New(ish) and Now Struggling


#162

No I said moderate protein. I agree with people that have commented already and the dudes that you should scale protein to lean body mass.

and TBH I am beginning to think you are on a wind up. You are not reading what I said at all. That’s cool. Do as you will but I have spent enough time on this. Actually read what I and the others have said and then do or don’t act on any advice given. I really don;t know what to make of you or this thread any more.


(eat more) #163

i never said psychosomatic
i said you weren’t eating enough based on the information you provided, the fact that you’re hungry, not fat adapted, and eating less than a 130lb female proves that.

i never said that i didn’t LIKE r/keto…i said that r/keto is deficit, calorie, scale obsessed which has nothing to do with liking it has to do with setting a person up for failure versus success

my first few weeks were reading r/keto and in my being i knew the advice didn’t sound right…just trying to same you some trouble

you posted asking for help being hungry but deny, argue, don’t like, or can’t do the things that are proven here

selective reading is a waste of everyone’s time…the recommendation for the podcast was to start at episode one…not listen to one episode

there’s like a kazilkion posts on this forum, authors with blogs and websites were recommended, etc etc etc

what anyone but me does or doesn’t eat is not my concern but when ppl ask for advice or help my nature is to help…the recipient has to want it and put in equal or greater effort…


#164

I’m the psychosomatic one!

or at least read what you actually write!


(Martin Arnold) #165

Sorry I missed where you said moderate protein.

There’s no need to assume i’m winding you up, just because I misread you. Why is everyone so determined to assume things like this? It’s ridiculous. I just misread your post.


#166

It was just bizarre that I wrote a long post with virtually no mention of protein yet you took “eating as much protein as you want” as the message from it.

More to do with the trend throughout this post not one thing. I’m sorry but you don;t really bother reading what people say, you get super defensive and you just don’t seem open to trying anything really that people suggest. It is all just a bit odd. Anyway, I would read back over what everyone has said if I were you and then draw up a plan of attack or two or three and go from there. I wish you luck in getting this sorted.


(Martin Arnold) #167

I never claimed you’d said psychosomatic, you quoted me responding to Daisy and then chewed me out for it. All I had said was that I coudln’t see how that claim could be validated. Why is that something to get upset about? I’m not dismissing and have repeatedly told you that I will listen to whatever anyone says. Why does that necessitate you force a plate of shit down my throat? I’ve not been rude to you nor anyone else here, btu this constant attitude that I’m deliberately here to cause trouble is becoming quite offensive.

Now I would like to have a civilised productive discussion so can we please just stick to the topic. I’m not trying to be rude but i’m finding all these constant accusations pretty frustrating.

I appreciate that you are trying to help. But you have to understand that I don’t know whether what you say is any more or less valid than what someone says on reddit. I don’t know. That’s the problem.

I don’t know what you mean by selective reading. There are thousands of articles, hours of youtube clips and discussions. I cannot possibly read them all or follow them all. If someone suggests taht the podcast here discusses my particular issue then of course I’m interested. All i asked for was that someone tell me which episode out of the 50 or so that exist. Is that so unreasonable? That doesn’t mean I don’t want or intend to listen to any others either. You said it yourself, there’s a kazilion posts, you can’t expect me to wade through all of them, certainly not in any meaningful stretch of time. So if there is something that pertains directly to this issue then, please, just tell me what it is and I’ll go read it.

Is that so unreasonable?


(Martin Arnold) #168

Is this really necessary?

I have read everything that has been said; misreading something is not ignoring it. Nor is it an attempt to insult or troll you. I’m sorry if you can’t accept that, can we please get back to the discussion all of this is becoming intensely frustrating. I am not a troll and i really find it offensive being accused of that because it just shuts down discussion.


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #169

This isn’t reddit.
You are now officially trolling.

This is a warning @Martin_Arnold

If you have language barriers or emotional issues or comprehension problems, I empathize.
Time to stop taking up everyone’s time and go do some work. I’d flag your entire post if that were possible. At this point I’m about to lock it. And may flag some of your repetitive responses that are a form of trolling as you are not heeding any help whatsoever.

Maybe you enjoy the attention. This is a poor place to elicit it. I have had several complaints.

I would advise you not to respond to this comment and move on.


(Lauren Casapulla) #170

I’ll post the link again that indicates protein is not a problem according to research, although the jury is still out.


(Lauren Casapulla) #171

(Michelle) #172

With all due respect, you mentioned you have been on this diet for about 5 weeks. To me, that’s more than enough time to do research into Keto way of eating. I know that I did 2 months of research, spoke to a ton of people, subscribed to 5 keto podcasts before I even got started on this.
Eat when you are hungry, stop when you are full.
Keep carbs to 20g or under
Eat fat to satiety

If eating too much fat grosses you out, or you continue to eat fat until you just never get full, then I will say it again - don’t try to get into ketosis. This is probably not for you. Just do low carb and find a happy medium of how you like to eat that also reaches your goals. I just don’t think there is any more advice anyone can give you.


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #173

I’m locking this. Too many complaints.
This is trolling in a clever form.


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) closed #174