My first day of this new lifestyle

#1

Hello all,

Yesterday was the first day of my new lifestyle. My goal is weight loss while maintaining (as best as I can) my muscle mass. I won’t bore you with exactly what I ate, but I’ll list my the nutrients of each meal I had. The days I work I am unable to eat much. This is due to always being on the move at my job. I had two meals, I’ll call them lunch and dinner.

Lunch: Fat 19g, Protein 44g, Carbs 6g
Dinner: Fat 64g, Protein 94g, Carbs 6g

I understand my protein gain was extraordinarily high and I need more fat, but my question is this. Are you able to achieve / maintain ketosis with that much protein gain?

Thank you all.

EDIT: 6’3, 285. Male. Physically fit.

(Ethan) #2

Yes, most can maintain ketosis with that much protein. Many have that kind of macro ratio while losing weight. The fat comes from the body. During maintenance, you will want to up the fat a lot more.

(Liz ) #3

The protein question all depends on your height, your age, your gender, your physical fitness, your personal tolerance, etc. But for now I would focus on including more fats as you are trying to teach your body to burn fat for fuels and eating more fats helps with that. It took me 6 weeks to become fat adapted, that is to say, when my body switched from burning sugar for fuel to burning fats. In that six weeks I focused on eating to satiety no matter how many calories that was. After that period i refined my macros to better suit my fat burning needs.

#4

Great. Thank you very much Ezb.

(matt ) listed #5
#6

Thank you also Liz.

-Why was my original post flagged?

(Ethan) #7

Perhaps because you just edited it and maybe there has to be a review the first time you edit or something?

(matt ) #8

It was delisted not flagged. Not sure why. I relisted it.

#9

My second day:

164g fat
175g protein
23g carbs

Hopefully I can figure out how to get my protein levels down. I guess I’ll have to eat fattier meats and drop my chicken?

(Rob) #10

2nd day is much better - 65% fat calories.

Fattier meat is the key - increases fat AND reduced protein.

Chicken thighs with skin on are still very keto (and the cheapest /lb)

I had very similar levels of protein to begin with.

Now I have a standard meal most days of lots of bacon, fried eggs, frying cheese, cream cheese, pickles and buffalo sauce. Fairly ZC and gives me more carb options for second meal plus it has 75% fat calories and surprisingly low protein in grams.

(Sheri Knauer) #11

When I was first starting out, protein was the hardest to figure out. You’ll eventually figure out what works for you.

#12

Thank you all for the insightful words.

(Adrian Constant) #13

Wow those sound like some delicious meals! Just Remember to eat plenty of vegetable so you don’t get fatty liver!

(William Shafer III) #14

Hello, I’m not sure where you are located but in a pinch I’ve been eating 73/27 fatty ground beef from Krogers. If you look at the label it tends to be almost a perfect protein to fat ratio. I believe almost 75% calories from fat and 25% from the protein.

(Liz ) #15

Where’s the science that supports this claim?

(Adrian Constant) #16

https://www.drberg.com/blog/will-vegetable-carbohydrates-stop-ketosis
Here is a link to the content, let me know what you think!

(Liz ) #17

Thanks for the link. I respect Dr Berg but that science does not sound correct to me from all the people doing zero carb/carnivore with no problems with their livers. Fat we eat and metabolize turns to ketones and is used for energy, not stored in the liver.

When I ate too many carbohydrates and overwhelmed my fat cells then I’m sure extra fat was stored in my liver. But people go on the Ketogenic diet specifically to cure fatty liver disease and they do, it works. I don’t think eating vegetables has anything to do with it, though. It’s about getting insulin down to allow the body to release fat stores wherever the fat is deposited.

Hopefully someone else can come in here with more science to back up what I’m saying but I just don’t believe we need to eat vegetables to avoid fatty livers when eating Keto.

(Adrian Constant) #18

Thank you for the feedback! I understand what you are saying. Personally I deeply respect Dr. Berg because of his story and the amount of research he has put in. Everyone has a different body, so whatever works best for you I respect that decision. Good luck on the Journey!

#19

I enjoy his videos as well but I try not to dwell too much on them because a lot of the finer points he makes are a bit quacky.

#20

Fatty liver is caused by carbs, not fat. Someone correct me if i"m wrong but I don’t think I am