New guy here, finally in ketosis


(Hugh Walter Jennings) #1

Hello all, I finished my first true fast of 36 hours yesterday morning and posted here

One of our members advised me to post a link to it here in order to possibly get more replies.

Anyohow I’m looking forward to learning about my new dive into ketosis. Thanks for having me !


(Cathy) #2

I don’t know the solution to losing abdominal fat or if there even is a solution. For some people, it seems it is permanent. If you just thumb through Gary Taubes’ book Why We Get Fat, he uses photos of individuals that have fat accumulation in specific areas of their bodies. The other parts are thin (normal looking). Why this happens in some must be genetic. I theorize that epigenetics can do this to a person over time. Mid section fat also happens to be in the area of the pancreas and perhaps excess insulin excretion is the driving factor in that area of the body… otherwise, I have no clue.

BTW, congrats on your successes and welcome to the forum!!!


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #3

The visceral fat should be shed quite quickly after cutting out sugar from the diet. A pilot study on obese children, in which only sugar was removed from their diet, showed improvements in visceral fat and in liver enzymes within ten days.

The sub-cutaneous fat is harder to lose, but the good news is that it is neutral for health. It is entirely possible to have subcutaneous fat and still be perfectly healthy. There is even a medical term for this state, “metabolically healthy obese” (MHO). About 20% of obese people are MHO.

The contrast is TOFI (“thin on the outside, fat on the inside”), where their fat is visceral and doesn’t show. Their lack of metabolic health often goes unrecognized, because they look thin. It often comes as a real shock when they are diagnosed with liver disease, diabetes, or cardiovascular disease.


(Hugh Walter Jennings) #4

Thanks for taking time to reply.

I think I’ll be okay with the abdominal area fat. I went from size 48 pants to 30 or 32 depending on the brand. My size 30 jeans were a tad tight Monday. Tried the same pair this morning and they are noticably looser. We’ll see.

I forgot to measure my waist before my fast.


(Werner) #5

Hey, I’ve heard getting to bed before midnight and only eating during daylight/ OMAD earlier in the day seems to be helpful for some people with stubborn abdominal fat.


(Bob M) #6

This is about visceral fat and I thought it was interesting:

He recommends sprinting and also 3 day fasts followed by 4 days of feasting.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #7

Don’t forget that your body composition can change, even when your weight does not. You can get thinner by shedding fat and gaining muscle, since muscle is a lot denser and therefore takes up less space.

[Edited to fix mis-spelling]


(KM) #8

Yes. This. “Thinner” can be a number on a scale, but objectively it’s your volume, better measured by clothes or a tape measure. Truly it’s composition, not raw poundage.


(Hugh Walter Jennings) #9

I may try sprints on my bike but the last time I tried jogging a couple of months ago my body told me to quit with the jarring business lol.

Plus, I was having knee pain when I started my initial health kick to lose weight I looked into inflammation fighting foods. I focused on my omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio and not long after my knee pain went away. Whether it was the omega-3s I was loading up on or the weight loss I can’t say but I’m just glad the pain is gone.


(Bob M) #10

Sprints on a bike is a great idea.

I tried sprints (months/years?) ago by running in our yard. Good idea because it’s grass; bad idea because it’s not level. Stopped that after maybe 2 times.


(Hugh Walter Jennings) #11

I’m going to try it tomorrow before work. Been a little too hot the past few days. But Fall weather is forecast all next week. We have a nice public park, a large hill, with various grades on the road that goes around the base of the hill.

I’m a fair weather cyclist for the most part.


(Hugh Walter Jennings) #12

Got a DEXA scan this morning. Bone density is normal for my age but barely. I’ll take it.

Visceral fat is 2.11 lbs. I’ll see if I can get it down to about a pound or less.

Got lucky and got a doctor’s appointment today for blood work. I want to make sure keto hasn’t thrown my blood work out of whack. Results should post around midnight or a little before.

He ordered a vitamin D count/level (whatever the proper term is). Only other time I had my vitamin d check was about 7 years ago and it was in the middle of the normal range. That was before I started taking vitamin D3 supplements. We’ll see.

I’m 22 hours into my second fast as I type. Ketones had stopped showing up on my urine strips but I just checked a few minutes ago and they’re showing trace again. If my blood sugar is not too low at bedtime around 10:00 p.m. I’ll just go ahead and wait till morning to break my fast around the 36-hour mark like I did the first time.