Lion Diet to heal, 4 months in, poor restults. Anyone can help?

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(Michael) #21

@Shinita didn’t you find your spleen to be super chewy? I know you like the heart chewy, but if you tried it raw, I would be surprised if you did not like it more.

#22

It was only a little bit at one time (the rest is still in my freezer) but if I remember well, I have found the pork spleen quite soft with a very mild flavor. I think it needed the usual time to fry I use for almost everything (except beef liver. rabbit stuff is so tender I don’t use much time there either), my time sense is bad but it wasn’t just some minutes for sure.
It will work but it really needs something else to be flavorful enough.

(Alec) #23

This sounds a lot to me of low blood pressure. What you describe is a classic symptom of low BP. There’s an easy way to test this. Buy yourself a blood pressure cuff from the chemist/drugstore (cost approx $50?), go sit down in a position where you would normally get that lightheaded symptom when you stand up, attach the monitor, and then stand up, get light headed, and then take your BP (if you can!).

If you find you do have low BP, it’s worth a trip to the Dr to discuss. They can give you pills to increase BP, or if you want to try increasing it naturally, then I would eat more salt. But low BP should not be ignored, it is worth finding out and dealing with it if it is there.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #24

That means you probably really needed some nutrient in the liver, iron or Vitamin A, most likely.
If you are listening to your body, that’s very different from choking something down because you think you ought to, so good for you. :+1:

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #25

I had oysters for the first time, a few years ago. They were all right, really not bad at all, but not all that interesting, either. Snails have a firmer texture and a bit more flavour, to my mind, especially when dipped in butter. Yum!

Some people go wild for oysters, and you never know, you might be one of them!

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #26

Okay, again, if three litres of water is what your body needs, that’s different. I’m sorry, because I read your first post with certain assumptions. You obviously know what you are doing, so I’ll stop worrying.

By the way, and in case you don’t already know about it, a trick I found to help make distilled water taste better is to shake it up, which helps oxygenate it. If you’re not already doing that, give it a try.

(Geoffrey) #27

I do like them. I wouldn’t say I go wild for them but I never turn them down if given the opportunity to indulge. But then again, that pretty much goes for all shellfish.

(Robin) #28

Exactly this!
That’s me…. I run very low BP all the time. Can make me dizzy when I stand quickly or flip my head back

My cardiologist said they mostly recommend cutting out salt and oils to lower blood pressure, so I am free to consume both. (Like I already do.)

(Bkone ) #29

Thank you very much Betsy!!

The vision problems started before I began consuming liver, so this might not be the reason. (Also, I have to admit that iI am spending a lot of time in front of my PC Screen…so blaming vision problems solely on the new way of eating might be wrong. It could also be a coincidence and the culprit is screentime and age :smiley: ).

During the first 6 weeks or so, i did not consume any organs. Why tend people that consume organs have a hard time opposed to those that dont? I started with liver and hear to complement nutrients.

(Bkone ) #30

Michael, I am very sorry for spelling your name wrong!!:flushed: That was a bad typo, no intented mispelling :). Thanks you for the detail! Let me see if I can get a hold on Oysters here were I live. Though I think that this migh be a challenge. Right now I only consume Beef, no other animals, except for sheep cheese I incorporated yesterday (i had extreme cravings for cheese…)

I heard about eating liver raw…I dont know if I could do that. The meat and organs I get are always fresh (my butcher slaughters a cow every second day…), and mostly grass-fed, but still I feel some interior resistance to eat them raw. How does it taste?

(Bkone ) #31

How long do you cook beef liver? I think I am constantly overcooking…I do not stop cooking it until it reaches a interior temperature of 74°C. And yes, it gets relatively hard that way.

(Bkone ) #32

What does spleen taste like? On pictures it looks a little like liver to me.

(Bkone ) #33

Alec, thank you so much for your comment.

I have never had problems with blood pressure. Is it normal on la cero carb diet?

If salt does the trick, then I would prefer that to pills. I will try the Blood Pressure Cuff, to monitor this a little closer. This could also be a reason for my fatigue…

(Bkone ) #34

Hey Paul, thank you very much!!

During the last weeks I observed that I get much more aware of what my body needs. I have never felt something alike before on a normal diet. Before it was just: Hungry —> eat whatever was available (well, in very basic terminology…). But now its very different. My body is craving particular foods like liver, salty water, fat, or even cheese!!! yesterday I bought sheep cheese because my body was demanding it. This also happened a couple of weeks ago, then I had cheese for some days and after that went to strictly meat only again.

As for the oysters, I have to see where to get them. And snails, well, this might be impossible here in the Dominican Republic.

Please, do not be sorry, I really appreciate any comment/idea you might have!!!

Would this turn the water into “hexagonal” or “structured” water? I have heard about that before! I mostly shake the water after putting salt into it, so that it stirs well.

(Bkone ) #35

Hey Geoffrey, thank you very much for your comment!

I think now I do not have any other option than trying oysters!!! :relaxed:

(Bkone ) #36

Hi Robin, thank you very much for your comment!!

Is your low BP connected with your way of eating? Do you feel a difference when you increase your salt intake?

(Bkone ) #37

@kib1 @ctviggen @FrankoBear @PaulL @Naghite @Shinita @betsy2 @Alecmcq @Geezy56 @robintemplin

I truly appreciate every comment you have posted and want to say thank you to everyone for the time you have spent reading through my lengthy texts and providing advice wherever you could.

I wish each and every one of you a very nice Sunday!

#38

I haven’t any idea about interior temperatures and I don’t know how many minutes, I just fry things until they look done :smiley: But beef liver needed way less time than chicken or pork liver, I know that much. Next time I will measure the time, now I got curious :wink:
Never managed to make hard liver I think… :thinking: But if I ever did, that was pork liver, it’s hit and miss. I don’t remember if it gets hard just that sometimes it’s great (tender and tasty), sometimes it’s not really enjoyable. Odd. I never had this with other animal livers or other organs.

Indeed, the color, the texture… It was all liver like (pork spleen, once in my life :wink: ).
The taste is A LOT milder though. But it’s only pork, one time, hopefully @Naghite can answer in a much more useful way!

Oh yes, it’s quite neat! :smiley: I have this with egg, meat but even fat or protein if I ever manage to neglect one of those (it doesn’t happen often but I totally notice and correct it).
And my body complains if I eat something it doesn’t like. Nothing too bad, just little nudges (as long as I listen and don’t do stupid things day to day). Good feedback, I like that :wink:

(Betsy) #39

I am in Amber’s facebook group and she was recently talking about the topic of eating organs. She said that first of all, most people who eat organs tend to mostly eat liver because it’s the easiest to get. And then since they mostly eat liver, it’s easy to get an overdose of Vitamin A. I guess the Vitamin A toxicity is controversial and probably not universal, as some people seem to do fine with liver.

(Alec) #40

Not that I am aware of.

However, when you lose weight (and on carnivore losing excess weight is very common) your BP is very likely to reduce. Therefore if you would normally tend to lower BP, reducing weight can result in going from a “normal” BP at a higher weight to a low BP at a lower weight. If you have the symptoms then it’s worth checking out.