If you have Netflix, you should watch, very interesting.
Doctors, farmers, chefs and others weigh in on the controversial ketogenic diet and its potential to eradicate common illnesses.
If you have Netflix, you should watch, very interesting.
Doctors, farmers, chefs and others weigh in on the controversial ketogenic diet and its potential to eradicate common illnesses.
I was channel surfing last July 4th holiday and thought âwell this looks interestingâ. I had never heard of keto at that point. Hundreds of videos, a dozen books read I have been keto since July 10th 2018. The Magic Pill is what started it all.
The worm definitely turned when I saw it too. The mango, bananas and star fruit in the poster confuse my keto brainâŚ
I should really watch this, after hearing about it so often on the forums here. Thanks for the reminder.
Here we go again, sigh.
I watched it a couple of times last year. I enjoyed it. I may not agree with or practice everything in there but I can definitely respect whatâs going on.
Maybe people shouldnât look for miracles but more than a few of us have gotten them. We got to live when otherwise we may not have. Health concerns that were problematic improved. Health happened. Maybe thatâs not a âmiracleâ to some people. It was to me.
Will it work for everyone? Probably not. But it does work for an awful lot of us.
I watched that for the first time last month. Definitely worth the time and few bucks to watch.
Does anyone have any input on âFastingâ?
This one is a freebie on Prime, so I guess Iâm more interested in whether or not itâs worth the time.
I understand where youâre coming from. I donât for a moment begrudge anyoneâs subjective feelings about something. This may seem trivial (and IS embarrassing!) but to anyone who has endured it as long as I did (70 years!) will understand just how non-trivial it really is. For all my life eating SAD I had excessive flatulence. Not simply your average, occasional fart, but relentless and virtually never-ending, always uncomfortable and often painful. Within a couple weeks of starting keto, it was over! Gone!
I had no expectation about that. It took me completely by surprise. It seemed like a miracle. But it wasnât. I had stopped putting insufficiently chewed fermentable materials into my gut where they could be fermented into CO2 and sulfur/hydrogen dioxide. And had been all my life until keto.
I see the problem describing things as metaphorical âmiraclesâ or âmagicâ , even facetiously, is that we all experience things differently. A whole lot of people take things far more literally than ever intended. When their subjective experience doesnât match their unrealistic expectations, they feel cheated, frustrated and maybe angry. Then conclude keto is hooey and give up.
Sure, weâre not responsible for how others react to or misinterpret what we say. And we all have the right to say what we please any way we please, without violating the forum TOS. But Iâd like to think that whatever I post encourages realistic expectations.
Not sure if I get this. I guess you are referring to the word âmagicâ in the title. If you have ever watched it the documentary it looks in depth at how the change in diet of the aboriginal population made them sick. It is not making a case for a magic diet, rapid weight loss plan ect.
I watched it and the statement at the beginning I will never forget âWhy can every animal regulate is body weight except man and any animal cared for by manâ.
For every you and I and whoever else posting on this forum, there will be a dozen or more who see the title and donât bother to watch it. Many more who watch the first few minutes wonât understand and/or get bored by it then click on to something more entertaining. Many/most will go away thinking that keto is another âmagic dietâ thatâs going to make weight loss easy, fast and effortless. If and when they find out it doesnât, they search for the next âmagic pillâ. Thatâs all. Titles are important because in the long run thatâs all many people remember.
@Rclause Stop! Please! Youâre killing me! Absolutely right: I can see them now at their local Walmart asking for the magic keto pill. The one you take once a week because it works so well!
And these are the people that buy weight loss pills like âIf weight loss is too dramatic take one pill every other dayâ
Itâs just a name⌠I honestly always took it as a play on the words, or an Oxymoron of sorts, being that the actual fact is there is ânoâ Magic Pill. - But they could have called it anything else they chose, but folks still need to choose whether to watch it or not. And If folks only judge a movie/documentary/etc. by itâs title alone, guess thereâs always re-runs.
Either way, it was actually the documentary I watched that introduced me to Keto.
When I first joined this site I had been successfully following a Keto WOL for about 10 months.
One time, after a âscare storyâ in the Daily Mail (donât judge me! It wasnât my paper!) I asked a naive questionâŚIf everyone followed a keto diet would we be able to sustain the planet?!
Phew! Got quite a reaction and I learnt a lot! But the best thing was being directed to this film and the explanation of our ecosystem and how crops are damaging our soil whilst proper cattle rearing sustains it. It was a real lightbulb moment (yes another one!) for me and I have done some further reading.
Magic or NSV? Truthfully, being able to do a night shift without farting my way round the hospital and coming home a size larger than I was when I started my shift sure does feel like a miracle to me!
Hi Michael, No argument with what youâre saying. And maybe I seemed a little more pointed in my earlier post than I intended. Didnât really mean it that way although it might have come across that way. (I hate not being able to show inflection in writingâŚ)
Words like âmagicâ or âmiracleâ are problematic. Keto is slow motion compared to the impressions one conjures up with those words.
Anyway, still enjoyed the movie. And I hope itâll be a help to someone whoâs struggling. I think it kind of affirmed where my wife and I are right now⌠actually where we were when we watched itâŚ, that itâs OK, and itâs going to be OK. There are some variations in ways of eating that can work, and thatâs OK, too.
Maybe my perspective is a little different than many. The reason I say that is that I spend a lot of time as a gardener. Iâve been accused of being a farmer in the past but mostly I consider myself a gardener. I planted some little plants out in the garden today. Iâll look after them, water them when I have to, support them as needed, and theyâll slowly grow into some eggplant and cabbage. Had I planted the seeds myself (I bought these particular plants), Iâd have planted the seeds, and spent a few weeks getting them to where they are today and then planted them in the garden. Itâll be a couple of months before Iâll get much. Back a couple of months ago, I planted a couple of rows of green peas. (I know, not particularly keto but we enjoy them on occasion.) Theyâve got a bunch of small pods on them that are starting to fill out and still a bunch of blossoms. Tomatoes are just starting to blossom, peppers are small but so pretty, squash and cucumber plants are blossoming. Itâs really kinda neat to be a part of all of that from day to day, watching tiny little changes as they happen. I guess the point is, none of it is instant. There isnât a single seed that I can plant today and have food to eat from it tomorrow. Most take months. But the care each little plant gets along the way, day in and day out, will be likely to get me a reward when the harvest finally comes, hopefully some to share. (Actually, there is reward right now, the time in the sun and fresh air taking care of it allâŚ)That mentality isnât so prevalent these days as instant gratification is pretty big.
Anyway⌠rambling onâŚ
Have a good day!
@CrackerJax Yeah, baby!
@Bellyman I had a homestead for the better part of a decade at Lake Laberge, Yukon, about 30 miles north of Whitehorse (40 miles downstream by river). We grew a lot of what we ate, so I know well the feeling of dedication and accomplishment successfully growing your own food. It was interesting that although I could grow food plants in abundance, I could not grow a flower! My lady was the green thumb with flowers. We also had goats, chickens and rabbits so I also experienced the reality of killing what you eat raised from birth each with a name and personality. Yes, even chickens have individual personalities. I also hunted/killed a bear and/or moose each year. Moose are pretty big, even in the Yukon. The Indians said, âIf you canât bring the moose to camp, bring the camp to moose.â
BTW: it IS a catchy title and I like it. Has it been on the cover of Nationial Enquirer yet?
I really liked Fasting. It goes pretty in depth. I feel the first half hour or so is most pertinent. It talks of time restricted eating windows and shorter fasts. Then once it gets into religious fasting it doesnât really apply to my sensibilities much but itâs still worth a watch. The end goes into eating disorders and how fasting can be taken to an extreme. I think itâs actually important information. My take away with the more extreme examples were to listen to your body and if youâre not feeling well to end the fast. I do recommend it.
The Magic Pill was also my gateway to keto. I had followed low carb off and on for years, but never maintained it. Something about this video spoke to me in a way that nothing before had. I know that everyone doesnât respond to keto the same way, but for me, it has been a magic pill.
Watched this video on Netflix the other night.
Iâm getting restarted from being Paleo years ago, and thought this was a good to jumpstart my husband to join in with me.
Back when we started Paleo we watched some whole-food/Paleo/carbs&sugar-are-the-real-enemy documentaries. But when my husband talked to me about what he learned from The Magic Pill I realized that he hadnât learned as much as I thought he had back then.
He was like âI didnât know the body could run on just ketones! I thought you always needed some glucose!â And he was also found the upside-down food pyramid really helpful for visualizing what he should eat. I guess he previously thought that this diet meant just deleting the bottom layer? And keeping the rest the same? So then you just have less food? IDK.
I didnât much like the title of it either, but about halfway through, around the Dr. Fung clip, I think they explain why they chose it. That previously when the world suffered from infectious diseases, magic pills came along to take them away. And now that the world is suffering from diseases of civilization, people still think that there will be a magic pill to take the disease away. But actually the âmagic pillâ is just a dietary change. Thatâs my take on it.
Overall, I think this documentary is better than the previous ones from a decade ago or so. It hit more of the main points, and better. But I didnât find it all very consistent when it came to diet. I mean they used the words LCHF and ketosis, but then they showed the one girl making almond milk, another making 'bread" and the little girl eating strawberries in the garden with her grandma. I understand that these things can be a part of the diet for some people (and little girls should eat strawberries with grandma!), but for people who watch and have no idea, I think they could start thinking that thatâs what this diet entails, and not realize the 95% of whatâs on the menu if you go keto, or even just LCHF. Maybe they made the decision to be more visually appealing to people, instead of showing plates of hamburger patties or whatever. But if someone wants to start eating this way after watching the documentary, I think they might be a bit confusedâŚ