Is My Diet Sufficient?


#1

Here’s what I eat:

150g pork belly/bacon fried in coconut oil with 1oz spinach and 2oz cucumber for breakfast
150g Pork slice and chicken liver grilled (or sometimes fried, though the former is easier) with 1 hass avocado (just under 100g) and 1oz spinach
2 medium grilled chicken thighs for dinner (roughly 300g meat + skin) with 10oz steamed kale and 20z broccoli and maybe 1oz mushrooms.

Am i eating enough? Any less protein and I’ll need to eat in between. Sometimes with breakfast I might have some coconut oil in hot water, but i’m not a fan of that kind of eating.


(James Studdart) #2

You should really work out your macros.

Carbs - 20g or less. This is a max not a target

Protein: 0.8-1g PER 1kg of lean body mass. This is a TARGET you should hit this every day, or as close as possible

Fat: enough to hit your required calories or until your full.

To work out your lean body you will need to know your body fat percentage, have a Google for a calculator, I like the KetoGains calculator, but make sure you adjust the carbs to 20g not 25g

With Keto eat your macros, it’s about eating nutrient dense food to meet those macros, not the quantity you eat.


#3

Macros are no substitute for nutrition and impossible to calculate in real life, for example I can cook using cocnut oil to fry with. I can put 20g into the pan, but there is no way to know how much of that I will end up consuming versus how much remains in the pan or on the plate.


(James Studdart) #4

Without working out what you should be eating, i.e. your macros, even though it is only an estimate/guide you are not going to be able to correctly work anything.
I know several people who were not tracking their intake correctly and keto wasnt working for them, as soon as they did as I have said above, they started to lose weight and feel much better.

You’re asking us to guess how many balls are in the jar, when we haven’t seen the balls or the jar.

I know what I have said above works, I have lost 83lbs by following those simple rules, so simply take it or leave it.


#5

Are you feeling satiated now? I seem to remember this being an issue previously.
Do you enjoy your food?
Are you achieving whatever you are setting out to achieve with your health and fitness?

If the answer to all is yes then I would say your diet is sufficient for you and your needs. Yay.


(matt ) #6

If this turns into another troll post I’ll shut it down straightaway. So be aware.


#7

then don’t accuse me of being one. do you think this kind of provocation is welcome?


#8

If it turns into… no accusation there. Just a warning. Like it or not, your reputation proceeds you.


(Todd Allen) #9

As you rightly recognize tracking food/macros and trying to hit targets supposedly appropriate for an average person based on estimates of lean body mass and activity presents many challenges. But the best person to answer your question is yourself. Some people thrive on lots of protein and some don’t. And for others it depends on their activity level, stress, sleep and other factors.

Another approach is to track results via things like blood glucose, ketones (breath and/or blood), body temperature, physical performance, body fat via a tape measure, skin fold calipers or photos and body weight with a scale. And if budget allows before and after blood & lipid panels and dexa scans can be helpful. Daily journaling of your tracked data, what you do, what you eat, supplements & medications, how well and long you sleep and how you feel can all over time help you develop a sense of what works and what doesn’t.


#10

Measuring those things is no less obsessive and unnatural though, to say nothing of impractical. Who has the means to test all that stuff?


#11

My diet is insufficient as regards constipation though. Keto seems to have a huge problem with this and I see no reason to justify the eschewing of fibre.


#12

Measuring and tracking is actually pretty easy and costs nothing, assuming you have access to the internet and trackers such as My Fitness Pal. Whether you want to or can be bothered to is of course up to you. I don’t track most of etc time because I can’t be arsed and I have a decent handle on what to eat. I do track periodically though to keep myself in line and monitor any changes I want to make.

Constipation is generally pretty easily solved with magnesium and fat. I find coconut oil to work well and also golden paste which is a paste made with turmeric, black pepper and coconut oil. Some people swear by coffee. Regular exercise can also help, especially something like yoga. In fact, I believe there are some yoga routines on YouTube specifically for aiding digestion. Have a look for Yoga with Adrienne.

I am not sure what you are looking for with this thread. I have already provided a comment which I feel covers it pretty well.


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #13

I do! And did, and do! Lol

Love it.


#14

Those things have not helped constipation at all. I do yoga.

How much oil and magnesium are you meant to take? Having to rely on excess magnesium, via supplements, is not really ideal surely? Especially when I hear of people taking 9 magnesium pills in one day.


#15

I don’t have any of those things. I have a tape measure, a bathroom scale, and a kitchen scale.
I have Ketostix to see that I am in Ketosis

I count my fat, protein and carbs as grams, and at the end of the day I also count it as calories. No deficit, no weight loss.

I like this diet/change of life because it keeps me satisfied. Fat/protein vs Carbs keeps me fuller longer, and gives me more energy.

I’m not a scientist, I can’t afford expensive gadgets and food, I’m working it with what I’ve got, and I am succeeding.


#16

Well in theory too much magnesium just leads to the runs and you excrete any excess. I agree that taking huge amounts is not a good idea unless you have blood tests to support the need to supplement to that level. I don’t know what to tell you re constipation - magnesium, golden paste, fat in general but coconut oil especially, coffee, yoga and anything to help stress and tension is about the end of my ideas. It would be worth taking a stool softener in the meantime to make things a little easier. Is there any chance you have thyroid issues? If you have other symptoms on the list of hypothyroidism (google) it would be worth getting that tested. Otherwise, maybe you simply need to eat more fibrous foods and if that takes you above keto levels so be it. You can lead a very healthy lifestyle on higher carbs within the realms of a more moderate LCHF plan. Keto works wonders for many but if you have a greater insulin sensitivity and do not have behavioural issues when you eat slightly higher carbs then maybe that is the answer for you. I would not want to live with constant constipation either. Keto is not a set of fixed rules that you must adhere to regardless of your own health and well being. You need to find what works for you and nobody here is going to shame you if that means 30g of carbs, 40 or 50 - even if it takes you out of ketosis (which actually it might not). Take what you have learnt so far and try different things to work out what you need to do to help you.


(Todd Allen) #17

I test my breath ketones with a breathalyzer that cost less than $3 with shipping on ebay. I test blood glucose with a meter I found on amazon for $12 which included 100 strips, 100 lances, the lancing device, control solution and a zippered pouch with free shipping, The blood ketones are tested with a 2nd meter I got for less than $20 which also included 50 glucose strips and the rest of a starter kit. The ketone strips were nearly $20 for 10, but that was all I needed to get a good correlation of my breathalyzers. Skin fold calipers were less than $15. I take photos with a used smart phone I bought off ebay for $30. And I use free apps on it to track speed/distance/heart rate when exercising using it’s GPS and I use it to log much of my other health/fitness data.

Through fasting/near fasting in just the past 3 weeks I’ve probably saved more on food than I’ve spent on the gadgets.

Doing this stuff over the past year I’ve largely fixed my fatty liver, bad HbA1c, scary high blood pressure and orthostatic hypotension, dyslipidemia, chronic inflammation, IBS, raynaud’s and the festering wounds of fingers and toes, peyrone’s, lymphedema, peripheral neuropathy, frequent urination, hypoxemia, insomnia and miserable night sweating, headaches, fatigue, frequent colds and pleurisy, dropped my body fat from ~45% to ~20% and reversed clinical symptoms of SBMA - a supposedly untreatable progressive neuro-muscular wasting disease from which I was in a death spiral. Taking that into consideration I consider it time and money well spent.


#18

That’s awesome, Todd.


(Sonia A.) #19

That’s really amazing. You’re an inspiration, Todd.


#20

Wow, you’ve done amazingly well! You shopped well too!