My first KETO discussion (argument) over dinner

[Matthew44]

My daughter is now 21, so does her own thing. HOWEVER, for starters, if I could do it all over again, I would NEVER have provided all the apple juice, junk crackers, etc., that toddlers and young children live on. Having said that, would I give her fresh fruit, brown rice instead of white, etc., etc., Yes. In hindsight, I would have basically fed her a very healthy, non-junk food low-carb diet (as my mother fed me), and guided her decisions as time went on. The one thing we did right was no soda, ever. But the fruit juice was just as bad.

I don’t allow my kids fruit juice full-stop. They are allowed water jeje. On very special occasions they can drink and eat what they want. Birthdays etc. Carbs like rice, bread and pasta, they can go to town as long they eat their veggies. The other rule we have is …Delaying gratification …Always eat what you least like first…So that’s normally veggies first, then refined carbs and finally meat.

[Janie]

My sons are grown but I would have fed them a lot differently if I’d know about keto. Not a keto diet for them, but no processed foods or juice. Whole fruit? Yes.

That being said… once they go to school you don’t have as much control over what they eat. My oldest was a vacuum cleaner and anything the other kids had in their lunch they didn’t want to take home and be questioned about why they didn’t eat it… my son took care of their problem!

[OldDoug]

i love my new education about this chem lab called the body!

It really is fascinating.

I’m the only living diabetic on my side of the family; not much pressing need for keto other than personally. Within my wife’s family, there is a pretty good level of awareness, and my mother-in-law, who reversed Type 2 diabetes, lost weight and got off all medication for it. The biggest challenge I face is with my wife - she’s quite the sugar addict. She’s okay metabolically, thus far, but I’m sure problems are coming, and I’d hate to wait for an official diabetes diagnosis to see her make changes. Of course, that’s what it took to get me to face facts.

[juice]

Do you have young children?

How is this relevant to the discussion? I believe male gynecologists exist, somehow.

[anon54735292]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen you add anything informative to any discussion

Take your own advice & read more thoroughly.

[Janie]

My all-time favorite ob-gyn was male and he retired a few years ago. He was such a good doctor! Always had time to listen to me and was so thoughtful and caring. Warmer than some women ob-gyn’s I’ve had! Empathy isn’t gender-specific.

[Janie]

[Janie]

If I responded [spoiler]bite me[/spoiler] would I get flagged???

[juice]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen you add anything informative to any discussion except be argumentative for the sake of it. I pity you.

I’m not sure how I’m going to recover from this devastation that you and all your like-minded cohort have inflicted upon me. I’ll try though, in between dropping in here to mislead and confuse people while arguing with them.

But, in the meantime while I try to recover from the above carnage, how about you answer the question? All you’ve done is make an ad hominem attack on me in order to avoid the opportunity to explain the rationale you were asked about.

[juice]

I feel sorry for you, really.

If nothing else, I’ve managed to allow you to feel morally superior TWICE now. Although I guess that’s your default state.

So at least I’m achieving that, right?

I guess you don’t get to many other threads than the ones you’ve created, given your above stuff. I suspect I know why.

Also, you STILL haven’t answered the question. Go right ahead, anytime.

my own thread

Also, that quote indicates a SERIOUS misunderstanding of how the internet operates, and always has. Starting a thread in a public forum is in no way analogous to owning it.

[anon54735292]

You’re a troll. Pure and simple. You come into my own thread and be a smart (/&%$. You have nothing better to do in your life than troll this forum

Seriously? Go home, you’re drunk.

[PaulL]

would argue that based on the scientific evidence I have gleaned so far in my exploration of low carb diets that children of today require moderated carbohydrate input

I would love to see that evidence. One of the things I love about these forums is Carl’s and Richard’s commitment to the science. It’s also what attracted me to the lectures of Dr. Phinney and others and got me eating this way. In contrast to a number of vegan lectures I’ve encountered, LCHF/keto researchers always provide references to the studies on which they base their understanding.

[juice]

In contrast to a number of vegan lectures I’ve encountered, LCHF/keto researchers always provide references to the studies on which they base their understanding.

Talking over people and being excited is a good substitute for references. #thingsilearnedfromjoelkahn

[juice]

You also give Australia a bad name.

Oh, I just saw the edit.

LOL, I’m pretty sure a whole lot of Americans are glad that intelligent people don’t judge an entire country on the basis of one person, be he a president or an internet troll.

Also, we started as a convict colony, so we ALREADY had a bad name.

[PaulL]

What are you guys talking about? I have always had great respect for the Land of Oz.

(Now, where did I put those ruby slippers? They’ve got to be round here somewhere!) `

[juice]

(Now, where did I put those ruby slippers? They’ve got to be round here somewhere!) `

I just told you, an Aussie - or a soon-to-be Aussie - stole them

[CarlKeller]

LOL, I’m pretty sure a whole lot of Americans are glad that intelligent people don’t judge an entire country on the basis of one person, be he a president or an internet troll.

Yep, we Americans did vote a troll into the White House. Please don’t hate us (more).

[Janie]

You’re a troll. Pure and simple. You come into my own thread and be a smart

This isn’t your thread so WTF are you talking about? Some other thread you started and think you “own”? Hitting the beers again?

Mic is no troll. Get a grip.

[CarlKeller]

Mic is no troll

He’s one of the most straight forward, honest, no beating around the bush types here. I appreciate him being here.

[OldDoug]

I really like Australians. I have a 2nd cousin who married one, and have played internet games with many of them - the timezone difference greatly facilitates some things. One thing that has struck me is that they have good senses of humor.