I need some input - Can't get into Ketosis

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(Neil ) #1

Hey Guys,

This is my first time on the blog and I’m trying to get myself back into a ketogenic state. My diet isn’t varied or anything special.

Currently, i’m only having 2 meals a day (never been one for breakfast)

I work in an office most of my day and my lunch usually consists of 8 Hot and Spicy chicken wings, 2 Small Chicken Thighs from the Tesco Hot Counter (I’ve checked the carb content and it’s about 4 grams of Carbs for the lot) and I have a small pack of Pork Scratchings.

For my evening meal after training (I do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu), I usually have a KG of chicken wings which is seasoned with chicken seasoning (14 grams of carbs per 150 grams - I use a teaspoon) garlic, salt and pepper and then coated in Franks Red Hot Sauce

I’m not dropping any weight and I’m not going to Ketosis and I’ve been doing this for a month.

I’m completely baffled as to why my body is not going back into Ketosis.

Can someone please share some insight? It would be really appreciated.

Thank you in advanced

(Allie) #2

Sounds like a lot of protein and not so much fat. The Tesco thighs contain barley which could be an issue (95% chicken 5% who knows what else - I had some yesterday), and most often hot & spicy stuff contains sugars. Pork scratchings also tend to contain things like wheat and sugar and are normally cooked in less than ideal oils. The canola oil in Franks isn’t really ideal.

But this aside, how are you testing to decide whether or not you’re in ketosis?

#3

I see more protein than anything, the carbs in seasonings aren’t great in most cases, not that you cant have them, but its more like getting them from sugar than when you go over from veggies. That combined with all the protein will get ya every time. Have you figured out what % of your intake is fats/protein/carbs?

(Allan L) #4

Are you using an online tool to track your macro’s? www.fatsecret.co.uk has all the UK brands. or MyFitnessPal

Watch out for hidden carbs.

Carbs are a limit, Protein as a goal, fat is a guide.

Have you calculated your protein requirements using an online calculator?

https://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/ or https://www.ruled.me/keto-calculator/

(Neil ) #5

I use Keto sticks to test and i;m barely getting trace amounts, I know this kind of diet works for me Ketosis as I did it last year and lost 25KG - I do get some fats here and there and do have chicken and veg when I can, I just struggle with free time as I’m out of the house for 14 hours a day.

Its just since Christmas where I overindulged a bit I just can’t get back into a keto state.

Do you think it could be too many calories that are affecting it?

(Allie) #6

Throw them away they’re useless.

As I said earlier, and others have also said, looks like too much protein, not enough fat, and too many hidden carbs. Just because it worked for you before doesn’t mean it’ll work now as our bodies change over time.

#7

So the good news is that your dietary consumption sounds consistent. The bad news is that you need to change that to something else because too many hidden carbs are coming in or there simply is too much protein and not enough fat.

Change things up.

(Neil ) #8

Thanks for the input guys, I’ll do what I can to change it up and add more fats and less protein. What do you suggest I use to measure keton levels if the sticks are useless?

Thank you

(Joel) #9

I haven’t read the comments yet but I’m guessing that everyone is telling you too much protein. Make sure you are using something like my fitness pal or other food tracker to track all your macros. Also exogenous ketone supplements work very well for me. You may want to try those out too. I also recommend you read the Ketogenic Bible if you really want to know the ins and outs of eating keto. I love the book and I refer to it all the time. Good Luck!

#10

The urine strips can help you determine if your body is producing an excess of ketones, as the strips are measuring ketones that the body is shedding. Keep in mind that reading in the morning will generally be much lower than readings at night. I use the strips to validate that my body has excess ketones, I’m not concerned with the actual reading.

Additional, optionally - you can use a meter that will measure ketones in your blood. Same things apply here - reading in the morning will be lower levels than readings in the evening. The real difference is that monitoring the blood ketones is a measurement of the ketones energy flowing in your body, not excess ketones being shredded by your kidneys through urine.

Ultimately - you can taste the acetone in your mouth as the chemical is shed by your body through your lungs. You’ll feel the difference.

(Empress of the Unexpected) #11

I use the Keto Mojo and am happy with it. It can also measure blood glucose as well with separate strips. I was getting nothing with the urine strips but the blood monitor shows me in ketosis. In my case, ketones peak around noon and drop in the evening. I have only experienced the Keto taste a handful of times, maybe it has something to do with how high the levels are?