I have no problems with coffee - I have problems with drinking it in huge amounts all day and even using it as procrastination method… I can spend an hour in the kitchen, drinking coffee…
But my body actually isn’t completely fine with it. It changes things a bit. It doesn’t feel bad, per se but… Not ideal.
And I don’t actually need coffee and it costs money. Wasteful things. One now and then is enjoyable, I like the taste but I don’t even enjoy it in huge quantities, I just become almost a slave of it.
But it’s not in my 100 biggest problems in my life I guess so I use it az a crunch, comfort and source of joy for now THOUGH… I need to say goodbye to my old life and actually get a life. I find it easier to change if I keep only the important things fixed and get rid of the problematic ones almost at once. more control over coffee helps having more control in other things. Unless I feel frustrated without it but I can’t skip something if I am tempted to consume it anyway, I don’t have the right attitude for it (I do have a strong will I am sure, I just don’t use it to skip coffee).
And even though I am only really tempted to drink coffee a few times a day at most, if I drink it, it’s super hard to do it in moderation…
But your poetry was nice
I don’t use coffee to raise up my usually too high fat intake, coffee with butter is mildly gross to me anyway (better than nothing, I tried it, foamy, a bit cream-like, borderline drinkable but cream is better. egg is better. egg and cream is the absolute best :D)
I use as little salt as possible, my smoked pork already caused problems when I depended on it a bit too much (and that very piece happened to be overly salty). I quickly developed an aversion to salt if I go near to the keto recommended amount. 4-5g per day is natural and perfect for me, works on every woe And salt in coffee? Sounds super gross to me (it’s probably tiny, still). I don’t use salt in coffee, chocolate and in most sweet things. Salty caramel is cool but well, I didn’t bother with caramel making for long even on keto (stupid thing always separated except the very first time).
Just like I hate sugar in meat dishes with a passion. I have salty things without sugar (if the condiment has it, it’s not because I prefer that, definitely not) and sweet things without salt. It works for me. Coffee is neutral but it’s vaguely sweets to me. So sweet things (like cream) are nice, salt is out of question.
If something is edible/drinkable, I usually put an egg in it (or 10. it depends).
In my keto times, I still had plant-based dishes… But egg makes everything better. Not cinnamon and not bacon, not even chocolate. Egg Salty, sour or sweet? Egg goes with it.
Even so, eggy coffee without cream isn’t quite right. I developed a cream addiction. I barely touched dairy for ages except harder cheese but somehow cream found its way into my life. Cream isn’t good for me, negligible protein, sugar. But I am super good with tiny amounts. Unless it’s about eggs, obviously and most meat is like that too. Cured meat is an exception.
Now that I bought a non bitter coffee again, I truly fast so I only put cream into my coffee in my eating window and that’s tiny. Good. I am careful with my sour cream consumption too. It’s almost automatic, I learned to consume tiny amounts, it’s a habit now. We always keep a lot of sour cream at home, it’s a very basic ingredient in dishes in Hungary and usually impossible to substitute. We just didn’t use it for several years, I can’t imagine how…
Wow, your intuitive eating works so different than mine… But my body is different, I am different, I am addicted to food things… And no one eats constantly around me. Alvaro has 2-3 meals a day and almost never any separate snacks. It’s bad enough for me he eats lots of carbs… It caused problems in the past, with my non-existent discipline and love towards very various dishes… But I got better.
I couldn’t care less about my stomach. Why is it so important for people? I imagine their stomach is complaining when empty? It seems so. I don’t even notice if it’s empty except if I focus very, very hard. And what if it’s empty? It has nothing to do with anything. Being very full is a huge problem (what if I need to drink or eat? being super hungry with a stomach with 2kg stuff inside is horrible, very rare but I never forget) but emptiness is fine. Usually. Extremely rarely my stomach is noticeably, not that nicely empty and I usually ignore it. It’s just a simple state. My stomach has no idea about my body needing food as it’s only the stomach, the food has a huge journey afterwards and it becomes energy (and waste) in the end. Or it would be late if the body would tell us to eat when there are no more energy from the last meal…? I don’t know but I function just fine my way. And I have reserves anyway.
Growling rarely happens if I eat every day. Why others have it super quickly after a meal, I don’t know. And even if I have stomach/gut growls, it’s 1-2 seconds and that’s it. Maybe it happens again an hour later. But growling is one of the best anti-appetite things in my life. It’s almost certain I definitely won’t eat when I have it. It turns off my appetite. If I happen be hungry, it doesn’t always work…
I find it very good I don’t need to eat all day, that most be super uncomfortable. I find 2 times a day too much sometimes, I rarely eat quickly. Meal is almost a ritual, not a very serious, elaborated one but still. I chill, relax, talk with Alvaro, even make a new quick dish (like scrambled eggs with sausage) if needed…
But I am a natural intermittent faster. And fat adaptation is cool. Even moderate-carb can’t overpower it, I don’t need to eat many times a day. Not like I needed that before but I only had 17-18 hour fasts on high-carb. I guess. I had no idea about IF back then. I just couldn’t eat before lunch, I was way too full. No wonder, I ate a ton back then, all kind of food, even satiating ones.
But I ate a bit too much even after fat adaptation. I only had the ability not to do it and still feeling satiated but I still could eat without hunger, need and even appetite just fine. I didn’t always want to but you know, the usual, compulsions. Carnivore brought the magic, it effectively keeps me from eating too much, too often. No self control is needed, I just can’t eat more than what I should/need, I am fine. Someone like me need this.
Sorry but you talk about such interesting things here And I am so excited too
I got a wee bit hungry and ate a few bites and got full. Hey, I thought it was only for the very first week of carnivore back then (5 days but I had no meat left)… Why have I this again? Probably because I wasn’t really hungry yet…
Alvaro started to eat a freshly baked bread stick (my kitchen smelled so nice and they are pretty I love baking bread, I like pretty things) and it seemed so nice (despite it has no eggs so I don’t really like it even taste wise) that I rather ate more food Still tiny meal so dinner will happen too.
I feel so perfectly satiated near all day (and when I not, I eat). Without something missing and urging me to eat and eating too much and not the right food, wanting the usual sweets but they rarely feel nice… I had wonderful low-carb times, I loved them but it’s better now and I changed anyway. The woe that worked nicely before causes some problems now. Even without vegetables. It’s very annoying not having the peace I expect after a meal. I eat now - and it’s fine, my mind can do its things, not thinking (too much) about food and I only had a proper meal, not too much or with slightly wrong ingredients because I desperately tried to satiate my hunger for 2 hours. It’s not my usual on low-carb even now, far from it but well, it happens. It’s worst when I simply don’t have enough proper food or I am bored with it. That never ends well. No amount of not satiating food can save me, no matter if it’s keto. I can do perfect macros and add any amount of extra fat… I am still HUNGRY. Or unsatisfied. And I blame the carbs. Even on keto.
In short: I am an idiot if I don’t try at least to stay close to carnivore