Let me get this straight-If I drink heavy cream and eat butter I’ll be skinny?

(Running from stupidity) #41

Yeah, I’m planning on doing this as well. I figure if I do that, and use it in cabbage lasagne, I should never know it’s there.

(Brian) #42

I just don’t get terribly excited if I happen to have a few carrots, which are a root vegetable. I don’t eat them all the time but on occasion, I don’t really think twice about having some. They’re not as keto friendly as many of the veggies but they’re a lot more friendly than a similar sized serving of potatoes. If the portion size is small and they fit in the macros, I’m not opposed at all. It helps to have gone through the carb counts on some of these things (a 100g serving of cooked carrots is maybe 7g or 8g of carbs) so that at least I have a pretty good idea of exactly what I’m eating if I choose to do so.

That won’t work out well for some people but it’s not been a problem here. I’m pretty relaxed.

I can’t say I’m a big fan of radishes either. They’re one of the ones we’ve wanted to like more than we really do. On occasion, we’ll have a few to remind ourselves that we don’t really like them that much. LOL!

FWIW…

:slight_smile:

#43

I’ve mixed liver in ground beef and could still taste it. It’s MUCH more tolerable tho

#44

Is there any risk to eating raw liver? Just curious if you happen to know

#45

Generally speaking, yes, there is a risk of eating any meat raw.

That being said, I’d eat a pill size of anything except :poop: or :birthday:. I wouldn’t worry about raw frozen liver, pill sized, especially if it’s grassfed and properly handled before freezing.

(Carpe salata!) #46

I have a nice steak pan fried in a dessert spoon of lard. Take the steak out then splash in some red wine and add a big spoonful of double cream and simmer to a sauce. Pour that over the steak with steamed spiralised zucchini. Serve with a glass of the red.

With that, though, I’m satisfied with one meal a day and no snacks except water and maybe a coffee some days. I will have breakfast as well on the weekend. Bacon and eggs of course! :slight_smile:

(Karen) #47

Thanks for asking blue polka I just did have my cholesterol test on Friday. My results are my trigs divided by my HDL is 1.45 so yes, I’m healthy. If you have a lot of excess body fat you should be only eating fat to satiety. Your body will be using some of your own personal fat and you will notice the difference. You will be satiated much sooner. As for the vegetables and the fruit and the fiber most of this is not necessary, although I do like vegetables and fruits. Fructose is very hard on your body keep those fruits to minimum; berries few and seldom. You seem to be vegan and interested in Keto. You can definitely lose weight on vegan, and several other diets as well, as long as you’re keeping your starchy carbohydrates low. You can eat lots and lots of leafy greens and keep below 20 g of carbohydrates. The proteins are harder to get. And you shouldn’t be eating too much soy. Good luck though. I’m 40 pounds down from my top weight.

K

(Amanda) #48

Ha, ha, ha!

(Consensus is Politics) #49

A little over a year ago I had some blood work done. I was pretty much off on everything. Almost nothing was normal. Cholesterol was just about opposite what it should be. Doctors wanted me on statin starting years ago (I refuse statins).

I went in for unrelated blood work. Due to never ending kidney stones. At least one a month for the past few years. Mostly just little ones. Just enough to feel their passage, with a little air bubble “bloop!” Upon exit.

A few were enough to drop me to the floor writhing. So lab tech calls me, while he is looking at my blood. My blood glucose was 594. Toxic level. He told me this was an emergency issue, life threatening condition and I needed to go the the ER post haste. Call an ambulance if need be and get their yesterday! 30 seconds later got the same call from my primary care doc.

I tend to get long winded, so let me sum up…

My HBa1c was 11.7%. Six weeks later I went keto (long story in itself). Four months later my HBa1c was 5.7%. Now to your question about cholesterol. ALL of my blood work came back NORMAL. My HDL was 62, which is considered better than good.

Of course my PC, Endocrinologist, nursing staff, nutritionist, were all blown away. I cured my diabetes. I reversed it. This just doesn’t happen.

I’ve never felt better. I lost 40 pounds in the first 14 days of eating ketogenic. Fourty pounds in fourteen days. An addition 15 pounds over the next few months. I went from 245 pounds to 190 pounds. I seem to hover between 190 and 195. But now I no longer worry about my weight. Here’s what I eat…

Morning
BPC (bullet proof coffee) which is (for me) a double sized cup of coffee with a tablespoon of coconut oil, teaspoon of butter, and 1/3 cup HWC (heavy whipping cream), and Stevia sweetener. Calorie load of about 400 to 500 calories (which I no longer bother counting. Just included the data for dramatic effect).

Depending of what’s going on in the day my meal time fluctuates. Could be 10:00 am, could be 6:00 pm, might just skip eating if I’m not hungry. Quite often I’m not hungry.

My meal would be one of the following, or something very similar if I end up eating out, or just need to piece something together real quick.

— 1 pound slab of pork belly, baked or fried.
— 4 bacon wrapped stuffed chicken thighs
— about a dozen stuffed jalapeño peppers
— homemade ice cream using HWC, and a little coconut oil, and what ever flavor
— 1 pound of 73% lean hamburger, with a few pieces of bacon
— steak and eggs
— bacon and eggs
— bacon wrapped meatloaf made with chia seeds instead of bread, stuffed with a brick of cream cheese
— cream cheese and pepperoni
— Black olives, with some ACV (apple cider vinegar) splashed about them.

All of that in just one meal. Ok, well, any one of those bullets would be my one meal for the day. I say I only eat one meal a day, but my coffee has more in it than most peoples breakfast.

Been eating this way for nearly a year. My last check up and blood work was in Aug. that’s where my blood work showed EVERYTHING in mid normal range. Except my salt. It was normal, but at the low end of the normal range. For me that is the one draw back. Sodium depletion. Eating very low carb keeps insulin levels so low that the kidneys will allow salt to just pass with the water. So I need to eat about 3 times the recommended level of salt to keep it normal.

(Erin Wilson) #50

Fat is very filling. You may think that “fat to satiety” means you’d be eating endless amounts of the foods you mentioned, but the reality is that you won’t eat that much. When fatty foods are not combined with sugar they are incredibly filling.

(Blue Polka) #51

Bob that’s amazing——

(Blue Polka) #52

Does anyone eat A LOT of food and still look slim? I feel like most people don’t eat very much?

(Consensus is Politics) #53

Look up the nutritional info for 1 pound of pork belly and get back to me :cowboy_hat_face:

#54

I don’t think I’ve ever eaten so little per day.
I am usually a big eater/grazer, but not any more. I really can’t believe it. I did Atkins a hundred years ago, I ate loads on that. The higher fat content is really working for me.

(Blue Polka) #55

Fair enough Because Bob—

I’m attempting my first Keto day, so far I’ve had a heavy cream latte (no sugar) and a chicken bowl (minus rice and beans) from Taco Bell. I’m still really hungry to be honest. I now plan to go get something like cheese to pig out on—— I will be amazed if I actually lose weight doing this. I feel like I’m gonna get bigger. LOL

(Erin Wilson) #56

You’ll probably be hungry for the first few days because your body expects carbs. When this happens, give it fat and keep carbs (even legal ones) low. It will speed up the process. FWIW—it took be about 3 months to start feeling amazing. I’m glad I didn’t stop.

(Erin Wilson) #57

Also—a chicken bowl (minus rice and beans) is not going to be enough food to keep you satiated. Think “chicken (or better yet, carnitas) bowl with a sliced avocado on top.” Also—if you are going to eat out it’s best to check nutritional information—it’s easily done online—because lots of restaurants have sugars hidden in everything even their spice mixtures and sauces for meats. Good for you for taking the plunge! The newbies thread on this forum is great too.

(mole person) #58

This won’t work unless you count your carbs and stay under 20g a day. It’s really easy to overdo carbs if you are having a lot of dairy. Every single tablespoon of cream has a gram of carbohydrate, every single ounce of cheese has a gram of carbohydrate, every egg has a gram. Your salad will have many grams. If you try and do this diet by just gorging on cheese and not counting carbohydrates you will very likely not have any success. Eat fatty cuts of meat, cook with lots of added fats, and keep careful track of you carbohydrate count until you understand where they are coming from.

To give you an example, I stopped losing weight at one point and started paying closer attention to my carb count and I found I was getting MORE than 20 grams of carbs from the cream in my coffee alone. No room left for any vegetables, any cheese, or any eggs. I still struggle with yummy cream from time to time, and when I do the weight loss stops.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #59

Incorrect. Just enough fat to feel satiety. If you eat fattier meats, it isn’t that much additional fats. I don’t know anyone who just guzzles down HWC etc. at every meal.

You can eat a small apple, or other fruits, just don’t gore on them all day like some people do. Carrots in small amounts are good too. again, just not all day long. I used to sit by a woman at work who was grossly obese, she at carrots all day long and she always brought a bag of fruit to work and she finished them all before she left work. I wasn’t keto then but I knew that was way too much sugar and starch.

I have had baby carrots in salads, part of an apple in an apple topping my husband makes for paleo pancakes, I’ve had a few melon slices from time to time. I just don’t eat any of it all the time and I don’t eat higher carb foods at each meal in a day.

You need to get rid of your fat paranoia. Even Ancel Keys admitted he was incorrect about fats and cholesterol before he died. I know it can be hard I had to do it too.

And I am very healthy, just had my labs done and visit with dr. she is delighted with all my results. I am 2 yrs. into keto/lchf WOE, over a year at maintenance. Tons of people on these forums are healthy, many used to be extremely ill, but not anymore. That is why they stick around and try to help others, like Richard and Carl have been doing with podcasts, ketofests, and the forums.

Good luck on your Journey.

(Blue Polka) #60

Ok wait.

So today I drank a latte with heavy cream, a chicken bowl, and celery sticks with pimento cheese and cream cheese. A lot of them.

I have not been counting exact calories or exact carbs. I’m sure I went over 20 carbs and I’m sure it was a million calories and I’m sure something had sugar somewhere!

Now, if I have to count exact carbs, and concern myself with calories, and concern myself with how much sugar hidden is in every little thing—— then why the heck am I doing this diet?!

That was the whole point, I thought I found a diet where I could enjoy as much as I want so long as I avoid certain things.

Ok, if I have to county everything so exactly, then it’s just another diet. That’s all it is. I’d rather just eat whatever I want and count the calories like I always have!

Regretting buying the big tub of pimento cheese now!

HUMPH!!!