Long stall finally broken - lessons learned the hard way


(Jason Christianson) #59

Awesome work on breaking the stall and ditching the sweeteners! New found encouragement I hope as well as being stuck like that can just suck the life out of you.


(Deb) #60

TSH is thyroid stimulating hormone. Normal is low, around the 1.0- 2.0 area. They put me on meds when it was 4.5 so you can see how bad I made things.

I fasted constantly back then, as well as restricted calories. A really bad combination.

My advice: make 100% sure you are fat adapted. Test your ketones! Test your glucose and learn what your Glucose-ketone index is. That is probably THE most helpful thing I learned, and it’s scary that none of the years of reading I did ever had that information. If your GKI is 9 or above, there is something in your diet causing issues. Then use bg testing to narrow it down.


(Deb) #61

I forgot…fasting isn’t a bad thing. It can be beneficial in many ways. But before this, I could fast for up to 96 hours and lose 3 lbs and then gain it all back. Now I’m eating 1500 calories a day and dropping like a rock. Which sounds better to you?!


(Silvia Rucker) #62

That’s awesome! I am having a stall problem too. I lose and gain the same amount for about the last 2 months and I’m about 17 lbs from goal.


(Deb) #63

That’s EXACTLY where I am! Read my whole story, learn your GKI if you don’t know it, …you might be surprised!
In a nutshell, my problems:
Stevia (# 1)
Cream cheese
Peanut/nut butters
Any dessert that required sweeteners
Crystal Light/any artificial no cal drink.

I no longer drink coffee ( never imagined THAT) and only plain water or tea.
No more fasting. I eat 1500 glorious calories a day.


(Alec) #64

I think your daughter needs to come and spend some time on this forum.


Best macro tracking app?
(Deb) #65

Great idea…


#66

This youtube post says that even if you’re using artificial sweeteners with no calories, our body will still release insulin. Our body seems to be proactive when it comes to consuming sweets.


(Adam Kirby) #67

Makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. Sweet things were only available in the summer and fall and we used them to store body fat for the winter. Artificial sweeteners may be a case of us thinking we can outsmart nature and for some people that just might not work.


(5c1cf0eb1e7206d5e26a) #68

Love all of the advice… I’m lactose intolerant and use lactose free single cream for my cups of tea thru the day - I only have 3 per day - which is measured out at 2 tablespoons, I have a bulletproof coffee in the morning then lunch and dinner however I usually have a fat bomb after lunch and one in the evening to satisfy sweet cravings, I’m on 1447 cals per day but usually hit my macros every day - I weigh and measure ALL my food even my cream and salad dressings etc…ive lost a steady 1lb pw over the last 3months…i dont use stevia for fat bombs… i used to be a chocoholic and loved bread but havent had cravings since been on keto of which im delighted about !! Sorry for rambling on!


(Joan) #69

Wow, Stevia! I guess that makes sense, I’m craving sweet. All those things, cream cheese, whip cream… And I keep telling myself it’s keto! My portions are creeping up larger and many more snacks. Boo… I know what I must do


#70

every time I posted about sweeteners I got shut down, but I believe they are a problem for weight loss. Looking for data to prove me wrong,


(Robyn Shakespeare) #71

Just read your post thank you …you mentioned an app which one please


(Jennifer Kleiman) #72

All the non-industry sponsored studies I’ve seen where artificial sweeteners are used in a random controlled trial in human subjects, they’ve come up neutral. There’s a ton of epidemiological studies linking artificial sweetener consumption to fat gain but no solid cause/effect.

Anecdotally, some of my friends use sweeteners a lot and have lost all the weight they wanted & have no issue. Some of my friends, and myself, have tried cutting out sweeteners and observed that it definitely accelerated weight loss & was a major factor in cutting out cravings. I think it’s fundamentally individual, and it depends on the sweetener too. I prefer monk fruit and allulose when I do use sweeteners.


(Deb) #73

Carb Manager. Others use Cronometer.


(Deb) #74

You are correct and I think we’ll see that proved true more often than not. I think it also depends on quantity used, since it drops bg.


(Robyn Shakespeare) #75

Thank you …I 'm not good at technology so surprised I got a reply😚


(Deb) #76

Obviously you’re better than you think!


(Robyn Shakespeare) #77

Hahahaha you’re too kind :two_hearts:
I’m in Victoria Australia …where are you ?


(Deb) #78

On the other side of the planet!
Western Pennsylvania, USA.