balance’ incredibly quick and would almost put my zc lifestyle in jeopardy. I had to stop doing anything with manipulation and control to any zc eating. I had to ‘eat what the body was telling me’ and that is how I shined on this lifestyle.
I don’t get jumbled as much as I did in years before. I feel like I can easily estimate exactly what my body wants to eat the night before. I can ‘feel my 2 meal’ food intake at the end of the day, a few hrs after eating that 2nd meal I can safely say, hmmm, I am feeling a bit hungry but of course I don’t eat, not that hungry to eat ya know and then I make sure I defrost a big steak for next first meal. I can satisfy my hunger as I need cause I feel like my body has leveled me out to follow its wants and patterns.
I also can tell the night before if I go to bed extremely feeling satiated and not wanting anything, not a twinge of hunger at all, I can roughly guess I might be starting my day with some pork or maybe chicken. I just don’t require big heavy dense fatty meat for first intake.
Alot of zc’ers fall into 1-2 maybe 3 basic food. big read meat. pork. maybe add in some seafood/eggs into their day. See I eat ALL I love. I eat chicken. I eat some dairy with my foods. I definitely do surf and turf meals. I eat alot of pork. I still eat a lb. of bacon when I want it. Don’t get me wrong, I used to eat a ribeye in the morning, a ribeye in the evening. Cause that is what the body required. Now I fall into eating what I want for that meal and I can kinda predict easily the day before which way I will be eating. surf and turf. just a chicken day with a lb. of bacon to start. big ol’ steak first meal, second meal will be whatever up for grabs
It is interesting watching everyone who is not ‘new’ but into year 2 or 3 now and how they are needing to change it up. I never had that. I just followed the basic lines of zc. Eat all ya need. All you want, and yes my menu is very varied zc still. I did not fall into 2 beef meals per day like many. I did for a while and then my body directed me off that eating mostly. If it is zc and I like it still, darn right I eat it only when the body is asking for it.
I got cans of sardines in the pantry. Haven’t wanted any. But I know when I wake up and think, I need a can of sardines, darn right I will eat one, til then I don’t want one
I think everyone will find themselves on zc as they need. There is tons of ways to manipulate zc and yes, I believe one might be able to stagger into some control and change their eating patterns a bit and also do so much better with good results. But for me I failed in the sustainability of doing just that. I had that brain set…if I am eating ONLY zc and I dumped all friggin’ food categories from my life but meat/seafood fish and fowl and luckily for me can eat some cheese too…I can’t then control it down any further. I go into feelings of deprivation and loss of my eating freedom I have on zc as it gave that to me. Yea, heading into yr 6 for me and I can’t monkey on zc with manipulations. I ain’t got it in me to function that way on this lifestyle but more power to those who can and for those who need it.
OK guys this is about me and how I had to roll thru it all to suit me.
Not saying what any one else is doing is off in any way. We all walk the walk. My walk was get out of my own way and follow my own eating thru body signals as it directed and just eat. I had to keep zc as a free to eat, don’t need to manipulate in any way plan or my brain would explode HAHA But I also never had weight gain since the few lbs when I started so I never had to fight that battle in zc ever. I think that is one of the biggest reasons I held zc and did well on it. I never ever gained any weight on no matter how much I ate per day.
So everyone roll as ya need. Keep finding yourself on how this lifestyle will suit ya and good vibes for all moving forward as needed!!
------------------------SO last night I was so hungry around 9 at night I ate 3 hot dogs. What? yea LOL too late to cook up anything, didn’t wanna bother but wanted food. OK it was mediocre and not satisfying but it was enough Reason I figure was I ate my chicken breasts but did not bother to make that alfredo sauce. So it probably was not enough, even tho I did fry the breasts up in alot of butter and soaked that up on the chicken. but most of us know, chicken sometimes never can hold us or some days it does if the right fat is included? I don’t know for me but it is how the day went down
So I took out a nice Tbone steak for this morning as first meal. Second thinking some thin cut pork chops.
I am needing a good freezer refill. No good sales around. So off to check a few stores in my area and even if I have to drive a bit further I might do just that to load up a bit. I see a lower freezer and I start to get nervous LOL
zc strong all
cool pic on it tho!
