Is keto seen as the "tech bro" diet?


(BuckRimfire) #1

I was briefly thinking about Virta Health and then its co-founder Sami Inkinen, who could safely be described as a tech bro. This made me wonder of keto (or carnivore) is over-represented in Silicon Valley, or if the general population sees it as a tech bro diet.

Maybe it’s too low-tech to hold the attention of Silicon Valley. I read recently that injecting gray-market Chinese-made peptides is all the rage now. Yikes.


(KM) #2

What I feel I’ve seen is a shift away from food based intervention, which might have been seen as a more “female” area of expertise, or at least gender-neutral, into a space with a lot of STEM technology and focus on big muscles, both of which have traditionally been more male centric. I think there’s another association that goes vegan equals pacifist equals women and effeminate males, ergo the more carnivorous you are, the more masculine. This has always been a little squirrely for me because I am a feminist but also a meat heavy ketovore, but anti-vegan within this context seems misogynistic.

I recognize that this is all objectively nonsense. A truly optimal diet has nothing to do with gender or politics, unless it turns out that the sexes actually need significantly different nutrition based on their innate physiology. Still, it’s hard to sort out the social politics from the logic based truths of human nutrition.


#3

That’s been the rage for over a decade now. Nothing yikes about it, that’s literally where they all come from, including the ones people are massively overpaying for. I pay $55 for 5mg of Semaglutide (Ozempic). Also been using it since way before anybody ever heard the word Ozempic. Retatrutide at some point will be released, my wifes been on it for about a year now.

The FDA runs a fear campaign and uses select words to make people afraid of them like “gray market” which is a hilarious term since it literally means they didn’t pay FDA vig to be blessed by them. No supplement is FDA approved, yet nobody is afraid to take a multivitamin. But that’s OK, I like it that way, it keeps costs down for biohackers.


(Joey) #4

Hmm… I’ve never thought of keto as a tech bro thing.

Perhaps I’m oblivious, but I thought those dudes lived on pizza, burritos, and sleep deprivation while changing the world as we know it.

[Personally, am going on 7 yrs carb-restricted eating as a tech savvy linux/beta tester - but never been a 'bro. :man_shrugging: ]


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #5

Oh they need their Mountain Dew and 5 hr. energy drinks too. They can not function without those.


(Brian) #6

Can’t really speak to “tech” stuff too much but will share just a bit from my primitive world.

I’m a musician, piano / keyboard player to be more specific. And sometimes gigs can go as long as 4 hours+ of solid play, not usually, but sometimes. I’m not typically in large groups, sometimes solo, sometimes with up to 3 other people, but usually not able to sit back and relax when I play like I might if in say a 10 or 15 piece band. I’m typically front and center for a large block of whatever time is called for.

That can be both physically and mentally challenging getting through something like that. When I first started out, I would have to be careful about hydration because the last thing I need to have happen is to start cramping while playing. That happened one time and people were worried that I was having a heart attack. No, I just needed water. Had to ask 3 or 4 times to get it but finally did, and the show resumed. I since will NOT do a performance without my trusty drink bag with me.

But there was more. I would start getting tired and a bit “foggy” as I played. An hour in, two hours in, it seemed to get harder and harder. I tried adding some soft drinks. Helped for 5 to 10 minutes, then it was worse. Tried adding some soft drinks with caffeine. Jacked up my nerves more than just the sugar but still the “crash” 10 minutes later. Just never seemed to get it figured out… until…

I finally decided to change the approach. Before a stage performance, I would have a heavy meat based meal, if not carnivore, keto. My favorite was somewhere between 1/2 pound and 1 pound of ground beef (usually hamburgers), and a couple of sunny side up eggs on top. Maybe some cheddar cheese if I felt like it. No veg, no bun. Not much for condiments. Water or coffee.

Outcome? I could go 3 or 4 or 5 hours and feel GREAT! And so long as I was careful about anything I ate or drank, I was just fine. Playing for events where there was food involved helped me to realize that even a single cookie or a few sips of punch was likely to have me plunging right back off that ledge I had tried so hard to avoid and end up tired and wondering if I could make it through. It is sometimes hard for people to understand but that’s my reality.

About the only thing I will take on stage with me other than just water is either seltzer water or club soda, I have no issue with either of those. (I’ve not tried coffee though I have sometimes had that with my hamburgers before the show without issue. I’m not one that drinks coffee all through the day though anyway, I’m a morning coffee person and then I’m done.)

Would that apply if I were in the tech world? I suspect it would. If I wanted to be on top of my game and sharp I’d be wanting to very much avoid the sugar and carbs and make sure I was well fed with good fats and protein. It works for music, I think it would work for other things, too.

Maybe TMI. Just sharing.


#7

I’d ask if you ran Arch, but you would have told us that already… possibly in a post about constipation :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Been running Linux since RH8! Meaning Desktop!


(Joey) #8

Of course I run Arch. Why, is there any other distro worth bleeding on? :computer:


(Ohio ) #9

The term “Tech Bro” was crafted by Peter Hotez, therefore, it’s not in my vernacular.


(BuckRimfire) #10

Yes, getting off the blood sugar/insulin roller coaster is one of the things I like about low-carb. My wife used to make a big pot of steel-cut oats cooked in half-and-half for breakfast sometimes. I’d add a little brown sugar and a lot of dark chocolate chips to mine. Three or four hours later I was ravenous for lunch. Now I make a saute/braise skillet meal with a few tiny tomatoes, a little onion, about a quarter pound of meat, some chicken broth, a half pound of some sort of cabbage/broccoli, maybe a bit of cream, and three or four eggs, and I’m good for eight hours (or 30+ hours, if fasting is planned). At dinner time I’m interested in food, but not desperate to eat. I only eat midday if I’m bored and find it convenient to eat a small bowl of low-carb nuts.

I never tried a >7 hour kayak trip while I was high carb, so I don’t actually know if I would feel better or worse, but it’s hard to believe that I could have felt better than I did after this nonsense:

For the first couple of days, I did not want to break that personal record, but within a week I started thinking about adding San Juan Island to the loop, raising the distance to about 73 miles. That was five and a half years ago and things have got in the way of trying it (mostly wife’s cancer; also some other less nasty life events). Whether being 10% older will stop me, I’m not sure, but there’s a small chance I will try to get in shape for an attempt this summer. If I do, I won’t be eating starch while trying it.