Let me get this straight-If I drink heavy cream and eat butter I’ll be skinny?


#61

Then you’re not doing keto correctly. If you focus on keeping your carbs under 20 (by, among other things, avoiding foods with hidden sugars - read the labels), then everything else will fall into place.

I really think you’re beginning to overthink/overanalyze this. This way of eating is not gorge yourself all day long on cheese and other low/no carb foods.

Again, it’s all about the carbs. Keep them under 20, eat to satiety, stop, drink lots of water, keep up your electrolytes (sodium, potassium, magnesium). Repeat.


(A ham loving ham! - VA6KD) #62

…this is starting to sound a lot like that other argumentative thread that was shut down last week…


#63

I have been having a discussion with Baytovin and others on another thread about this. YOU are the very reason I hope people stop saying things like ‘…eat until you’re full…’. Not that what they’re saying is particularly wrong but, people reading it can easily get the wrong idea.

You CANNOT keep eating what ever you like. When they say ‘eat to satiety’ they assume you will recognise when to stop. If you don’t recognise it, you WILL eat too much, and not lose weight.

As a basic, you absolutely MUST count your carbs (at least until you’re experienced enough to know what your eating). I would suggest you count calories if you’re not losing weight, though there will be many that disagree.

As for ‘…why am I doing this diet?..’, well…only you know the answer to that.

I’d suggest you get a bit more serious about what goes into your mouth, just for a few weeks. And see what difference it makes. You’ll soon know if this is for you or not.

KCKO my friend.


#64

BINGO - perfectly stated. :clap:


(mole person) #65

You only have to count your carbohydrate grams until you get used to what 20g is like. I rarely count anymore.

You misunderstood what the diet is really about. It’s not about eating a ton of fat, it’s about NOT eating carbohydrates, and replacing most of the calories that you were getting from carbohydrates with calories from fat. Carbohydrates raise insulin which causes fat to be stored on your body rather than used for energy. Fat doesn’t do that. But if you eat both fat and carbohydrates you just get fatter faster since your insulin will go up and the fat will go strait into storage while your body is busy burning all your glucose from the carbohydrates.

This isn’t the easiest way of eating at the start, and it can be very confusing. The reason it works isn’t because it’s so easy but because after a short adaptation period you are able to eat much less without being at all hungry, and THAT can lead to permanent weight loss because it’s completely sustainable.


(Running from stupidity) #66

If you’re not taking any notice of what you eat, then how can you claim to even be TRYING to follow what this is?

And how do you know if you’re avoiding them if you’re not taking notice of what you eat?


(Hoby Bradfield) #67

Why? There are NO essential carbohydrates… there ARE essential fatty acids and proteins… it sounds to me like you are still buying in to the Food Pyramid “logic”…


#68

Who told you it was a ‘weight loss’ diet?? :thinking:Weight loss can be a side effect of eating this way is all


(Blue Polka) #69

Ok yeah I’m trying to be healthy but also lose weight.


#70

It could change your life :ok_hand:t2: It has mine. It’s Tricky in the beginning and goes against everything we’ve been thought about what is good and bad for us. it can be hard to get your head around it but once you get the hang of it, the benefits are amazing :wink:


#71

What @juice said. I wish you the very best and hope you’ll get the results you want, but if you want to be successful with this, my sincere best advice is to do more reading/research about what this lifestyle entails than it honestly seems you’ve done so far, before even your first grocery shopping trip. People have already pointed you to some great resources.
Otherwise you’ll be throwing away a lot of food (huge waste of money, no one wants that for you) and getting the opposite results on the scale too (no one wants that either). Sometimes it’s really worth putting the time in first, even though we’re all in a hurry to get to goal weight.


(Blue Polka) #72

I agree. Maybe I don’t understand the diet. But from what I can tell, not only do i need to concern myself with carbs, but calories as well.


#73

There is plenty of disagreement on this topic on previous threads so you’ll have to decide for yourself. You can count calories if you want but the question is what you do with that information. If you pay more attention to calories than to the breakdown of your food and how you feel (eating when actually hungry, stopping when not) then you’ll probably run into issues.


(mole person) #74

Many people don’t count calories on this way of eating. I’ve never counted them and I lost every single extra pound. In general, after the initial adaptation period, you just get way less hungry and counting calories is not necessary.


#75

Yeh I don’t count calories either. Oh the freedom :raised_hands:t2:


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #76

Why are you doing it then?
Why are you trying something you cannot believe and know nothing about and have such an argument against?

Best advice I can give you is to research the hell out of it.

I’ve lost 15kg, I eat whatever I want whenever I want and as much of it as I like (to satiety, which my body recognises very well) and yes, I am very very healthy! :stuck_out_tongue:


(Karen) #77

I eat about the same calories that are used to only it’s different food.

K


(Melanie) #78

There are various “versions” of keto eating, but the ketogenic diet/WOE can be modified in ways that will make you GAIN weight. Eating keto to the point of becoming fat-adapted is the main thing, but even when you’re fat-adapted (body is using fat instead of simple carbs for energy), you have to consume fewer fat grams than you burn in order for you to lose weight. If you eat 3000 calories of pure real butter in a day, but you only burn 2600 calories total, then your metabolism hasn’t had the opportunity to tap into the stored fat on your body, which is the whole point of eating keto for weight loss. You have to have a deficit-intake of energy so that the body is forced to consume STORED fat when the intake is used up. That’s my take on it, anyway. I’m not a keto-guru but it’s what makes sense to me. It also explains the countless times in my life that I have gone on a no/low carb diet and stop losing after about two or three weeks… because I was consuming way more cheese, mayo, meats, etc. than my body could metabolize. And each time my body got wiser to what I was about to put it through (I think that’s why for some of, becoming fat-adapted takes much longer… we have to show our body we’re serious this time.) Weight loss slowed, I lost motivation, then back to the old bad eating habits. Until I was ready to do the same failed thing again.


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #79

Do you have life issues that are stressing you out? Is there a reason you feel driven to over eat?

Just eat fatty meats with salad and dressing for a while, with only bacon and eggs for breakfast, if it still doesn’t work, then find another eating plan, as you can not get this one to work.

Why are you doing it if you think it won’t work for you? I do it because I love the foods and it started working right away for me. Maybe you should try another approach. I have friends who do great eating vegan, maybe try that?

I am starting to feel the same way.


#80

Get yourself some nice pork belly and tell me how many slices you can eat without throwing up! I could eat a 5 pound Bundt cake containing 4 cups of sugar and want more, but 2 thick slices of pork belly with broccoli and some butter, and I’m done!