Thanks @Karen18, now I can send another comment 
Hmmm, scrambled eggs, my last one was pretty long ago, I should eat one again… Today I had 2 boiled ones and my usual sponge cakes…
Well that’s true… 
While dirty keto is totally keto, some strict woe like carnivore and vegetarianism can’t be dirtied as they cease to exist then. There is some relaxed version, grey area (spices) but yep, adding vegs just makes it not carnivore.
It’s another thing what terms we like to use but having carnivore in the end kinda hints that it’s some form of carnivore (surely there are zillion examples when it’s not true but some people are sensitive to some of them, I hate the “vegan meat/cheese” terms personally) and it’s not.
I can’t call my near carnivore “keto” as they are extremely different for me. And no idea what is ketovore, still, my mind probably refuses to retain the information or never got it in the first place. So I use carnivore-ish (with very specific and tiny additions so it’s almost as strict for me as true relaxed - I mean spices and dairy - carnivore) and “near carnivore” (similar the carnivore-ish but allows about anything in super tiny amounts).
Mentally it’s very, very important for me that the carnivore is in it. It influences my attitude and I need every help. Or not. But yes, sometimes I do. I may eat pretty okay most of the time without even trying but I have my worse times. And without me trying it would be more.
Oh it makes sense to me… Yes, let’s use it for that. {I continued to read later…} Not every item is carnivore and it goes beyond tea/coffee/spice but just a bit, accompanying carni food.
I still would wonder about the limits on amounts and added sugar content (sometimes it’s hard to avoid it when it’s some interesting condiment we can’t make ourselves)…
But maybe we shouldn’t think too much about it. Though even I do. It’s interesting.
I still just say my woe is “almost zero non-animal net carbs most of the time”. It’s right and it is exactly what I seem to need (with some restrictions. I wouldn’t like to swim in 0 net carb sweeteners. it’s one of my life goals to keep it as low as possible without sacrificing anything like whims, joys, temptations it goes well, fatty pork is just as awesome, it just takes away my need for such things).
But if someone says they do carnivore, I don’t know how they eat as people just can’t have precise definitions and if they have it, more or less, someone still will use it wrong.
Oh so relaxed allows even condiments? Some kind of them, at least. Or a drop of a higher-carb one is okay? Sometimes I wonder about it but then I just do my best to keep my condiments at the minimum. I use them if I really can’t seem to swallow my “plain” carni food. But that’s rare. (But I have off days so I can just shup it, it doesn’t worth much. But it does to me. I am changing!)
I am usually pretty lost about my woe when I add my fav condiment for cheese, it has lots of natural sugar and some added and it’s so obviously not carnivore but a tiny bit is so very amazing with cheese but I still have conscience problems and I almost NEVER have that regarding food. But I am against added sugar since maybe 12 years and it works so well normally but 1-2 items are just too useful in emergencies. Oh well. I never do things perfectly and it’s fine. But I still thrive to do better. Not necessarily more carnivore as I am fine with tiny extras when they are really justified for me. But I dislike certain things even if I allow them sometimes. Liked added sugar. Ew.
But I stopped eating cheese now so that nasty condiment has no power over me (The thing is only good for cheese, I almost always hate sweetness with my meat even if the amount is tiny.) It is normal for me but the last weeks were a tad worse. So I take a long break from it and try to forget about it.
I had my dinner. It’s odd lately, I stop eating early but then I almost immediately get hungry again… Eventually I eat a decent meal, it just takes more time than it strictly should… I dislike follow-ups (I still feel unsatiated but maybe it will pass? my body gives me mixed signals). I like to eat and then stop, satiated and satisfied.
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Oh I had follow-ups. Second dinner, third dinner… And I was still hungry. No idea why. Fortunately I wasn’t bored of my meat but I definitely didn’t desire it - but was hungry and meat is the best for it, apparently. IDK what is this obsession with meat from my body… Maybe the nutrients, I don’t eat many things (or rarely and in small amounts) I ate on vegetarian keto and low-carb… Still, less meat worked in the beginning. Oh well, if my body wants meat, it gets meat. But it took long for even eating more pork shoulder and bacon to help. Odd.
(I even had a keto dessert in my desperation. I had 3 carnivore dinners first. But stayed hungry. I don’t like eating off-carni things without desire but I ate everything carni I had, even multiple times and I didn’t want them. It didn’t help either so I ate more pork.
I decided it’s a good accountability thing to write down here when I eat off even if I don’t like to do it. My determination and plans for November broke apart but it’s still November and I don’t want to stray much, that’s what December is for… But I actually don’t want that either but I do have some plans for December. Mostly the making food part but I must taste my experiments. But maybe I lose interest, it happens a lot. Thankfully I have carnivore ideas too. But I need making new recipes, it’s my thing.)
Maybe my metabolism chose this very bad time (huge inflation and stuff) to go wild? Because even with my heavier than usual carni days (and my non-carni ones) I seem to slowly lose fat, it’s already 3kg, it’s WAY bigger than my (close to zero) normal fluctuations and the result stays with me…
Maybe my body does some interesting things inside. It better build some muscles too but as my lifting doesn’t go so well (I barely get better or not at all), I doubt it’s significant.
I am in no mood to track. Tomorrow. My meat consumption was high again, eggs lowish again… And the turkey skin is still not crispy, I will work on them later (put it next to some roast or something, I won’t fry it forever in a pan. turkey skin is so much thicker than chicken skin).
I wonder about an air fryer sometimes. But it’s not so important for me. Just for that rare chicken skins? No. I don’t even have space to put things, my kitchen counter is about 6 meters long in total and I use ALL that space and even need my kitchen island. IDK how others do it but me and kitchen space… I have 4 dish drier rack or what (there were 5). It’s not enough. Only one is a proper one (too bad it’s for plates and we have bowls… I put a few on it and it’s filled), most of the others are small, tiny things just drop from the big one so they have their own…
But I would make it work if I really wanted.
suits the day cause she has off from school today for veterans day. Hope she ain’t a hurricane in the house to unquiet my otherwise would be quiet rainy day…nah, she is such a 17 yr old joy to have around 
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